That this place is shit ass backwards? That you do the same work that people in the rest of the country do but they make 20K more a year—and pay less taxes.
That everything here costs more, yet people insist the salary differences are because of the lower cost of living? Have you looked at housing costs within a reasonable commute to the city—where the only few jobs are actually located? Have you looked at the price of gas? The price of groceries?
That there is some half-assed east coast work ethic of never doing anything in a reasonable amount of time. Waiting for someone to call you back? May as well wait a week… Waiting for someone to tell you that you didn’t get the job despite being over qualified? May as well wait two weeks. That is, of course, if the person even bothers to call you back.
Why does no one give a fuck? Why do you continue to pay outrageous prices for things that your meagre half assed salary can’t afford to pay for that are exponentially cheaper elsewhere in the country? Why do you continue to lose your shit when the liquor store has a sale putting bottles of wine 15 cents off when you’re paying almost twice as much as anywhere else in the country? Fuck people just don’t give a fuck here. Get the shit beat out of your career, your salary and your dignity just for a shitty salary and shut up and take it—don’t say a word. Don’t questions why things are that way, don’t try and make a difference, just drink your overpriced beer, bang your gross chicks cranking out a couple more welfare cheques and miss your car payment on your over financed 2004 Crapalier and worry about it monday when you go slave your ass off for 12 bucks an hour so proud that you have been working there for 6 years and are making above minimum wage. Maybe that call centre you applied for will call you this week—after all you have that MBA hanging on the wall.
And anyone who says “Then move away” is totally missing the whole fucking point and you’re just one of the aformentioned “don’t give a fuckers” that can’t be bothered to even think farther than the next credit card payment to question why the fuck things are so shit ass back wards here in the first place. So fuck right off. —Fuck
This article appears in Nov 29 – Dec 5, 2012.
I’ll get back to you on that.
i know.. Part of it is that we don’t have the population to support lower prices so this drives inflation up. Part of it seems more sinister though.. i agree with you.
I agree. And with this greedy looking fat cat mayor that just got voted in, giving himself a nice raise as soon as his greedy mitts on the dough, things can only get worse.
I’ve been getting more and more pissed off about this shit lately, too, ob. I’ve been seriously considering uprooting my family, yet again, for a positive change. This place is terrible.
o.p., what are you going on about? we all know that this province sucks dog nuts, and not in a goood way. yep, my suggestion to you, is the same as everyone else will make, don’t like it here, go away somewhere else. but don’t bother with the states, or europe, they are worst than we are here. so, what to do, either suck it up like the rest of us, or win a fucking big lottery.
OP , for around a hundred & 20 bucks I can get a wine kit from Italy, South America, France, the USA or even Canada & make 30 bottles of really superior wine.
you don’t have to be a grnius to figure out what it costs for a bottle of decent wine then. Sure there’s the cost of equipment, but once its paid for it lasts a rerally long time (I’m over 2 years on some stuff).
Then there’s the continued cost of cleaning supplies & of course more wine kits …but at 4 & a half bucks a bottle. THen there are cheaper kits for 50-60 bucks, bringing the cost down even lower .
http://www.winemakingsuperstore.com/red_ki…
Please note I picked this link so as not to single out any of the local wine kit stores.
SO OB … You can stop the gouging by the government …except you have to actually do something & put in a bit of effort by making yer own .
Lately it seems to me everyones just too damn important in their own mind to actually do anything for themselves …easier to bitch, rant & rail as opposed to finding a solution ,to what pisses you off !
Now that, I think of it, I’ve got to go check the specific Gravity of the 2 batches I’m presently making.
I’VE SAID IT BEFORE….
“Maybe that call center you applied for will call you this week – after all you have that MBA hanging on the wall.” Fuck
A sad story, of course “Fuck”, but one that was not unexpected. The difficulty “Fuck,” is that you have no conception of what a university education is for. It is – wait for it, “Fuck” – for an EDUCATION. But what is education? Education is – wait for it again, “Fuck” – the cultivation of the MIND.
Now, put your thinking cap on, “Fuck”. What is an “MBA” (i.e., a “Master of Business Administration”)? An MBA – there is no such degree as a BBA (i.e., a “Bachelor of Business Administration” and that should tell you something) – is not related to education. It is not related to the cultivation of the MIND. Do you understand that, “Fuck”? It is training, and training is related to performing a particular task. It has no place in a university. It (as with the B.Comm.) belongs in a technical school. There’s nothing wrong with that, of course, but it doesn’t belong in a university. Do you understand that, “Fuck”?
