I fucked up in my youth. I swore, smoked a little weed, drank way too young and got in too many fights. I grew up and still make a few mistakes. But what pisses me off is that when some kid does something these days, the so-called experts say the kid must have ADHD and therefor cannot be held responsible
Your kid is not mental, we all go through it, its part of growing up. Instead of shrinks and medicine, try grounding them or a good fucking spanking on the ass, worked on me (several times)
And, What makes you a professional to be able to determine that its ADHD. Your the kids parent and just do not want to admit that your parenting skills suck ass. Try spending more time with your child and find out what is so troubling.
Basically, Shut up and start being a parent instead of blaming “misbehavior” on everything but yourself.
—take responsibility
This article appears in Jul 9-15, 2009.
I’m on the same page as you, OP – I always thought ADD and ADHD was just a fucking trumped up condition that was created to generate millions of bucks for the drug companies.
South Park says it all:
http://www.mostpopularvideos.com/videos/38…
Could not agree more…
Totally agree with the OP. When it comes to raising respectful kids, the occasional beat-down is 100% necessary.
I agree to a point, but there’s another factor that has to be weighed here that nobody knows about. LYME DISEASE. Hate to be the conspiricist here, but did you know that 7/10 people have it? Over the past year and a half, twelve people in my extended family tested positive, and my mom, brother, and myself all recently tested postitive. Where my point comes in is that I struggled with ADD for my entire life, but doctors said I was too ”smart” to have it. It fits so many different categories that it can mimic diseases and conditions such as dementia and MS. So, kids that have ADD may not even have it; but have Lyme’s instead. At the same time, it is more likely the child has the condition if they begin to show signs later on in life, such as in their late teens or older. I recommend you guys watch the film that’s being released just so you know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxWgS0XLVqw
Thanks for taking a real mental illness seriously. There’s nothing that pisses me off more than some dickwad who thinks that the medical industry “made up” an illness to get cash, because they read it in some Adbusters article.
This bitch is full of contradictions…first they say “so-called experts” say the kid might have ADHD, then later they say that “professionals” are capable of diagnosing ADHD. Then they say you should spank your kid, and then later on they say you should “spend time” with them.
While it’s certainly possible that ADHD is overdiagnosed, it EXISTS, and the brain is like any other part of the body and is subject to malfunction. You can tell me I don’t have ADHD til the cows come home and maybe I will even agree with you…but the symptoms won’t magically disappear. Funny how that works.
My father beat the fuck out of me as a kid and it didn’t change anything.
Currently I am almost 100% “in the closet” about the very real challenges I live with daily, because most people in society, as soon as they hear “mental illness” say oh it’s all in their head. No shit sherlock, that’s kind of the point. That’s all for me for this thread because I don’t have the emotional energy to sit around debating with people who don’t really give a shit anyway.
I’m here for you, Mole Rat.
I agree with you too Mole Rat, I as well suffer from this however I guess I should have been more specific (and read more clearly) that what I agree with is that this disorder is too overdiagnosed, which I feel contributes to the stigma surrounding it (its just an excuse etc). Just during my initial consult I was advised to have my family come in as well, and loe and behold he diagnosed all of them… I dont think people really understand how difficult it is to live with this (inability to focus, difficulty sleeping as the mind wanders constantly) its really quite troublesome.
I still think it’s all a big bag of horseshit. Our society of victimization allows people to evade responsibility for their actions by claiming it’s a disease, a condition, something they can’t help. What a crock of steaming turkey turds.
First, if you read my post, you will notice that i call “so called experts” and refering to the parents of a couple particular kids. These parents never took the kids to the doctor for assessment, just asuming that its ADHD. I am aware that its a real disease, but too many parents self diagnose.
Mole rat says that their father beat the shit out of them as a child. I NEVER said that, I said spanking. Learn to fucking read.
First, if you read my post, you will notice that i said “so called experts” and was refering to the parents of a couple particular kids. These parents never took the kids to the doctor for assessment, just asuming that its ADHD. I am aware that its a real disease, but too many parents self diagnose.
