Arent you all sick of the companies in Nova Scotia that post jobs on the job bank services!!! they offer you the least amount of money they can to work for them, and you know these compaines are making huge profits every year. then they wonder why the people they hire steal call in sick and just dont care about there performance…….
—sick of cheap asses
This article appears in Jan 7-13, 2010.
You can’t fucking spell. Go back to school and stop worrying about working for the time being.
Aren’t you all sick of the companies in Nova Scotia that post jobs on the job bank services? They offer the least amount of money they can to work for them, and you know these companies are making huge profits every year. They wonder why the people they hire still call in sick and don’t care about their performance…….
I feel your pain, but let me ask you this – how do you think they made the huge profits to begin with? Rich bastards don’t spend money, they hoard it at the expense of the actually hard working schmucks like us. The man has got us by the balls my friend, always has, always will. Best thing you can do is spit in their soup when you get a chance… and don’t think that doesn’t happen rich boys – the ruder and more demeaning you are to the “slave class” who serve you the more that shit is gonna go down.
Power to the people!
This IS a problem.
I hate the ones that ask for a zillion years of experience, in all known areas of technological expertise, and only offer a “junior” salary—plus secretarial, receptionist and bathroom-cleaning “responsibilities.”
Big mistake, as the higher-calibre applicants don’t bother to apply for these crappy “opportunities.”
Or maybe they try and pay people the least amount possible because they are tired of their employees calling in sick and stealing all the time while not really caring about their preformance. I think thats the problem these days with the younger generation , they all expect to make fat cash right away and if they dont then the employer sucks. hasn’t anybody heard of showing your worth. You have to start somewhere, why not take the job that may not pay so well at first and then prove to them that your worth more. the more bitches I read in hear the more self-entitled people seem these days.
Remember before unions…you had to buy your own shovels & picks to work in the mines !
Many places use introductory (low) wages to get people into a position & see if they will fit in, are capable to do the job etc.
Then after 3-6 months they are offered a full time position with better rates & perks etc.
So many people these days expect they should start at the top.
How about the job you’re looking at isn’t worth much to the company, it’s just some admin job?
As a member of the “younger generation” I take offense to you, Kirbul. I am a young professional who works hard and I take my job duties very seriously. At my current job, I have called in sick 3 days over the past 8 months, as I was very ill. I know that to get ahead, make better money and build my resume, I need to show my worth and no expect the sun while in the early years of my career. Keep your generalizations to yourself.
I agree with you, Tulip.
I am on the fence in this one. While I am young, when I started out I did not think I would make big money. However, once you’re in a professional job in the industry and you’re looking around, you will sometimes find that the jobs you thought would pay well actually pay shit all. I’ve got student loans to pay, I can’t really afford a pay cut even though I’d like to broaden my experience. However, the best way to find out about the good jobs is still just by talking to people. Find out who treats their employees well, who pays well, and who’s office is poorly managed. Even if you’re making a few bucks less, a good atmosphere will make going to work a lot easier, and the longer you’re in the industry the more people you’ll meet – making it easier to move up into a desirable position later in life. I can tell you one thing: sitting around complaining about “cheap asses” isn’t going to get you a higher wage anytime soon.
that’s how it works in the real world.too cheap ass employers,and people too fucking greedy,always wanting more.and the more they get,the more they spend on stupid things like,food,bills,and rent,whatever.it would be real refreshing to see an employer say to you,”i’m gonna pay you for what you are worth”. shit,can we do that to the politicos too,damn,why not? but in all seriousness,employees usually get the very dirty end of the stick.let’s face it,if half the people employed quit,the companies would go under io a week.cleaning,servers, you name the menial job. but you are absolutely right about cheap ass hirers,they got it and don’t want to give hardly any of it up.been there,done that.that’s why i am now self emloyed,in a business of one. f i don’t want to work,i suffer,and strikes are out too. it has advantages,and drawbacks as well.i live a fairly decent life,and have no worries about layoffs either.
Pretty easy one – don’t fuckin work for the cheap ass employers !!!!!
tulip,believe it or not,most people do steal shit,even if only a fucking pen or pencil.i have even known of a v.p. that ripped off a lot of shit,he finally got nailed.total dollar value of stuff he took over a 5 year period,less than a hundred bucks,job,pay,honor,and security,down the tubes. but yet,polititions get away with a zillion times more than this,and still they are in office,go figure.
now here’s a reason to earn a degree if I’ve ever heard one!