What has happened, “Fuck,” is that you went to university for the wrong reason. You were doubly gulled, first into believing that you were getting an education – you weren’t – and secondly into believing that your training would get you a job – it didn’t.
What does this tell you, “Fucked?” That’s right. It tells you that you are not too bright but you can take solace from the fact that you wouldn’t have profited from a university education anyway. Do you know why, “Fucked?” That’s right. You don’t have a mind.
But you’re right about one thing, “Fucked”. You’re fucked, but not in the way you think are. So, say good night “Fucked.”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
bravo! a veritable 2 by 4, obviously needed for the dunderhead. good one mm.
Good points, More. You know what puts money in my pocket? Growing my own veggies, even tho it’s a lot of work for little return, it’s still economically viable. Also, I put effort into my pedals when I bike to work. Not having a car or needing a bus pass helps pad the wallet rather nicely. Rent is another one, I share a huge house with room mates, so I’m paying a fraction of what some people pay for an apartment. If I made my own booze, I’d save a pretty penny there too. If I could weave fabric and perform my own medical examinations I’d be set!
If you wanna save money you need to make sacrifices, and if you wanna make money you have to put in the extra effort.
Also, OB, please stop thinking that your post describes everyone from out here. That’s only what you see and doesn’t describe even a smidgen of the people I know.
I hope the wine turns out, More. My buddy just bottled 56 pints of home brewed beer, just awesome!
Is that 2004 cavalier for sale? I got a new credit card I’m set to start racking up!
I notice all of that, dumbass. You’re not some enlightened prophet.
I live here because I like living here. I’ve lived in two other provinces plus another freaking continent, and guess what? There’s annoying problems to deal with there, too. Honest to God, every week there’s someone going “everywhere else is so much better!” No, no it’s not. It’s just different enough that you don’t notice until the novelty wears off and the new place’s issues start irritating the shit out of you. You either learn to put up with them or you don’t.
*long winded know it all comment alert*
grabbed a couple of things from cost of living website..
litre of gas
halifax 131
toronto 128
calgary 117
vancouver 138
edmonton 107
winnipeg 125
montreal 140
regina 125
kamloops 117
barrie 130
moncton 129
ottawa 124
taxi start rate
halifax 375
toronto 425
calgary 368
vancouver 320
edmonton 360
winnipeg 350
montreal 348
saskatoon 375
regina 425
kamloops no taxis apparently
barrie 500
moncton 320
ottawa 347
monthly bus pass basic (one zone)
halifax 70
toronto 123
calgary 90
vancouver 88
edmonton 84
winnipeg 77
montreal 75
saskatoon 71
regina 61
kamloops 53 (to make up for lack of taxis?)
barrie 100
moncton 61
ottawa 91
1 bedrm apt in city centre
halifax 907
toronto 1300
calgary 1,117
vancouver 1300
edmonton 1145
winnipeg 800
montreal 900
saskatoon 900
regina 900
kamloops 860 (don’t forget, no taxis)
barrie 750 (i have seen down town barrie ugh)
moncton 625
ottawa 925
dozen eggs
halifax 3.00
toronto 3
calgary 3
vancouver 4
edmonton 3
winnipeg 2.50
montreal 3
saskatoon 2.25
regina 2.99
kamloops 3.20 (cannot throw at taxis)
barrie 3.25
moncton 2.95
ottawa 2.80
price of a loaf of bread was 3 across the country.
as the donkey said, you really should step out and live other places, not because you are whining, but because it’s good to get outside your own frame of reference. and people should experience something other than their own back yard. sheesh. vacationing in other places doesn’t cut it. live/work/pay utilities/shop for real groceries/find a doctor/deal with beaurocracy in other places. do it while you’re young and free.
GDM. You left out that Halifax is the second place crime capital in Canada. That puts us on the map! You can’t put a price on that which is very sad.
I’m thinking about moving to Churchill, Manitoba where the only thing will kill me is bitter cold or polar bears. I want to go out with dignity.
senor, certainly nothing wrong with feeding the bears in that manner, imo. fits with my ice floe plans…
senor, scuse…where did that come from? statistics seem so fluid. i have 2011 and halifax comes in at number 28 th down (prince george at #1 no surprise there)
and nova scotia in 8th place (1 being the worst) in the provinces. mine came from mcleans mag.