Mole rat says that their father beat the shit out of them as a child. I NEVER said that, I said spanking. Learn to fucking read.
next when a kid shoots another kid, we can just blame it on ADHD and not because the parents are home smoking crack or in jail. Good Call Mole rat
ADD is over-diagnosed and oftern mis-diagnosed, but it does exist.
I too Agree with the OP.
ADD, ADHD and Autism what a bunch of Bull Shit. Sure these conditions exist, but not in the numbers the experts says. I suspect in many cases it is the expects way of saying: I do not know what-the-fuck is wrong with this person. I suspect most of it is a behavioral problem that could be linked with single parenting or poor parenting skills.
Thank you OP. I agree 100% with you. Now a days it is easier for people to blame a disease then take responsibility for themselves or their children.
I feel the same way about the medical community saying that being a drug addict or an alcoholic is now a disease. WTF? It is a life choice that’s made, that can cause a disease. Again it’s just easier to blame it on a disease then take responsibility for yourself.
It just seems there is a disease for everything!
ADD and ADHD do exist, but they are not as common as we think they are. Candida, Autism, Aspergers, Panic attacks, Ciliacs, Peanut allergies all DO exist, but they also are not too common. People think they have things sometimes but often times don’t.
As a kid, i had terrible problems concentrating on anything, including TV. I wouldn’t sleep at night easily, I would scream a lot and run around the house bumping into walls head first, falling over, getting up and doing it again. I was insane. I didn’t have ADHD, i just needed to exert some energy. Hockey did the trick.
Television killed my concentration, thats what 4 hours of Disney Afternoon (Gummie Bears, Ducktales, Rescue Rangers, Tailspin, Darkwing Duck) a day does to you.
I’m so glad I wasn’t diagnosed with ADHD and fed amphetamines or methylphenidate.
Yeah! I agree with Dr. Scott!
Stop coddling these kids! Especially those with “so-called” diseases like MS and CP!!! Wimps!
Riding around in those chairs like they’re better than us. Stupid doctors and their stupid research!
When I was growing up there was no AIDS, so it must be fake now!
You know what Scott? Try being in a room when the doctor tells you your son is autistic, that he will need care for the rest of his life. He won’t be going to university, or folloeing in your footsteps.
Nope, you get to watch a beautiful kid go further and further into a dark hole.
Fuck you Scott, fuck you.
(Excerpts from a community project rather than retype)
Those of us that meaningfully engage, either professionally or personally, with the multi-dynamic issues of poverty have noticed that there is a knee-jerk reaction in vulnerable communities where manifestations of poverty are automatically symptomatic to then be addressed with a fast fix, usually medication and often self medicating behaviours that often become life- long and/or generational.
Many youth and children in these communities are being diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (herein ADHD) and are prescribed pharmaceuticals to address these complex issues that may or may not have anything to do with a medical diagnosis.
We know impoverished families do not have privy to private assessments therefore are at the mercy of insensitive and often desensitized systems that mass produce diagnosis and create patterns of dependent prescription usage, yet these individuals are still being suspended from school and are ‘falling’ behind their classmates.
It is our mission to promote a holistic approach to this issue leaving pharmaceutical usage as a last resort when those involved have had the benefit of having made an educated choice according to their need and ability. We want persons in poverty to have the benefit of a private assessment to eliminate potential gender, racial and socio-economic/ class biases that often are retaliatory or punitive to those living in poverty.
The relationship between school and home on the issue of drugs and who assessed the ADHD diagnosis is usually contentious in these communities. The problem and suspicion in these communities right now is that people are not being properly and unbiasly assessed to then endure the cyclical frustration of the inevitable fall out as some of these children and youth are still being suspended from school and some are zombiefied from improper drug prescriptions, use and dosages.
We want school and family and community to work together in that when a qualified physician says this is ADHD and medications are the recommendation then school and home must work as partners in complying. Advocating for a holistic approach, the family should have the right to choose to include reasonable and ethical alternatives or complimentary treatment modalities.
We advocate that the qualified physician, assessment and recommended medication are considered a last resort deconstructing the dysfunctional practice of medicating the child on unqualified comments which is not in the best interest of child and /or family which is now the first and only resort often causing more harm then benefit.
