This one has been in the works for years. Bayer’s Lake is undoubtedly the least friendly place for pedestrians that I have seen in HRM. First off, there’s a lack of sidewalks. They are only on one side of the street, the other side has corners at the lights and the rest is pavement and lawn. Should you want to venture away from those corners you have to walk on the pavement with the cars or on the lawn (which is currently occupied by two feet of dirty snow). Second, some people drive like there are no other cars or pedestrians around. They swerve around the speed bump narrowly avoiding other cars and pedestrians and they drive crazy fast in the non-speed-bumped sections (to be fair, most do stop in the crosswalks near the shops, most). Third, there should be more crosswalks on Bayer’s Lake Road. There is, I think, three, one at the beginning, one in the middle and one at the end. While there are “unmarked crosswalks”, people seldom stop to let people through. There should be some sort of a light there that maybe could be pedestrian activated to turn red at certain intervals, like the intersection on Quinpool where a certain organic store is. And last but certainly not least is the 52. It’s always late, if it shows up at all that is. Granted it doesn’t have a whole lot to do with Bayer’s Lake per say, it does add to the frustration of going there. —Fed up but not enough to take three buses to go to Dartmouth Crossing
This article appears in Jan 13-19, 2011.
I agree with this bitch 100%.
I hope the Russkies have at least one SS-18 left that’s still targeted on that shithole – and I hope that Inaccessible Nova Scotia is ground fucking zero.
I agree. Bayers lake sucks, the only place worse is Dartmouth crossing.
i do believe they call it a business park, not a city or town street or road. do you really think a lot of people walk there? they either drive, or take a bus. hence there is no need for sidewalks. think on it a bit o.p., why have sidewalks, if there is no one to use them, due to drive in, park, get out, go to store of choice, walk out, get in car, go where ever. so where the fuck do the sidewalks enter the equation?
Bayer’s Lake sucks whether you’re a driver or a pedestrian. That place is maddening.
LS, to be fair though, if bus there to go to staples or pet store or paderno…
and then walmart/zellers/futureshop/winners/costco, what, do you wait for a bus to take you across the street?
the way it’s set up is really not directed for pedestrians at all, despite offering the 52.
don’t use p— u—— go to g—–
How the fuck are you going to carry a big screen tv or a years worth of beef jerky home anyways?
…or a kayak filled with m and m’s
LIFE SUCKS, concerning your post. I get the bus to bayers lake all the time because i’m poor as shit to get a car, if you want to get off the bus to say go to bulkbarn, but you have shopping to do at walmart, why would you get off the bus to get back on the bus to go all the way round when its just across the road? The OP is right, no one should be forced to dodge the traffic or walk up that icey snow slope next to the liquor store.
There’s sidewalks in Bayer’s Lake?
Even though it’s a business park, its set-up still sucks. No ped-ways, no shuttle service, roads need extra lanes, and only 2 ways in & out. Dartmouth Crossing, you need a car.
OP here; Indeed I need a car but between wages and the cost of living, I rather enjoy life a little and suffer on the bus than have a car and not be able to afford going anywhere.
It is a business park yes, but because of that there are probably a few thousand workers in the area. Lunch break comes and I’m sure not every kid working at sub-way or the theatre can afford a car to sit in traffic to get to where they need to get to.
Business parks separates people from work and business. I just hate urban sprawl and the dependencies on car due to city planning far too much to continue this rant. I could write a book but the last 500 pages would just be all caps and far too belligerent for publishing.
Bayers Lake was never meant for pedestrians. Buses were never suppose to have a route in that area originally. It was a business park that had Price Club and Kent. Then the Gov’t offered the land so cheap that other big box stores decided to join suit. The buses started out there more for employees to get back and forth. You want convenience then go to a shopping mall. That’s what they were made for.
Carsand Mosher isn’t in the mall. Access Nova Scotia isn’t in the mall. Accessibly should not be limited to certain parts of the area, secluding anything for cars only makes no sense.
LS, buses are for walkers. Saying that they don’t need sidewalks because they have buses is like saying they don’t need a gangplank cause they got a ship. They come hand in hand.
It’s not that I’m looking for convenience, I just rather not be splattered all over the road or on those rocks from trying to cross the road or trying to climb the hill..