Oh cry me a river OP and get lost. I’m getting sick to death of these whiners, how bad it is here. It’s not at all bad, things are expensive everywhere, the economy is taking a downturn.
“Gross chicks”? What does that mean? Probably means that you are a complete idiot.
DgM. I should have mentioned 2nd place in homocides. That’s what the paper and TV told me, not unless it’s all lies.
OP, the best advice for any 1 person is move away. And, I’m not trying to be rude. It doesn’t hurt to gain quality experience somewhere else in Canada, then come back if you want to. The experience of living somewhere else in Canada will be good, too.
Seconded Troodon…though I might have taken OP slightly seiously without the “gross chicks” remark…..
I agree with OP.
I believe people are delusional here and try as hard as possible to believe that Halifax is heaven when by far it’s not.
Good Dog Molly, sorry to disappoint you but I looked up all your information and I have no idea where you got it from. You posted the information yesterday so there’s no way on earth it changed dramatically over night.
I have been looking for a 1 bedroom apartment for quite some time now but decided to stay where I am since it’s a great deal. Most of the apartments I saw in downtown Halifax city centrer were over $1100 a month and they were 1 bedroom apartments, excluding certain ones, certain ones meaning ones that should be condemned actually.
Ocean towers charge $950 and that’s not even in city centre. In fact I wouldn’t want to live in that area. I know people who did and they moved out once their lease ended.
I lived in Edmonton. I had an apartment in the middle of city centre. 1 bedroom apartment and I paid $650 a month. Not to mention a very nice apartment at that.
My brother owns a condo in the middle of downtown Toronto. 1 bedroom condo that he bought for $230,000 Granite everything with stainless appliances. His condo fee is 350 a month and includes heat, hot water, cable, internet, pool and gym. Please find me that deal in downtown Halifax. Also according to my brother that lives there, groceries there are at least 20% less than what we pay here, including milk and bread.
In Edmonton I paid $40 for groceries that lasted me 2 weeks. Now I’m lucky if $100 here cuts it!
As far as I know, and I drive, gas has been 124.4 in Halifax for the past week. I just compared it, and usually do on regular basis with various cities, and Halifax almost always has the highest price. There are the the odd times that Montreal and Vancouver go higher but I rarely saw that.
I just checked the TTC website and the price you posted for TTC Pass is incorrect as they don’t actually have a monthly pass. They have a weekly pass and it’s $55, keep in mind it’s a larger city so more transportation is available and more frequent, in addition to the subway that’s available. Please add a subway to Halifax and let’s see how high the price will jump. Toronto on the other hand has a student monthly TTC pass that is priced at $106 a month Our student pass here is $65 compared to $70 for adult. Keep in mind though, which I’m sure if you actually visited and used the services in Toronto, would realize the huge and massive difference and convenience TTC gives it’s users, inlike the HRM Metro that I couldn’t actually use when I worked and attended classes because I just couldn’t. That option wasn’t available and that was going from highfield to Robie street. Not even downtown. That being said, I hope you understand why it’s a bit pricey for their TTC compared to ours.
I took a course this summer and the instructor was from Calgary. His words and I quote “I have no idea how you guys live here, everything is so expensive”. This guy lives in Calgary 24/7. I’ll personally take the word of a Calgary resident over that of someone from Halifax who probably never left the province.
I have a co-worker who had that mentality, that it was heaven here and other places in Canada are way more expensive and I asked her to remove rent and price of homes from the equation and look at just salaries, good and services, and price of everyday life necessities. She, on her own, came to the conclusion that Halifax is by far more expensive that ON after she lived there for several years. According to her and I quote “I always got a return on my income taxes while in ON every year, and now I have to pay in every year since I moved back to NS”.
I have to admit, while living here, I heard so many things that, if it wasn’t for my travels, and thank God I’m able to do that and actually go experience it, I would believe everything I’m told here.
senor, what are stats except ‘lies, lies and damned lies’
mcleans just had ‘violent crime’ which would be murders plus assaults. and it was 2011 stats. i know it’s been a bumper year for murder here.
randomness,
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/count…
i just grabbed it from google, plunk in the city. cost of living sites get input from various sources, including human ones, hence the odd items, like no taxi info in kamloops. i can try some other col sites, see how they differ.
yeah, i guess i need a little more ‘out of province’ experience under my belt, maybe move around a bit, have more than one job/career and home in my young life
halifax doesn’t even appear on the mercer (not related to rick) report for ex-pats, but does have this to say about canada…june 2012
Toronto (61) remains the highest ranking city in Canada, closely followed by Vancouver (63). Montréal (87) has dropped eight places, whereas Calgary (92) has climbed four.