We are advocating that alternative holistic remedies be exhausted first before medicating children and youth who may otherwise not be medicated and labeled if they were privy to a private assessment and /or holistic remedies.
Poverty does not have a monopoly on ADHD but we know the resources, or lack thereof, are part of the issue in poverty that is not an issue elsewhere. Increased accessibility to more viable solutions will not be in place until we meaningfully discuss this issue in public once and for all. We first must replace fiction with facts and confirm who has the legal authority to diagnose. As so many of us are stakeholders the participants must reflect the diversity in both the community, who has potential allies and services and in the community most directly affected by Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.
We want meaningful engagement from all stakeholders to address, discuss, assess and comply with an intelligent, sensitive and ethical approach to diagnosing children and youth in poverty.
We hope to involve community for a working day in dealing with the socio-medical realities of ADHD and poverty.
As this function is adult learning based it is suggested than no persons under the age of 16 should register.
This project intends to discuss:
– multi-directional support amongst all stakeholders of this issue including the family often ignored in this discussion, involvement from the family empowers family, provisions of age appropriate learning tools that assist in building the confidence of youth and children who are otherwise struggling due to embarrassment, suspensions and falling behind in class from the lack of such complimentary tools, supports and understanding.
– the role of socio-economic class, the most economically vulnerable do not have access to private assessments or insurances to give their child or youth the best of possible opportunities for an adequate and thorough diagnosis. Regardless of economics, alternatives need to be included in the choices, using often intrusive pharmaceuticals as a last resort. As it is now the Impoverished do not have the luxury of choosing more suitable remedy options for ADHD defined by their own family beliefs, structure, abilities and practices.
– children/youth who will be labeled throughout their entire school careers as problem children and that these children, spending most of their time in day suspensions and not in the classroom, were inadvertently being sentenced to a life of dysfunction and poverty. We need to find complimentary alternatives to responding to children and youth that have ADHD in the classroom: suspensions are exacerbating the problem at school and in the community as idle and often unsupervised children and youth do get into mischief whereby symptoms and behaviours of ADHD become criminalized.
– that poverty must be assessed in terms of trauma symptomology first before considering other diagnosing and too often culture, geography, environment, familial structuring, sibling order and lack of disposable income are not considered.
Quality is not an accident: it is the deliberate result of intelligent effort (unknown)
Relevant persons of interest would be:
Community voice ( any age over 16 years old), teachers, school boards, guidance counselors, child welfare workers, resource centres, child and youth service providers/ programmers, community/family advocates and school liaisons.
For the purpose of this event we are defining Community voice ( herein CV) as those directly affected with the ADHD diagnosis and poverty either as the one diagnosed and /or family member(s) that reside with a person with ADHD.
We recognize that critical discussion and analysis of poverty and illness are long overdue in certain communities and we strongly encourage CV from MISA, Native, Black, French, any visibly or perceived impoverished community, non-poverty persons with ADHD diagnosis, disabilities and brain injuries to register for they have the expertise through experience with this very ‘disabling’ label that affects performance at school and at home.
What do you think would happen if a doctor said to some misbehaving kid’s parents: “I don’t know what is causing your kid to act like a total dickwad… Maybe you’re bad parents?”
No parent wants to be told they suck at parenting.
I bet it’s just easier to diagnose ADD or ADHD, even if the kid doesn’t have it, than it would be to say that it’s the parenting.
mcgayle and his/her manifestos…
The problem with ADHD is the fact that kids are just naturally hyperactive. Some more than others. That does not mean that they have what is a diagnosable disorder – it does often mean that they have parents who can’t handle it and need a quick fix. I don’t think anyone can argue that there is a tendancy towards over diagnosis and over medication.
This does not mean that it doesn’t exist or that there are kids who are truly in need of medication and help. One telling thing is the summer camps and schools specially designed for kids with ADHD often get most of the kids off medication – sometimes in as quick as 1 week. Mostly through behaviour therapy involving reward systems. I often think that this may be just the over-diagnosis as opposed to a break through in treatment (as in, the kids who don’t truly have ADHD respond while those that do don’t respond).
