To the man who just yelled at me for using the men’s washroom: I admitted that I was in the wrong, apologized & you still chose to lecture me at length. “What if a man needed to use it for an emergency?” – the facilities are equal (single toilet with lock) & identical, there were no men present & the women’s was occupied for an inordinate amount of time, do you expect me to stand waiting just in case a man shows up while my bladder is bursting & I can be in & out of there in about 3 minutes (I opened the door within about 30 seconds of your knocking)? Ok, “Everybody does it” is not a particularly good excuse on my part but your reaction was way out of proportion. Maybe you were just trying to impress your kids with your rant (they looked kind of uncomfortable). Maybe you were having a bad day? Your parting shot of “two rights don’t make a wrong” didn’t even make sense… —On the Gender Continuum

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  1. I’m much too biased to weigh in on this one…
    our facilities are equal for both men and women,
    though the ratio of men : women is 95 : 3

    and yet, I don’t use the women’s room… ever.

  2. If the choice is use the other genders bathroom or piss my pants…I’m going in & I don’t care who it pisses off (pun intended)
    But while 2 rights may not make a wrong, I know 3 lefts do make a right …. turn that is ~;p

  3. I agree OP, nosy wanker.

    “Next time I’ll just urinate in your open mouth, how’s that sound?”
    I wouldn’t have even entertained this jerk, he’d get the “walk right past you like you don’t exist” treatment.

  4. Imagine a man walking into a ladies’ washroom like that – guaranteed that he’d get flack from some outraged woman who thought his sweaty balls didn’t belong on a toilet seat. You were wrong, dude was right.

  5. He was worried you might have seen his small flange. Try explaining a woman calling you needle-dick to the kids.

  6. That’s the risk you take using the wrong facilties OP. I’ve never used the “ladies” it would be too embarrassing if I got caught.

  7. I agree OB. I do this too all the time at work (in single occupent washroom). If one is in use I will use the other, so long as I am not holding someone up. My bladder doesn’t know the difference between a men and women’s washroom. I don’t care if someone is upset by it either. It isn’t like I walked in on them or will be there when they do go.
    I would have just told him not to get his panties in a bunch and walked off. hahaha

  8. You know that if a man used the women’s washroom because the men’s was full, he’d probably end up in handcuffs and be on some list for the rest of his life. Fucking double standards.

  9. yeah i have to say, i sort of agree with Mel on this one.. consider honestly how you’d react if the roles were reversed. You wouldn’t have even asked him to explain himself. You would have just started screaming loudly. Unless the guy is in a dress and heels, I would too!

  10. Single occupant washroom, guys. If it’s a public style washroom, I agree with what I_K and Mel are saying, and I would never use it, but it’s single occupant. I don’t see the big deal. And no, a man would not get arrested for using it.

    Many times I have been wanting to wash my hands and the men’s room (again, single occupant) will be out of soap or paper towel and I’ll wash my hands in the ladie’s room. What, should I go bug the staff, who’s busy serving customers their lunch, and hold up everyone in line just so I can wash my hands in the “proper” bathroom. I don’ think so.

    I don’t think they should even have to differentiate between men’s and women’s wash rooms when they’re both single occupant. What’s the difference? First come first serve.

    I’m with you, OB, fuck that guy.

  11. I disagree with those of you claiming this is a double-standard. If it was a washroom with several stalls, then, yes, it would be inappropriate to enter the wrong bathroom. But if it’s just a single toilet in a room (which the OP is suggesting), I can’t see why anyone would freak out about that. It’s not like you cram a bunch of women into a single-person bathroom for them to wait their turn until one gets off the throne.

  12. depends on the case…
    we have mens, ladies, and accessible single washrooms because the entrance is too confining for chairs, etc… hell even some of the fat bastards can’t fit.

    but when I see women using them, I get a little pissed off. they have 3 stalls for all of the 9 of them in total which I seriously doubt all ‘get the call’ at the same time…
    while the nearly 300 of the rest of us use 2 stalls and a urinal. sometimes those extra couple washrooms make the fucking difference… and for me to potentially shat my pants waiting because you didn’t want to tinkle in the same room with another woman is fucking annoying and makes you a raging SET.
    bitch.

    grrr… been bugging me for years now….

  13. Trust me, guys, if there is a double standard involving gender roles, I’m all over it. I don’t think this qualifies.

  14. The guy had every right to yell at you. It’s a men’s washroom. Men aren’t allowed in the women’s washroom…..christ they’d probably be charged with sexual harassment and fuck knows what else by those feminist fanatics. Next time, stick to the women’s washroom.