Molly, that’s great.
Have you visited any of the listed cities? Lived there at all? Ever been outside of Canada?
I’m just curious.
I have and know people that still live there that provide me with actual facts.
According to that site you claim that gas price in Halifax is 131. It’s not. That should be one indicator. I looked at the site you posted and, based on living here daily and buying groceries weekly, 75% of that information is incorrect.
I guess it all depends on where you buy your stuff. I can guarantee you on average that cost of living, based on my experience and others that have lived here and moved elsewhere, it’s certainly way less expensive in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary. Power costs less. Internet costs less. Food costs less. On top of that salaries, as op mentioned, are much higher there.
well random, i was trying to keep it on an impartial, not anecdotal basis, but i go both ways if needed. i too have brothers, sisters and friends in other cities and can ask them about the price of milk or a condo, but since they will only be able to give one or two examples, and not a median based on multiple responders as the websites provide, it wouldn’t be a good yardstick on which to judge the cost of living. you want as true a picture as you can get, not just what one or two people can come up based on their own personal buying habits/experiences, wouldn’t you say?
personal experience is highly, highly subjective.
and as you said, it all depends on where you buy your stuff, and the col web sites poll a number of people and then get their median price/cost. if they end up with 1.95 for a litre of milk it doesn’t mean that is the only price for milk. it could range from 175 to 213.
molly, I agree with you but milk is not a good example in this province. We have a provincial law that governs the lowest price for milk. Hence it doesn’t matter where you shop for milk, you are going to get screwed.
Halifax sucks. Move to a real city where they actually allow tall buildings and jobs.
I agree this city and province suck big donkey dicks and if not for my family being so deeply fucked, err. I mean rooted in the community here I’d be gone. 25 years of experience in my industry, no calls, no call backs, no money, no advancement. This city and province are run by such ass backwards incompetent assholes, who spend our money like it was a lottery winning. Serious stop funding every dying business. Thats why it’s called business, you either make it or you don’t! Nobody bailed me out when my business tanked. I simply put put my big boy pants on, licked my wounds and struggled on to the next phase of this shitty existence you call a province.
Molly, so from what I understand from your argument is that you’ve never lived or visited any of these places?
There’s nothing impartial about your argument. The side you’re presenting is that NS is less expensive than any of these places mentioned but you don’t actually have proof or facts to back your argument. That to me is biased.
My argument isn’t biased. I lived in and visited these places and I’ve actually travelled to Central America, middle east, US and all these places are actually less expensive than NS.
I’ve been to the regular average markets and to high end stores. I saw what the average person spends in those areas and in other parts of Canada and they certainly don’t spend as much as we do.
From what I hear is that Halifax Shopping Centre, from an inside source, is forcing a lot of the stores out of mall to make room for high end retail. We’re already seeing a trend right now and you can’t deny that. We have the Mac store there now, Victoria’s Secret, Diesel (Which isn’t really high end anywhere else but for some reason is here), Coach and many others to come. Average people like you and I with average income (I can speak for myself on that one really) will not be able to shop there. I’m not going to dish out $100 or more for a shirt. I just can’t afford to.
Same with groceries. I only get what’s on sale because I can’t afford to pay full price for the items. I can’t pay $3 a lb for apples so I rarely buy them.
I buy bananas at Irving because it’s 20c a lb less than the grocery store. I never go to the farmers market because it’s very expensive.
All you have to do Molly is go to the grocery store and check the price of skinless boneless chicken breast. It’s listed on the site as $11 per kg. Check the price and let me know.
Remember it’s per kg and not per lb.
I know for a fact that my brother living in Toronto, when shopping at Loblaws, which is superstore here, he pays half of what we pay here for meats. He never shops at sobeys there because it’s supposedly for rich people. He also mentioned that Sobeys there is still less expensive than the one here!
You can’t deny that people in other provinces get paid more than we do.
You can’t deny that there are more opportunities there than here.
You just can’t deny those facts because if that wasn’t the care, Nova Scotians wouldn’t be going out west in waves. They wouldn’t be fleeing to ON to make a better life for themselves. They just wouldn’t.