“Attention-Deficit Disorder” was created when people decided they needed a PC name for the phenomenon originally known as “Shitty Parents / Shitty Kids.” It happens when kids are raised by television sets and video games, and the parents are too busy working, fighting with each other, or fucking other people to have a conversation with their shitty kid, smack their shitty kid around, or set a good example for their shitty kid.
“Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder” was created for the ADD kids who are especially irritating and/or dangerous.
Example:
A kid on a little league baseball team holding a bat and spinning around in circles until he passes out isn’t a dumb shit, he has ADD.
A kid on a little league baseball team holding a bat, spinning around in circles, and chasing his teammates around with it while laughing like a horny spider monkey isn’t a retarded little prick, he has ADHD.
In either case, there’s a pill out there that can clear up these kinds of problems. It’s called PUNCH THE LITTLE VERMIN IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD AND DON’T BRING THEM TO THE MALL.
The Holy Windbag Pontification According to the Epistle of Saint McGayle had me furiously pounding on my down arrow – holy fuck – I’d rather wipe my ass with an armedillo than read that copied pile of steaming excrement.
Here ya go Onion
Totally agree with the OP. When it comes to raising respectful wives, the occasional beat-down is 100% necessary.
Fixed it for you.
ass
holy lord liftin’ jesus i hate community engagement / development -speak. what a load of horseshit.
why not simply say – “we are going out to the talk to the public to see what we can do about the problem of doctors and other professionals over-diagnosis of AD(H)D and the accompanying labeling, pathologization and over-prescription of drugs that may do more harm than good in the long run. we are especially interested in the issues for children in poor families where the real problems to be dealt with might be a deprived environment, low self-esteem, lack of parental / community understanding of developmental issues, and a lack of parental coping skills”
now of course this is STLL too long and windy, but is approximately 1% of the fluff above
I agree with cptstubing, while it may exist as a disease in a small amount of people, it’s becomes an overly used diagnoses by parents to explain why their kids are brats. Same with peanut allergies, and migranes.
I actually think that the lack of peanut butter in kids diets these days causes hyper activity. Lots of parents I know have said that peanut butter sandwiches calm their children down, but now they can’t have them due to supposed allergies in half the kids at school, so they just stay hyper.
Once again stop being my pussified bitches and ignore my posts. I realize some of you are allergic to information so please move on quietly.
The rules are simple: take what you want leave what you do not….
For those reading impaired it states so I do not have to type….(Excerpts from a community project rather than retype)
I am busy working on big people stuff today so just cut and pasted…. you guys should know about paste and glue….some of you been sniffing way too much
chill mcgayle – only three people actually commented on your post, and at least two knew it was copied and said so. one of us even offered a coles notes version to help decode it.
nobody was complaining about the information in it, just the fluffy language and unnecessary length. there is a culture in community development work that encourages this sort of verbal diarrhea and it’s a real shame because this kind of language which earnestly strives so hard to be “inclusive” is actually quite alienating.
on the one hand it completely flies over the heads of the “joe public” type that is the object of the engagement / consultation, and on the other, it is (usually) recognized as ostentatious and sophomoric at best, and often obfuscatory or vacuous at worst by the decision makers who are tasked with implementing new programs and services based on the findings of the work it describes.
there is a good reason that so few academics are successful outside of academia or government.
Jammie: I was speaking to those who went off the deep end with banal replies that in fact make them guilty of the very thing they claim I do..
It is not just here, they do it almost every other thread and it is as fecking old and tired as they are……….
My post was qualified and yet the one eyed jacks still had something stupid to say…and today I just had enough from the LCD zoo
I cannot stand whiney babies that go on and on and on and offer zero to most threads….. perhaps I am in the wrong forum and I will own that.
I have never seen so much immaturity in one place in all my life, other than city council and the police dept but…
anyway…..it was an attempt to show some of us are to address this very issue be the diagnosed/med stage….the fact it was in part written for grant that was AWARDED…..
It is clear that there are far more med issues on this board than ADD/ADHd that attracts the ugliest of the ugly… so I am really in the wrong forum…
I took the bitching forum to mean critically analyzing our HRM surroundings and what we think on the topics.