  15. Does this happen a lot at your workplace zed? I dunno, I’m torn — I’ve got not only a diabetic bladder, but a bladder the size of a peanut, so sometimes it’s a desperate situation. Diabetes, and it’s affects are often not pretty. 🙁 So if i was in a desperate situation i mightn’t’ve got a choice. I also have no gallbladder, either, soooo….

  16. Let the record show that I will not take the man’s side in any given situation, Who’s our resident stenographer?

  17. WTG, Tommy. I have no shame using the men’s washroom if in desperation.

    Three words.

    Single.Occupancy.Restroom

  18. In the driver’s room at Scotia Square, There’s a mens room and a single occupant woman’s room. Lately I’ve wandered into that one quite a bit because the soap dispenser in the mens room is broken.

    Single occupant room, why even bother marking genders?

  19. I’ve been in plenty of places such as gas stations where anyone just uses whichever bathroom is available. That’s assuming it’s a single occupant bathroom. I don’t want men IN the bathroom with me any more than I assume men want me in the bathroom with them.
    I assume one reason single occupant bathrooms are marked with different symbols is if they have menstrual pad boxes or urinals.
    I’ll generally go in the women’s bathroom though…partly because I’m trained to and partly because men’s bathrooms tend to reek. Just sayin.

  20. I agree with the single toilet thing. Single toilet, no creepers, so … meh. Op I think you encountered a member of the idle population. Perhaps it’s their thing to watch people enter the bathroom and you were a c-c-c-combo breaker!

  21. Everytime we get a newhire, I’d go into the ladies washroom at the same time that the new hire is taking a carp.

    Then I make some really loud wet fart sounds.

    Alas, There is only 1 woman at my workplace so now I am not allowed to use the ladies washroom.

  22. oops, I should mention that the new hire would be a guy in the washroom next door. lol whew! I almost ruined that story

  23. just piss on the floor next time. i saw it dne once, and the owner nlew a fuse. but you know whay? he caved, when he walked into the ladies room, and saw the disgusting fucking mess. shit on walls and all over the toilet seat yet.i was about 10 feet away, and you could even smell it that bad.this was in newfieland.

  24. Single occupant restrooms need not be gender at all, even for the reason mole rat said. They are gender neutral in a certain overpriced coffee chain that I’ve been to in other countries. Not sure if they’re the same here, havent’ been in them,so I can’t speak as to that. But, I never saw where there was an issue having the restrooms be for either sex as long as they’re single occupant.

  25. DM “You know that if a man used the women’s washroom because the men’s was full, he’d probably end up in handcuffs”

    Right. Except can you think of a SINGLE instance when the mens’ room was full and the women’s room was empty? I’ll wait here while you think….

    Now, how many times have you seen a huge line snaking out of the women’s room and no one in the mens’? Potty Parity is more than the number of stalls, and peeing is more than holding your dick then shaking it dry for women.

  26. is it our fault we don’t have noise phobia…
    sit and likely chat… (I wouldn’t know)
    and have to touch up makeup… comb hair…
    see 5 different angles before we decide to leave?
    no, we get in, zip up, (hopefully) wash up, and get the fuck out.

    If your washrooms were as filthy as ours,
    you wouldn’t want to spend any more time in there than you have to.

  27. you’re generalising zedman, i don’t wear make-up, don’t like to chat while i’m doing my bidness. most public washrooms are so gross, who wants to spend extra time in them? not me

  28. The reason why the line to the ladies room is so long is they have to go in groups. Why? I don’t know but too afraid to ask.

  29. Peeing is more involved for women.

    Men = unzip pants, take dick out, pee, put dick back in, zip.

    Women = unzip pants/pull up skirt/dress, pull panty hose down (if you’re wearing ’em), pull undies down, sit, pee, get toilet paper, wipe (front to back, ladies!), stand up, pull up undies, pull up pantyhose (if you’re wearing ’em) and adjust undies and pantyhose so they’re not going to ride up your ass, adjust pantyhose legs (if you’re wearing ’em) so they don’t bunch around your ankles or knees (so they’re adequately pulled up), fix any shirt you may have untucked, pull up pants, fix a shirt that wasn’t tucked in, pull down skirt/dress and make sure the back of your skirt/dress isn’t tucked into your panties and/or pantyhose (if you’re wearing ’em), flush, make sure there’s no toilet paper stuck to your shoes.