Dont worry everyone ,,,Ships are a comin’ ,,,,,,
We’ll all be livin the dream ,with captain Dexter at the helm of the love boat………
randomness…no. there is no indication in my comment that i have never lived in any of those places. you are guessing that, and quite incorrectly as it happens. what i was arguing is to take the results of hundreds of peoples contribution to the costs and prices of a place, rather than personal experience, which is limited, subjective and worthless as a proper cost of living evaluation.
you sound very unhappy about not being to afford things. that is important to you. and relevant to you, but your situation is not relevant or important to me. and it doesn’t indicate to me in any way that nova scotia ‘sucks’. it’s just your situation. your bias.
my situation is relevant only to me, (irony alert) which is why there is no point to my telling you that my style of living has increased substantially since moving here from vancouver. that my partner’s salary increased dramatically with a nova scotian employer, and for doing much less stressful work. that the commute is so much easier for her. that shopping is now a pleasure instead of a chore. that my daughter’s move from vancouver to halifax also improved her financial situation wonderfully. that she had her choice of job offers, and her benefits and salary and accomodations and transit are so much better here than vancouver. and on and on. i have friends who have moved here as well and are thrilled, absolutely thrilled at the opportunities and better life here.
but……all that is personal and subjective, so i will not use it as argument about cost of living comparison between one place and another.
Ah yes, the ship contract.
What we think we’re getting:
http://www.freakingnews.com/Star-Destroyer…
vs. What we’ll actually wind up with:
http://cl.jroo.me/z3/V/l/s/c/a.aaa.jpg
fuck the boats… what’s that one contract really gonna get us anyways?
it is pricier here.
It just plain sucks here… the best thing we have going is the weather.
What does THAT tell you?
I agree that Halifax’s economy sucks ass, but, I like it here. I like it here because my family is here. It’s not that easy to just pick up and move when you come from such a tight knit family. Especially when the economy sucks so bad for a lot of people so it’s not like it’s easy to find a job to save enough money to move away. I mean, what would be the point of moving away if you had a job that would allow you to save to move away? There’d be no point then!
I think given our shitty economy, the amount of taxes we’re burdened with and the limited earning potential compared to other cities in Canada, Halifax should have some sort of rent control measures. Some of the slums I’ve seen being rented for 900-1000+ for one bedrooms is criminal. If it weren’t for bad luck I’d have no luck at all, but my GOD did I ever get lucky when I found my current apartment.
The bitcher sounds like a moron.
STUDIES IN IMPOTENCE: THE “DISLIKERS”
A quick review of this thread reveals that my post “I’ve Said It Before…” (12/05, 4:15PM) now has attained the lofty status of 12 Likes and 11 Dislikes. It looks to be a near run thing. But what is going on? Why do some “like” it and others “dislike” it? This requires reflection on the comments (or the lack of them) in general before tackling the Like/Dislike categories.
At the bottom of the heap are those who make no comment at all. They read the bitch, read the comments, and either write nothing or assert that they are bored or something to that effect. These can be simply disregarded. Next up the ladder are those who write nothing but just click on Like or Dislike. More about these in a moment. Still further up the scale are those who write a brief and what they hope to be pithy or humorous comment, often with a visual attachment. For the most part they struggle with the written word, probably because they struggle with thought itself. At the top of the heap are those who write grammatical, structured, articulate frequently insightful comments but, of course, these are rare birds, those few among us who must be cherished and applauded. But what about those who just click on Like or Dislike?
The trouble with the Likes is that they are not intellectually challenging. What can you say about them? What is there to say about someone who agrees with you? Well, what about “thank you for your support?” That seems to be about it. There’s nowhere else to go. So that leaves us with the Dislikes. What about them?
Unlike the Likes, the Dislikes have some content. At least they disagree with what you’ve said, and that’s something. But, and this is the crucial point, they are unable to say why they don’t like what you’ve said. But why are they unable to do so? Two possibilities occur: (1) Psychological Pathology and/or (2) a Failure of Intellect.
(1) Psychological Pathology: These are the individuals who, for various reasons of their own, hate the commenter. There were 11 of them on “I’ve Said It Before…” They know who they are. But they are unable to say why they don’t like what you’ve written as a consequence of some deep-seated pathological hostility they bear for you. All one can do is to recommend visiting a mental health care professional. These are the “crazies”.