Clue: posting jobs on the Canada Job Board costs the employer ZERO. That’s EXACTLY what they want to INVEST into the recruitment of their employees so they’re not too picky fishing in the biggest pond of all… that of the inexperienced and lacking education. You’re “a dime a dozen”.
Degrees don’t guarantee good jobs . Plenty people make more without degrees then they do with one .
Hear, hear!
The jobbank is a HORRIBLE place to look for employment, especially if you’re looking for a ‘professional’ job. Most professional jobs can be found through recruitment agencies, job placement agencies and career beacon. Only a VERY small number of jobs are ever posted, especially on the internet.
Your best bet, OP is to cold call places you’d like to work and send in a resume. An information interview request wouldn’t hurt — you call the employer you’d like to work for and ask for 15 minutes of their time to ask questions about their industry/field. Then slip them a resume on your way out with your card and you have a face/person to a resume in that person’s mind. Kind of like a way to get an interview without waiting for one to come to you. And it’s human nature to want to talk about one’s self, so you’d likely get more than a few positive responses to your request for a meeting. It also shows you’re enthusiastic and a “go getter” and actually interested in their field.
And *yes* I’m in the HR field 🙂
Second and third that !!
And even more, Weedhog, with degrees, make more than those without.
Just sayin’ 😉
I’m not directing this at you, WH, but it really frosts my cupcakes when those without degrees shit on the fact that someone DOES have a degree (or two, or three) in order to make themselves feel better. I worked fucking hard for the two and a half I currently have so stfu, and this degree-shitting-by-the-undegree’d trend is pathetic and annoying.
kitty… sometimes I wuv u a ho bunch
I hear what your saying PT – and agree . I have Two masteries in two skilled trades. So basically I have a degree if you want to say that . I agree with university because someone has to design the buildings us tradesman have to build . Guess what i meant was this : lets take a dude with grade 6 and 10,000 cash. Now this dude spends his money on two 2 ton dumptrucks . He knocks on doors and rips down sheds and fences and basically make 300-600 a day making and hauling garbage to the dump . Now come winter – he adds a salter and a plow to those trucks …. see where i’m getting at? . I have a friend up in calgary here that has virtually no education formally – and he started with one truck . He now has i think about 20 of them that hauls shit to landfills – clean fills and the dump – and added roll off bins to his arsenal . Thats what I was getting at – I wouldn’t shit on anyones education because we need all sorts of professions – its nice when i get busted up in a work accident – someone took the time to go through 6 years university to fix all my busted up shit .
Ps PK i wasn’t “degree shitting ” I just stated that you don’t need a degree to make good money – that was it – wasn’t trying to diss uni students .
Kirbul does make a point, tulip. There’s LOTS of pretentious little Haligonians who think they’re worth more than the minimum wage they’re earning. I’ve met people in this city with barely a grade 12 who think they deserve to make as much as a CEO does just because they’re themselves.
I’m a member of this “younger generation” also but understand that I have to get my feet wet before I can walk in the big boys’ shoes. Shit, look at make-up artists for example. The world doesn’t care that you did a $2000 course at some “beauty school” and maybe worked a couple weeks as a Mary Kay rep, girly.
The cost of a university degree is about the same as what you’ll pay for an SUV. The difference between having a degree and not having one is the difference between owning that SUV while you’re still young enough to pick up women in it and not being able to afford that same SUV before retirement.
Don’t get me wrong, Bill Gates dropped out of university and there are many success stories that don’t involve a costly education but they comprise less than 1% of the population who opt out of a degree.
Finally, hog, on the day you chose to NOT obtain secondary education were your hands soft? I’ll bet they’re not today. The trades are hard but honest work and some are rewarded well. Couple that with a business degree and what do you have? A blue collar?
Don’t want a “blue collar job ” and my hrnds since being young have never been soft . I always built shit with uncles and my dad – working and helping them in their trades. Thats how i choose my career in trades . I prefer to build stuff then to sit on my ass . Not going to waste time in school so i can make the same money sitting on my ass . I don;t like sitting on my ass.
Umm three years spread across college is secondary education .
Who would want to pick up hoes in an SUV? I’ll sooner roll with hog in his Acura or buy a Lexus or Benz of my own. I like Germans. Maybe with a Benz I can find me a nice Hebrew girl and settle down.
We can go Milf and coug hunting with Q for your sugar mom fat haha !!!!