And good comment aliar, I laughed at the gangplank comment.
I wonder if they would have thought more and made a ‘lower level’ underground that connects all the bloody stores…. then any store would be an access point to the ‘mall’ below the street where everyone could merrily walk wherever they need.
hindsight is 20/20 I suppose… were that even feasible.
Any project is feasible. We’ve built the pyramids and the great wall (ignore possible aliens for now).
These days a project is only feasible if the land owner will make money. Someone made a shit ton of money at Bayer’s Lake.
I would love more underground cityscapes.
“hindsight is 20/20”- then why didn’t they learn from that when building Dartmouth Crossing? Sure, it’s better than Bayers Lake, but only marginally. At least they built that little section that looks like a downtown streetscape that’s walkable. Trouble is, if you want to go to any of the other areas, and you don’t have a car to hop in and out of, be prepared to walk on the roadways a lot. They have sidewalks, but they end in the stupidest places. And Walmart, fuck, that’s directly across from the bus stop, but there’s no safe place to walk from the stop to that store. You end up walking in the roadways of the car entrances. In winter, when it snows, that’s really unsafe. The very reason why I stay away from there this time of year.
The city did not make a shit load of money. They seriously gave the land away to bring Price Club and stores like that here. They had no idea it was going to get as big as it did. I’m not sure if they are making good money on property tax because they gave them all a lot of tax cuts too. It’s what needed to be done to get them here I guess. I’m sure they’re making lots in GST & HST.
tee – the whole idea of places like these, is convenience. A decent shuttle service with a dedicated lane would cure most ills.
Maybe it’ll take a couple of lawsuits, eventualy something will be done.
Oh I’m not saying a shuttle wouldn’t be nice, I’d be a pretty happy camper to get that but at this point, I’d be happy with side walks going up the hill, or even stairs on the hill by the liquor store.
this is insanity… as RC suggested, all the peds want is a fucking mall 28 stories high with all the big box stores per floor.
I think we can all agree that ain’t going to happen ’round here so get used to the shitty alternative… a sprawled out, inconceivable mess of traffic, parking, stores, and as minimal roadways as possible.
Besides the fact that it’s a nightmare if you want to go shopping there, what if you work there? I worked there for a bit a few years ago, taking metro transit in and out and it was horrible. The 52 was almost always late getting there and late leaving. If you work in one of the big box stores and want to eat, I hope you have a long lunch if you’re walking. Thank god I didn’t have to work there very long, but I still cringe when I need to go to get pet food at Global (also which you can’t get in a mall) because it closes early so I have to go in rush hour traffic after work. And don’t even suggest to go on the weekend, I avoid BL like the plague on Saturdays.
I’m not suggesting we start excavating for a mega-mall all I want are a few minimal fixes that would make life easier for when you do want to go to stores that aren’t in the mall (Staples, Future Shop, Bulk Barn, Home Sense, Spartan, and those are just a few off the top of my head) and for those who work there (which I have too and it is a nightmare).
Those stores choose areas that are not accessible for the public. Stop shopping at them and they will move to more convenient locations or shut down. They are not losing any business because of where they are at and they’re paying less property taxes as well as no mall fees, and sidewalk snow removal fees, and all that crap. Staples has 6 locations in the HRM, there’s a homesense in Mic Mac Mall, Bulk barn has 3 locations, future shop has 3 HRM locations, Spartan – go to the one in Dartmouth. Problem solved.
Is all I want is and IKEA. They can put it anywhere within an hour of the HRM and I people will flock from all over.
Most of those locations are in Dartmouth, I know they exist, they’re just harder to get to hence signing the bitch with “fed up but not enough to take three buses to go to Dartmouth Crossing”. As for the ones that are in Halifax well the ones in Bayer’s Lake are closer so yet again, it makes more sense to go there. And an Ikea would be nice : )
i almost got lost going to “access” ns. luckily i had a navigator
If the city didn’t make money off of it then the box stores saved that money.
Getting back to the original bitch, the city is much more likely to put in a sidewalk than a business ever is. So, I would rather the city to have made money off this so “fed up” and others like him/her don’t get sloshed and wet.
And I will agree, if you want something from a specific store then get out there or live without it. But I will never forgive Access Nova Scotia for being put in an inaccessible place.