I was wrong. I will own that too.
fair enough. and yeah i think you were wrong about this forum, although your assumption was a reasonable one. LTWWB was always a fun rant sort of thing, which started in the print magazine where the was one raging curse-fest per issue. i don’t think it’s ever been or was ever intended to be a constructive thing, just a fun let-it-all-out thing.
Holy shit, you could debate this one till you were blue, just read up on it for yourself. There aren’t going to be any real answers here.
Anyone remember that annoying poster that was constantly going wiki-happy here last year? What was his name, The Homie? Yeah…that was it. This mcgayle person really reminds me of that guy.
oh no!
Mcgayle made me hate Scotland.
The problem with such psychological disorders like ADD/ADHD is that they’re over diagnosed SOOOO many times that those who really are suffering from these disorders are often shrugged off because there are suddenly so many kids out there with ADD/ADHD that it’s become suspect. Just throw some adderol (sp?) at these kids and they’ll be alright….never mind the fact that A LOT of these kids just aren’t being disciplined. Kind of like how A LOT of fat people blame their fatness on “medical conditions”….when the large majority just eat too much and/or are too inactive. BUT there *are* people out there who are overweight because of actual medical disorders and/or it’s impossible for them to lose weight because of it. Those people are considered a joke because every fatty out there uses these excuses….I mean if I hear “I have an underactive thyroid” one more time….ugh.
And it’s also like those with clinical depression or anxiety disorders….everyone and their DOG is on anti depressants these days….go into your doctor, tell them you’re sad and HELLO he’s a prescription for paxil/prozac/effexor/whatever…it completely trivializes those with actual clinical psychological disorders. Life isn’t all sunshine and roses and too many people think medication is their key to happiness….when they don’t need the drugs. It completely insults and degrades those who really DO need these drugs. Since everyone and their dog is on these medications these days, those who really need it get a big fat eye roll when they say they take these medications. I’ve had friends who have gone on anti depressants because their boyfriend broke up with them and likened that to being clinically depressed. Give me a break. Anyone who’s actually suffered with or is suffering with clinical depression would probably smack her upside the head if they heard her talking that drivel.
It’s kind of annoying, really, when you think about all of this. No one just sucks it up and takes responsibility for anything these days. The lazy “it’s not my fault” mentality is ridiculous. Everyone wants the easy way out and blaming your problems on a “medical condition” that can conveniently treated with a once-a-day magic pill instead of dealing with their actual problems. Makes the rest of those who are ACTUALLY suffering from these conditions look like lamers like the fakers. And that’s not really fair.
I have studied and worked in this field, my views change, but I don’t believe ADHD or learning disabilities exists. You have to remember ADHD and LDs only exists in a select few countries in the world. Try going to Singapore or Argentina or South Africa or Pakistan, number of kids with ADHD or LDs? Zero.
We live in a PC world, you are no longer allowed to say one kid is smarter than another kid. That’s why we stopped streaming. At a certain point it becomes unavoidable that one kid is smarter than another, so then we have to come up with a reason why, so it’s ADHD or LD.
Learning disability is total bunk. Some kids are slow, that doesn’t mean you are disabled. Furthermore, labeling them LD makes the situation worse because the kid doesn’t even try to do the work “I can’t do this, I’m learning disabled.”
One more thing, LDs and ADHD are almost entirely a domain for boys. Imagine the cry for action from feminists if it was all girls, but since it is boys nobody cares.
When diagnosed in a doctor’s office ADHD and LDs are about split 50/50 between boys and girls, but when it is diagnosed in a classroom by teachers and administrators it is 90% boys. Something strange there.
I don’t believe this is all about drug companies (even though the top ADHD experts get paid by them), they are just filling the market that our PC world has created.
Again, I repeat, LDs and ADHD only exist in a few countries.
Yorkke – which countries?
Amen yorkke, I’ve been saying this for years.
Being PC requires us to give out praise to children like candy. We’re supposed to constantly tell our kids that they are special and wonderful whether or not they’ve done anything praise worthy.