Sugar mom would be nice. If it were kay, the term would be a “sour milk mama” =D
hey fat we all know Kay rides the “loser cruiser ” – ( bus ) she thinks it a SUV – but thats what happens when you ingest to much cocaine – you get delusional ! to just quantify that statement lets cut and paste a real recent Kay post —
Frosty, we differ here. I’ve had a lot of experience with cocaine and when I add it up it’s never worth “it”.
But i finally do now realise why shes a retard – and i’m glad she actually made us bump hip to her problem . I feel sorry for the dried up cokewhore now – – fat – you’d be lucky to get dust outta that – it sniffed up all its money – and usues the computer in the back of mc donalds where shes the manager with her peon employees – now we have to firgure out whick mc d’s
YOU SUCK. You win. You SHEEP are going to get just what you asked for. Let’s play puppet you fucking ASSHOLES.
Buahahahahah! Awww I think you made her angry Hog…better watch out, she might tell one of her friends in power!
kay’s going to tell the Bilderberg Group on us, y’all!
Hey…this is exactly what she is doing RIGHT NOW:
http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/weirdo_put.…
Maybe she’s going to get Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff to beat us up.
thats better than the last one…wlyb=der
I am not sure what wlyb means…lol!
I’ve been researching this for a while. People who earn the highest pay include those who:
• Are willing to relocate or travel extensively for work—sometimes on extremely short notice, and often to very undesirable places. (If you think Fort McMurray is bad, it is paradise compared to many other places in the world.)
• Take on hazardous assignments—ie working with dangerous equipment or toxic materials
• Work in the hard sciences—and within the sciences, the more math-oriented your field, the higher the pay
• Become very good at something extremely important that is very difficult to do, ie brain surgery
• Take jobs requiring greater financial risk
• Take on enormous, life-and-death levels of responsibility
• Work in unpleasant environments (e.g. prisons or coal mines) or work outside in extreme weather conditions (at the so-called “low-skilled” levels, a bicycle courier earns more than a receptionist for the very reason that one is indoor work and one is outdoor work.)
• Do jobs that other people really don’t want to do.
• Sacrifice a great deal of personal and family time.
The formal educational path one chooses after high school is only a starting point.
All careers require some amount of continuous learning if a person wants to their increase knowledge and income level.
Also, any endeavor demands commitment, drive and ambition if a person wants to stand out from the thousands of other people doing the same kind of work.
who loves ya baby…it’s from kojak but no lollipops
Nicely put oceanlady – thats about sums up alot of thing with two or less years university and or college . Der – WTF did you actually find Kays old mans on lines picture or is that actually her – i’m thinking the latter . I did make her angry – I called the liar on a couple things directly from this days posts she made – it sucks when your caught .People in power after me – wow I didn’t know Mac Donalds employees avtually HAD power – new to me – but I will step lightly in case someone spits in my big mac . Fat damn dude – you friggin make me laugh – awesome man – haha – A nice piece of hash and a gram ofstank dank weed for you brother !!!
Opps I meant rubyjane with the nicely put – sorry – it’s that joint after work thing – hahahahahaha!
Don’t worry, WH: I didn’t think you were degree shitting, I was just saying in general. I know a few people irl who bitch about people with degrees all the time yet their HS marks were so bad they couldn’t even get into university and have a shit ass job they hate and seem to think bitching about how getting a degree IS a waste of time is a constructive use of their time. heh.
I get you PK ! And i fully understand what your saying . Just as i get pissed people calling tradesman down because we only spent one or two years in college with our grade 10- 12 . Yet we’re the most constantly learning people in some instances and some of the most well paid . I suspect your younger then alot of us bitchers PK – so fuck what people say and go rule the world – or atleast be the bomb in what you are going to be after school !! That makes YOU the better one and the most deserved to pee down hill on the ones that are jibbing the degreed ones !!!PS if you ever build a house – call me for the wood and frame work and all the block work – I’ll give you a deal !! HAHA!
Trades”people” can make shit tons of cash and actually have to LEARN the trade — a lot have to do long ass apprenticeships, and after two years or so after HS it usually works out to as long as someone in university. Doing a trade takes as much learning as it does to learn how to write a paper or business plan. Coming from a family who’s parents do skilled trades, it irks me probably just as much as it does you, when those who are “educated” snub their noses at those in the trades. There’s A LOT of academic snobbery out there, and that pisses me off as well. Why can’t we just all get along? *sniff*
It’s usually the people who did fuck all after high school who are bitter now that the full time job their HS education got them isn’t so cool anymore now that their university educated HS friends are out getting decently paid jobs and they’re still working min wage or close to it shit jobs.