IIRC, it wasn’t exactly Access NS’ choice to leave their previous location.
I didn’t realize they closed their Mumford location to move out there. I thought they were expanding and making more locations. That was an asshole move I agree.
it’s next to the rona…i have a 25 yr. old ikea bed frame, i’ve replaced the mattress but otherwise it’s still good
I hate Bayers Lake.
as i said before, it’s a fucking business park. meaning that you or i have business to do, we go there. if you just want to shop, then there a zillion rip off places closer to suck you in and take your cash.
as fer the sidewalks again., most people will either drive or take a bus. sidewalks will cost you more money in taxes, thus passed along to a uyer.
as to access n.s., yeah, right, how’s that going for you? i would rather drive to truro for service, as i do know some who did just that.
and i see timmy’s in fairview on dutch illage has closed down, oh we is me. what is this world coming to?
yeah, it’s out where the old Lane Furniture store used to inhabit.
It is nicer than where they were, though the 1 used to go there so it was instantly accessible by most of the core…
I’ll agree they fucked that up.
I want IKEA to come BACK!
They were here a while ago… from stories I was told.
Gimme cheap crap that collapses into a shoebox any day!
I’m sure they have a fucking bureau that fits into a lunchbox for transport.
A Tim Horton’s closed? Is there a skating oval in Hell now too?
Well to be fair, the one that closed didn’t have a drive through, congested local traffic, and has a shitty parking lot.
Sad to see that even after it was closed, the ever-tempting plasma tv in the menu board was still showing doughnuts getting layered with icing for days…
zzz, that is just fucking torture to me. all them loverly donies and not one of my few teeth in them, pure fucking hell. oh the agony of it all. the nearest fix now is up to clayton park, oh my fuck, talk about fucked up parking lots. that’s the one they should have closed dowbn.
you pull in the drive thru, and halk your car hanging out in roadway. i’m very surprised that there have been no majo accidents there. guess i will have to round up my own private timmies baker now, damn it?
Ikea was here back in the day, zZz. Back in the 80s. It was where the atlantic wholesalers building is in burnside. I remember they had a bitchin’ ball room our parents would stick us in when they’d go there. I effing loved that place. But I don’t think NS had the market for it back then. Now? definitely, but back then, no.
I remember when there were NO sidewalks in BLIP. That’s only a new thing in the past few years. You certainly still take your life in your hands when you walk around up there, though. Especially if you get off on the kent/A&W side of the street and cross over to the superstore or costco/walmart. So, as lazy as it sounds, if it’s winter and I can’t get through behind costco when I walk up because of snow banks, I’ll stay on the 52 and go all the way around so I can get off right in the parking lot.
What sucks though, is when it’s super busy on chain lake and traffic’s backed up on lacewood up to parkland and you don’t realize it until you pass the street before parkland so you have to wait in the shitty traffic forever and you can SEE your apartment. That sucks shit. Doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it’s annoying.
I usually walk up though, when there’s no snow banks and go up behind costco if I’m going to one of the big box stores there. If I have to bus it up to access NS for any reason I’ll just zip on the 52 or 21 (21 goes right by it, guys and is relatively on time). The 52 can seriously gargle my [non existent] balls, as one poster so eloquently put a few bitches ago 🙂
Life Sucks,
Relax dude, what are you losing your shit over?
There’s a Tims in the Esso at the bottom of the hill.
I agree that both areas are not pedestrian friendly, but they are designed for shoppers with cars……have a car, load it up with shit you buy, and lug it away. If you don’t like the area, you have other options, such as malls (you won’t find cars driving inside MicMacMall, or HalifaxShoppingCentre), or shop online.
according to ikea, our population is not large enough. they like to setup shop in areas of a million or more bags of skin…you have a lovely hand zZz
At least they’re always trying to improve BLP – I agree it was a disaster when it was first built, but they do seem to be trying to improve things.
They make it predestrian unfriendly so the light fingered scumbags have a hard time making a run for it when they boost stuff.
LS – speaking of closures, what in all that’s holy happened to DQ on the corner of SGR, what the frig am I going to do for an ice cream on a sunny day?