    It’s a WAY more involved process, yo’.

  30. aha, that’s why i don’t wear pantyhose…it gives me a rash too. i try to let nothing touch the floor except the bottom of my shoes

  31. I don’t let anything touch the floor, either. THe farthest my pants/undies/pantyhose (if I’m wearing ’em) go down is around my knees!

    I wear skirts a lot in the winter, so I have to wear either pantyhose or tights. I prefer tights, though. For some reason they’re comfier (and last longer — I get maybe two to three wears of a pair of pantyhose, whereas I still have pairs of tights I bought two winters ago — and I don’t even hand wash my tights — I throw them in the wash!).

  32. Where do you get this magic tights PK!!?!? I will pay any price or service.

    Also, I spend a long time going pee because I’m making a TP fortress on the seat so my legs/bum don’t have to touch some lady’s vomited porn star or urine. Also, since us ladies use TP, the toilets tend to get clogged every god damn night so in a place where there are like 3 stalls for a hundred or so ladies and one is out of order and there is someone puking and passing out in one, it will take a looong time.

  33. Wow–DM–you take me back ***in a place where there are like 3 stalls for a hundred or so ladies and one is out of order and there is someone puking and passing out in one***

    Those were good times, good times…

    fyi: i’m with PK (again!) with all of it–except if you’re going to a really gnarly outdoor concert with nasty latrines, long skirts are better for peeing in a trench. also try Hue tights..pricey but worth it.

  34. I’ll pee wherever I want, what are you wimpy ladies gonna do about it??? If the ladies (single occupancy) room is empty, and the mens is full I’ll use it in a heartbeat, and no lecture from some nutcase will deter me now or ever. It’s only a sign on a door, get over yourselves.

  35. When I was in the Netherlands, if they had a festival or concert or other such event where there would be a lot of people out and in the streets, they would have these set up over city sewer drains:
    http://www.thisamsterdam.com/talesfromthec…
    Shear brilliance!! (Well, for the guys, anyway. Sorry ladies) They would be right there in the streets. You go party your face off and if you had to pee on your way to the next watering hole, you just saddled on up and download your stream. Absolute genius.

  36. Honestly, the best tights I’ve ever had were the regular old Secret tights from the drug store.

    I haven’t tried the Hue ones, though. They come in fancy colours and textures, which the Secret ones don’t, so I’m lookin’ into getting some funky colours/styles. 🙂

  37. if it’s so much of a god damned process and inconvenience…
    invent something to make it easier and streamlined… instead of bitching it takes an hour to get to the washroom.
    or wear fucking pants.

    as I said… you dilly dally…
    fyi, I wouldn’t worry about touching the toilet seat…
    now you’re just getting ridiculous.
    and if so, do you take as much care when you’re posting???

    http://www.geek.com/articles/news/your-toi…

  38. Actually, it’s easier to get yourself situated with a skirt/dress on with the absence of pantyhose than a pair of pants. If the pants have a zipper and/or buttons, you have to take the time to do that shit up, and sometimes adjust underwear so it doesn’t ride up your butt or isn’t situated weirdly as to cause discomfort. With a skirt or dress, you just pull it down.

    The “is my skirt/dress stuck in my panties” check really does only take a nanosecond.

  39. I know there are germs everywhere, but in a situation where the toilets are being used very frequently by inebriated people, there are usually some visible things on the seat that I’m not going to sit on just because there are worse things out there. Who would want to put their mouth on a lady after she used a public washroom so haphazardly? Although the good ladies clean themselves if someone wishes to put their mouth on them anyway :). You just have to be a germaphobe to understand my ways. The placebo effect is wonderful.

  40. the trick question would be… why would _single occupancy_ washrooms even need a “His/Hers” designation in the first place? I kinda miss those sealed, automated self-cleaning washrooms they have in some european cities; they get rid of all the gross factor and never seem to get clogged.

  41. PK, you’re an idiot. Who the fuck cares about your medical problems? And what the fuck does not having a gall bladder have to do with anything? Not having a gall bladder does not affect your daily life. Idiot.

  42. I can understand if you see visible vomit clumps or urine or whatnot… but if you’re that paranoid that a visibly clean seat still means you need to be armed with protection, you should be carrying around toilet seat covers…. around your neck…
    so everyone will know how much of a paranoid freak you are right from the get go.

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