…as for my age, I’m a lot older than you might think. I just look young for my age 😛
I work in a data entry company where half of the employees are university degree holding 25-30 year olds who are all in massive debt and attempting to survive on $10 while paying that debt. The other half are 40-60 year old married women, most of whom don’t have high school educations, who’ve been working there so long they are getting $20-$25 an hour, and basically spend all their time bitching about not having enough benefits, time off, or how the managers insulted them. The job is absolutely mindless but they treat it like they’re curing cancer. The younger people just want out and decent jobs but there is absolutely nothing available. One woman I work with has two degrees in human resources and can’t find a job in that field.
Good point PK – I quess all I can say About apprenticeships is that during mine ( I did 8 years combined over the years) and anyone elses – atleast they’re working in their trade and getting decent money while” houring up” they’re masters . What I find absurd and unfair with the degree careers – is that poor assed students that put in that same 8 years in school have to ( not all I understand that ) work crap jobs in the most part totally unrelated . School demands all they’re time so they have no time for a 8 hour a day job and have to serve – pump gas – stock sobeys selves at night . To me – thats fucking wrong .I know some courses in university also engage students in (co op } work related .to their field but i doubt its payable at graduate rates ? Or am I wrong – I’m just quessing . Listen – I am way older then anyone may think – and i see people I went to school with still working at a warehouse – only now they are the floor manager with a 2 dollar wage increase. And they always ask about how i got up so far being a pothead with only college spread over three years . My oldest daughter whos 23 – is going into electrition courses . She worked alot of my crews as a laborer before she decided to take a trade . I never pushed that kid to anything and gave her time to consider her choices. I just offered her work and she likes what we do .She also likes the two years only of college with one being considered 1st year apprenticeship where she can work and make 20 bucks an hour part time while in school as well as ” houring up”. But the snobbery – yea that blows I don’t like it – and usually the snobby ones are just pissed because trades are making more cash then them – thats all . I tell people like that – you wouldn’t have a house or office if it weren’t for us – by the way -” sign here” as they watch two month of they’re wage go into my pocket . Anyways good luck PK in what your about to become and do it like a rock star !!!!
I quit highschool & went to work.
My other brother went to college, & has 2 masters degrees.
The joke around our family is my brother has all the education…& I’ve got all the money.
I learned really quickly in the real world if you want to get anywhere fast…you won’t get there working for yourself. Which is why I went in business, first as a partnership to help get established & then in business for myself , while also being in another business as a partnership. You can all spew your sanctimonious BS about education that you wish, to make yourselves happy about the 3,5,7, 9 years you may have spent getting educated, while you were doing that I was building a business(s) paying off my mortgage & paying into my retirement plan…I may not have much education, but how many of you work when you want, rarely ‘have to work because of a commitment’ , & decide to work or not when you want ?
How many of you get 3 months a year vacation ?
Yeah, thought so…I’ll keep doing things my way thanks you keep your precious education…I think I’ll pop down to Wolville this week & have someone with a university degree serve me my coffee 🙂
NICE a Kojac reference; I miss the days when leading actorsactresses weren’t plastic!
How many people, university-educated or not, do you really think have the work flexibility and income you do More? You’re the exception, not the rule. Congratulations on your success though.
Miles, I know more than a few people in business who are doing as well or better than I.
I’m not against education, that’s crazy…how would we have doctor’s with out higher education. But you know what we don’t need IMO, more people with theology degrees, more people with multiple degrees in Islamic studies. Tell me again how being an English major is going to get you into a good paying job when you get out of University ?
There are many trades out there that provide people with a really high standard of life. IMO too many academics look down their noses at those of us who have become successful on our own merits.
I judge how successful I am, not by how much I’ve saved or how little I owe…but by how much time I have for myself. Being able to for the most part , do what I want when I want, is a key to happiness.
Trying to become wealthier, by devoting all of yourself to your work for a payoff later in life ,for me, defeats the purpose! Do both, enjoy life now, & work to be comfortable now & in the future. Sure the early years are a full time hump… but try to never let it become all consuming…I’m not educated enough to be able to tell you who said “take time to stop…& smell the roses”, but I know they’re right.