PG that’s because there’s a better chance of suckers to buy their cheap looking and overpriced furniture.
some of their stuff is crap but not all of it http://wulle.se/wordpress/images/SimpsonsI…
Bayers Lake isn’t designed around pedestrians. It is a business park that you drive to, even the city buses go along the store fronts (barring the 21).
I agree with you about some of the insane drivers tho. Some people are in such a hurry to get from store to store that they don’t look around first and cut people off, nearly causing accidents, yet those same people are the first to whine and bitch or honk when someone does it to them.
I do also agree that there shouldn’t be any “unmarked crosswalks” in a place that busy with cars so lights would be useful.
and for bus 52 – It is probably the single longest bus route (other than the 80 or one or two of the dartmouth ones) as it is about an hour or more from end to end so it is not inconceivable that it would be late more often that not as a lot can get in the way during that long of a time.
I agree 100% with this bitch.
Bayers Lake is a pedestrian hell. Dartmouth Crossing, too. These places represent a lot of what has been wrong with urban planning for decades, or more correctly, they are a symptom of flawed thinking about urban planning.
These business parks are hell on earth to me. It’s totally backwards that the city did not learn from the failure of Bayers Lake before they approved of Dartmouth Crossing and Bedford Common (still under construction).
Cut urban sprawl and force these developers to invest in downtown and existing neighbourhoods.
I only hated Bayers Lake in the winter… that was a pain in the rear. In the summer I loved it… like a big mall with no roof! 😀 I’d walk there, shop… leaving the place I had to get the moststuff at until the end, then took a bus home. But, then I always try to look on the bright side of life!
That being said, I’m a bit of a freak. I can certainly see how poorly it’s planned and needless to say, for those with transportation/mobility issues… yes, hell indeed.
well look on the bright side target has bought zellers j/k
….and Rosie doesn’t work on Saturday either. I’m starting to feel like my avatar 🙂
Morn all.
hey hugo, i think she works t-f 7.30 onward. sue the crow just caught a mouse…fresh meat over peanuts. rawk
Actually Cats and Kittens, due to monetary issues and slashed hours, i work three jobs. One is t-f 7:30-3:30, the other is 4-8 wed, thurs, friday and certain hours on Sat./Sun. The other is an on-call dealie that I work whenever they call.
Thus, for now Rosie only has Monday off!
Mornin’ Hugo!
Mornin’ Painey!
Mornin’ LS!
Mornin’ Ivan!
Mornin’ TTFN!
Mornin’ PK!
Mornin’ Cubby!
Mornin’ Annette!
don’t forget our monsieur from montreal^^i hope to see you on the 20th of feb. rosie
Doesn’t IKEA have catalogue/shipping service for us folks living in the boonies? Of course, it’s not the same as actually being in the store.
Pain-sis, read your message, but I’ve been burning my candle at both ends for the last week. Finally found a few moments to respond. Glad you finished the book. Hoping to have time soon to do some reading. I don’t want to borrow it until it can do more than sit around collecting dust:)
the shipping rates are high chickpea. the book is in the back of my rusty auto awaiting a reader
Pick me! What are we reading again?
ooh books, steve king-full dark no stars. i also have many books t’home and at the shoppe
Oooohhhh, may I please borrow some? i haven’t read a new book in eight months! Re-reading the stuff i have…. ohhhh, new reads! >sigh<
Excellent, excellent. Spread the Book Love, my evil minions.
Moo hoo haa haaaaaaa!
Ivan, you have no idea. I still have 15 boxes of books at Seaman Stupid’s house… with titles like: Cherry Ames: Army Nurse, Boy Scout Signal, The Black Rose… all ancient tomes that I have collected over the years. Someone is trying to get me into the eReader thingys, but i can’t wrap my wee head around NOT holding the book in my hand and turning the pages.
“The devil ‘imself is at control’s of them e-readers. You better ‘old fast.”
Half my collection is in boxes in the storage locker at my dacha. Just waiting for the wife to leave me and the cat to die(or vice versa) so I can become “Crazy old book hoarder dude”
*narf* >; )
Ahhh Ivan! Such a romantic! My problem is not one of space, but logistics: How to remove said boxes from SS’s domicile without actually having to deal with him… oh and where to get the loan of a free truck. ;D
I’m sure there’s a few folks on here who could help you – just for the sheer hell-raising devilment. Not naming any names, of course *coughs* Lifesucks, lifesucks.