It’s not only the fault of the parents. Look at the entire school system. All the self esteem bullshit teachers are required to teach students these days. There are entire lessons, with books, videos, flash cards etc. all telling kids, “You are the special just the way you are even if all of those people don’t think so” Even cartoons on TV are spewing this bullshit. Where’s the incentive for kids to better themselves when they are already oh so special. Kids who constantly hear this at school AND at home almost always have problems with authority. “Fuck off authority, I’m awesome.” The confident little shits grow up without any incentive to accomplish anything or do anything useful, because they don’t have to.
Enter bullshit ADHD and bullshit learning disabilities. Also fat kids.
Matthew: sorry about you or the mother of your child’s ”bad genes”. Perhaps some sort of deficiency or maybe she took somethings during pregnancy that she should not have . Maybe you took a General Practitioner’s word for it when he/she/it said you son has Autism.
I still stand by my opinion; parenting, be it single or poor is the leading cause of this so call ADHD/ADD and Autism. A close second would be dumb/stupid doctors that have too many patients, not enough time and/or compassion. They read the fluffy journals to get an idea of what ADHD/ADD and Autism are so they can use this buzzword to write-off children’s behavioral problems instead of actually seeing what the real issue is. A GP can not make the diagnosis, it takes a several specialists.
So Matthew, fuck you and your crappy seed ,!,,
There is a major difference between ADD and ADHD. The kid with ADD is NOT the kid bouncing off the walls and beggin’ for a spanking. He’s the quiet one falling behind and disinterested when compared to his peers. And you think we should spank the child? You people…
mcgale, “We know impoverished families do not have privy to private assessments” GO BACK TO AMERICA!!! Somebody tell this woman she’s in Canada now. Holy fuck!
As to the rest of the article, it’s worth looking at the (obvious) relationship between socio-economic status and the occurrence of schizophrenia (subjective diagnosis) and other mental illness. Perhaps we should look at the far-reaching affects of childhood stress. We might even find homosexuality a result of a high-stress childhood.
I think the biggest problem is “diagnosis” are subjective, not objective. There is no magical test that will say you test positive for ADD, ADHD, schizophrenia, anxiety, etc. They can only be done during autopsy and even then the results may be inconclusive.
As for the prescribed therapy, the introduction of amphetamines, ANYBODY’S brain and body will work harder, faster and more efficiently while stoned to high heaven on ANY amphetamine. This is why competing athletes like it so much. They are, indeed, “performance enhancing” drugs.
Lazy parents or not, the kid deserves to learn basic reading, writing and math skills so they have half a chance of success in this country despite what their parents might be doing to them. We do what it takes to empower them.
One more thing, drug addiction and alcoholism IS a disease. It might not have started out that way but that’s the end result. Those people need help overcoming their symptoms and that, my friends, is exactly what the Canadian health system is for!
fuck off with the canadian health system responsibilities. if you love someone, step in and try. and if that doesnt work, pay the money out of your wallet to help them when it comes to addictions. isnt love worth a few bucks. fuck
What? No amount of money is going to cure ADD nor alcoholism and neither is a “holistic” approach. WTF are you talking about, crappy?
Oh, I think crappy is saying if you’re dumb enough to get addicted then you don’t deserve help via tax dollars.
Crappy, one question, if you’re dumb enough to eat 3 day old pizza, by your logic, you should have to go pay a private clinic to restore your fluids and put you on your feet again. There was no accident involved and there’s no reason but you’re own stupidity that you’re sick. You could even take it as far as, “What? You didn’t wash your hands and now you’re dying swine flu? Pony up some cash and we’ll make you all better.” Get real, crappy.
Our health system does not pick and chose who deserves to get back on their feet and who deserves to stay sick. Why would you want to?
But, muffin, if we can choose to *believe* we will not get cancer despite smoking our brains out, can’t we just *believe* our way out of drug and alcohol addiction too? That is, after all, the traditional view.
Cancer is an illness we can choose not to have with the power of the mind, but drug and alcohol addiction is an illness that we’re helpless against, and need the health system for?
Now, how about addiction to nicotine? Is that the same or is nicotine a “right”, and a “choice”, rather than a drug addiction?