Weedhog: after getting two and a half degrees, my father had this little gem of advice for me: “you should’ve taken a trade! Plumbers make assloads of money! You could’ve been out and working with little debt years ago!”
Gee. Thanks, dad! 😛
Also: I had no idea you were old enough to have a 23 year old, WH. I figured you were closer to my age, and unless 5 year olds can get knocked up… 😛
PK, it seems they can! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina
I must have missed something in the earlier part of the discussion, as Kay seems to have picked up all her toys and gone home…but the abuse wasn’t any more abusive than usual.
Yeah, I heard about that…she wouldn’t name the father. It’s pretty freaking creepy, actually.
Thats the only difference from trades to university degrees PK – just the time spent in school . Any trade or degree is nobel enough for me and i admire people with the tenacity to stick out them many years !!! I too PK look way younger then I really am . It must have been the fresh air and hard work haha !!!
More – i like how you put it . That is a good way to look at it . I think I have a good balance of work and personal time . I almost always only work from 8 am to 6 pm max and give myself the weekends off . Although somedays I put in 14-15 hour days during the week ( not often ) but that just gives me a couple extra days during the coming weeks to take off and enjoy life around me while having the financial thing intact .
Ummm … make-up artists can make up to $100 a day starting out depending on their schooling, location and job. And FYI any reputable make-up school would cost WELL over $2000 – so don’t go shitting on our pretty make up friends. Their trade is just as valuable as anything you would see at a community college with lots of room for advancement in the field if they work hard and have real talent.
I kinda failed to see where someone shitted ( for the english police – shat) on the make up artists trade. I say as long as you have a job doing whatever is fine – I just don’t want someone shaking their fuckin timmies cup in my face for change . By this i mean – whatever you do – supportting yourself is the key .
I’m really lucky to have seen both sides of the coin. I spent 5 years as a labourer, and I’d have to admit, sometimes that was the best job I ever had. It was good, honest, hard work and I was paid fairly for what I was doing. Problem was; there was no room for advancement. Become a foreman (or any other supervisory role) or stay in the mud with the other peons, just for a minimal pay increase. Then I decided to get into something that could take me a bit further, which was banking. Believe me, the only way you get into banking is start as a teller and sell credit cards like a madman. Then to get into personal banking, you need to have at least a part of a university education, and your mutual funds education and license. Even though I do not have a full university education (and believe me; it’s not that hard to get into university these days. Christ, when I went to Dal in 2000 the minimum average for entry was 65%) I am able to get a full time job in a “white collar” field. That said, to go any further, I need at least a commerce degree and/or a Personal Financial Planner designation, which is a year long course. Finally, I need a BMA to get into managerial levels. White collar professional jobs need significant education and work. Finally, to pay. In both fields, as a labourer, I made more money than I was making as a teller. However, when I switched to personal banking, my pay was based on commission, so my performance was entirely based upon my performance. So if I didn’t sell, I didn’t get paid. At first, I wished I had been in that low-paying position.
I guess my point in all of this is this; you get paid for what you do. If you tough it out, even entry level jobs can turn out to be something better, or if you stay in one position long enough, you get raises so that you at least stay above inflation (usually better).
I’d like to work for Kay, it would be like the woman who worked as assistant to the boss lady in Absolutely Fabulous (Edwina?)
Basil…while I think your depiction is entirely hilarious, I do not believe working for kay would be like that at all. I am sure it would be like being Satan’s assistant and you get the same treatment as Saddam Hussein did in South Park (pineapples up the a$$).
Basil and der – that shit is hilarious !!! But I wonder why you two want to sling big mac and fries at Mc Donalds for !!! Actually she might manage a needs store – sorry .
maybe she’s the original Mary KAY? some prune faced wrinkly old minge
Oh I wouldn’t…I would rather be hung from my testicles and sprayed with a concoction of boiling tabaso sauce and razor blades.
I once worked a Mcjob (it was actually Subway) for a few months in Whitehorse while I was “reassessing my commitment to highschool”…this was a long time ago now (90’s). I would rather enlist with the American Military than work at McD’s or another similar establishment. When I left the Yukon and came back to Hali I had an entirely new perspective on “effort and it’s direct effect on the quality of life”.
I hear you on that Der . I almost always had a good perspective on work ad what I wanted to do _ but again _ I had my crap jobs outside my field . I think i would rather take a quater walk across the mac donald bridge and jump – of course aiming for the rocks under the center span . I won’t even eat their shit – never mind sling it . I’d rather shake a timmies cup !!!