Yeah, did i mention I live in Windsor and SS lives in H-fax?
Time it for the summer months and you may just get a ride in The Lincoln. >; )
Woof Woof, Riley & Monty. Hey, what do you and Painey have planned for the 20th?
OC — Ikea does ship, but the shipping rates are INSANE. Especially given the fact that they apparently have a storage warehouse in halifax somewhere.
And of course where do you think the product enters Canada? Halifax, no doubt. *shakeshead*
doggie expo commander. i’ll bring you a poster^^
Hella Kule – I got a Xmas present for you – a tad belated , mmm that beer was good.
Ivan, is it a wooden bottle opener in the shape of a pee-pee? Painey will love it!
now don’t be giving away the family heirlooms^^^ come by the shop rosie i’ll give you some books
LMFAO – Not sure what happened to that particular objet d’art. We took turns posing with it behind the backs of people standing on our window ledges during the Parade of Unquenchable Despair – but those files are sealed until 2060.
On their catalogue it says free shipping with a purchase over $75 – but that’s bull. Here’s their real shipping costs for NS bound.
Order Weight Shipping Cost
5 kg $ 31.13
10 kg $ 33.33
20 kg $ 37.73
50 kg $ 50.93
100 kg $ 72.93
We really need one. Not gonna happen. And Target won’t have the kind of prices they do in the US. crappy.
RC – if you want top quality, handmade furnature, at great prices, check out the Mennonites. Talk about a work ethic 🙂
Thank god for Dartmouth Crossing its easier for vehicles and pedestrians far better than Bayers Lake and even Burnside
They need to put more cross walks in by the theater. Dartmouth Crossings has a shitload of crosswalks.
hey guys! i’m a journalism student at King’s College and I’m actually writing an article on this issue for my class, i’d love to be able to talk to someone who feels that bayers lake would benefit from crosswalks! message me back here if you would be able to asnwer a few questions for me!
THANKS!
good grief…what made you think we might be useful?
Made me smile pg ☺
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I agree walking in Bayer’s Lake is fucking pissy! However I remind myself that if I want to walk in Dartmouth Crossing, its fucking well spaced out that I loose a pound or two getting around. I find Bayer’s Lake much more closer knit than Dartmouth. But walking and sidewalks need to improve. I don’t think they thought that anyone would ever walk there. Silly city planners. trix are for kids!
Interesting looking milk bone.
It could use a hampster trail like downtown has…
though I doubt there’s enough pedestrian traffic to warrant one, unless you made a bus terminal at the start of it so the 52 could just get to the beginning of chain lake and spin around rather than taking the long loop.
Those out in the back businesses would be eff’d though.
Needs of the many overrules yet again.
grace and hugo, both your bones are tres appealing. Scree!
looks like the pussy is getting horny.
I personally find there’s already enough sexual undertones (or flat-out in-your-facedness) in everyday society that to use one as an avatar is… well… retarded and annoying.
You have a chance to represent yourself as anything you choose and you select the same ‘sex-sells’ shit you see everywhere, day in and day out.
your lack of creativity is showing.
Oh dear. My pussy is sleeping, actually, does that mean I’m trying to use sex to sell, Z3??
Common dude, lighten up.
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There, that’s a horny pussy. ;p
damn link – try again for a horny pussy:
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Thanks ralmn, like the quadruple amputee said, “How do you think I rang the doorbell?”
Grace, it’s not a milk bone, but it is ok to nibble on it 😉
(I couldn’t resist)
Oh, and Grace, I hope that you helped that man in your avatar. He so poor, almost no clothes and his pants don’t fit, he has to use both hands just to hold them up :O
I think it’s very relevant to the earlier religion = penis discussion. ;p
LOL, I like my avatar, thanks. How does sex fit into it? The guys got a nice six pack and some…sooo! I never see the guys complain when a chick pic comes up! Why is that? If one wants to talk about sex exploitation, it’s predominantly women that are exploited. Why do guys consistently fidget when looking at a well toned male body? I have no problems looking at a well defined female body. It takes work and dedication to achieve this physique whether it’s male or female. So I applaud their devotion to body beautiful.
It certainly beats that 6 foot long shlong that someone put up as their avatar, some time ago. Is that what you call creative, zZz? NOT!