P.S. I’m impressed at how you managed to get a dig in against dem dere homersexerals in a thread about AD(H)D. Skillful!
alright Kay, fuck you. Dont tell me what i was saying. the post before mine ended with throwing alcohol and drugs into the equation and said it is the health system to fix these issues.
My original post was for ADHD and how parents self diagnose their children, in an attempt to avoid blame of being a shitty parent. Thats all I meant when I started this.
So Kay, take all your self proclaimed knowledge, roll it in a tight little ball, and shove it up your ass. Read things before you reply.
I pretend not to read all the time. Yup. Whatever. crappy, if I’ve got it all wrong then why don’t you clarify your post instead of just crapping? How can knowledge be anything other than self-proclaimed? What a cloud you live under, crappy. Poking holes for the helluvit. You’re one unhappy camper, aren’t you?
muffin? Jammie, that sounds like an endearing term. It sounds like you may be catching onto my drift too. Thanks for paying attention. Really! If we have healthy minds, we have healthy bodies (strong immune systems, smart lifestyle, etc). That’s not to say each of us doesn’t need or doesn’t deserve help when we’re down.
Oh, kay, you imp. You’re slippery, you are. You trixter. This is the second time in recent weeks you’ve taken my saracastic, quasi-rhetorical questions, ignored the sarcasm or irony intended in them, and used them literally as if they actually back up your own arguments. You little minx. You king and queen of straw men. Muffin.
Am I the only one who is quite interested in what Kay would choose as an avatar? Why doesn’t she have one?
Let’s make it whole grain then
LMAO Nice! You’re quick. I’ll give you that.
It’s endearing. I can’t help myself 🙂
Muffin, interesting choice.
I feel like your comments will be taken in a slightly different light now, maybe less harshly, or we’ll all start disliking muffins.
ADHD and ADD are the new racism, and like racism will be cited for every problem that befalls a few fuckwits, and like racism will soon become tiresome. If we had decent parenting and a school system that actually taught children subjects that will help them in life, and not some socialised project, we’d all be better off. In the good old days, some kids were very bright and some were very thick and teachers and parents knew this and were prepared to have their kids streamed. Now everyone is equal so as not to offend the PC wankers, which helps nobody because the coddled little fucks fail in life and the hiring staff soon detect that they’re mutants and aren’t going to get a job in their company.
Final point; mcgayle has VD – Verbal Diahorreah.
Or maybe she just has ADHD.
Nice try Scotty Troll!
Yup, 2 years of Doctor to Doctor, and then we got the news.
You’re some 20ish “Internet Tough Guy” running his mouth off like all the /b/tards out there
I think the only crappy seed here is the one your mom had in the turkey baster when she made you.
Either way Matthew, I can have my opinion and you can fuck-off. Obviously what I think bothers you. Still, I think what I want and again, you can fuck-off.
And since you spawned a fuck-up, I would suggest your seed is bad. Just like your attitude. Do you get upset a lot? I bet you do. I bet you are vertically challenged as well. That would explain you a bit better. Other than me being an asshole, I have no medical conditions, I would say nothing wrong with my parents seeds.
Since you think I am a Troll, this post is better fitting your description. You Goof !!
nice muffin kay
Thanks Jane! It was jammie’s idea.
Made with whole grain Special kay™
oh!!! i LOVE IT 😀
ADHD and Autism DO NOT EXIST! It’s called BAD PARENTING!
Autism doesn’t exist? Are you in the Oprah book of the week club, too?
Feel free to volunteer at your local elementary/junior highschool to assist the special needs kids sometime. Go for it. Don’t be shy.
“ADHD and Autism DO NOT EXIST! It’s called BAD PARENTING!”
Well thats just not true
Folks,
You’re encountering the worst type of troll, the “HAHA Your kid is sick and it is your fault HAHA”
These trolls love these sorts of posts, because they know how worked up people get about their kids. I got suckered into replying to Scott’s post, breaking the first rule of telling with them; Don’t Feed Them.
Andy, you douche. I have it and it fucks up my life daily.
well then. thank fuck for the lack of clock towers at our universities then
No you don’t Dino. Scott and Andy say it’s your shitty parent’s fault.
Oh well, fuck, that just shatters my world.