(2) A Failure of Intellect: This is probably the more frequent of the Dislikes. They are unable to write grammatical, structured, articulate – to say nothing of insightful – comments. This is the result of their failure of intellect. They lack a mind. But – and this is important – they know this. They possess sufficient intelligence to know that they are failures. They know that they are impotent. All that remains for them is to click on the Dislike icon, the equivalent of intellectual masturbation.
Sad, very sad.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
I recently moved to Ontario, not really by choice but I’ll be back by the summer. I have to say the region I’m in has just as much, if not more unemployment then NS. Almost every factory has been closed, even the auto industry is almost dead. I can say that my groceries are alot cheaper here. But my power and water bills are almost twice what I paid in NS. There are cost of life differences in every city, its very subjective. But what I find we save on one expense, we spend more on another. I honestly don’t see how anyone thinks Ontario is cheaper, we pretty much break even on the cost of life differences every month between the two provinces. The grass is never greener on the other side, it’s just another shade of green. If you don’t like Halifax then leave, then you can find the problems in your “new city”, and say how much better Halifax is.
As someone who moved from Ontario to NS and who worked in the grocery industry both places, I can tell you across the board that groceries here cost at least 30% more than in Ontario. Rent has skyrocketed because of this supposed ship deal with no increase in wages to make up for it. Piss-poor shitholes in bad neighbourhoods now cost as much as a decent place in the core less 2 years ago. Power is way more expensive here than cities that have publicly-owned utilities and would have been across the board had it not been for the McGuinty Liberals in Ontario forcing so many municipalities to privatize their utilities. Payroll and income taxes are higher here than anywhere in the country and there are fewer deductions you can claim on your taxes. I lost $800 on my tax return for having the misfortune to live here for one month at the end of a year where the first 11 were spent in Ontario.
Everything the OP said is right, the comment about women was unfortunate but in some ways accurate if you read the whole comment and realize the type of women s/he’s referring to. The people writing back hate and denial are the reason that none of these circumstances get better. It’s great that you like to live here, too bad you don’t like it so much that you’d be willing to fight to make it better. Liquor prices are INSANE here and the people are getting nothing back from the government to compensate for the criminal tax rates. Making moonshine at home is not the answer, I’m sorry, that’s just not a dignified solution and to use that as an excuse for why people shouldn’t give a fuck that the government is marking up liquor 6-fold is pathetic and pure cowardice. Why complain when we can drink moonshine and smoke native cigarettes, right?
And yes I know unemployment is rampant across the country – everyone knows that – but it sure is easier for someone who is forced to work below their skill level for minimum wage to make it and live with a little dignity in a one-bedroom apartment in other provinces than it is here.
LOL “taxes”
You could follow your own advice and do something about it, run for office, enter the political world, or take a swan dive off either bridge.
REFLECTIONS ON THE WORD “FUCK”
“Why does no one give a fuck?” Fuck
Ordinarily of course the word “fuck” is a vulgar synonym for sexual intercourse but its common usage seems to have drifted far from its basic meaning. The fact is that it has drifted so far away as to be meaningless in its original sense. In broadening the range of its connotative applications, “fuck” has taken on a life of its own to the point where it has become an object of serious study.
Take the title of this bitch. To say that “No one gives a fuck” means that no one cares about about whatever is being discussed, in the present case the lassitude of the citizens of Halifax. They just don’t give a fuck. While it might be interpreted in its sexual sense – one could after all conceivably give someone a fuck – it has ceased to have any connection with sexual intercourse. Further, the expression has only a negative connotation, never a positive one. One never says, for example, “I give a fuck.” It wouldn’t make sense. One would say, in response that the speaker was “fucked up,” meaning that he was confused or unable to understand what he was talking about.
Moreover, the present-participle form of fuck is usually used for emphasis. In response to someone who said “I give a fuck” one might say that the speaker “Doesn’t know what he is fucking talking about.” The modifier “fucking” here adds nothing of substance to the assertion but serves rather to just emphasize the fact that the speaker doesn’t know what he is talking about. The present-participle usage of fuck is extremely fucking widespread.
Then there is the reflexive construction as in saying, “Go fuck yourself.” While this is obviously a physical impossibility the reflexive usage is nevertheless is quite common in certain circles such as the Halifax Underclass. It is meant as a rough insult. It is difficult to think of a suitable rejoinder. What does one reply when told, “Go fuck yourself?” A good question.
So the word “fuck” and its variations go to make up a considerable part of the speech of the vocabulary of the lower orders. In this time in which class distinctions are being rightfully eroded it may be time to bring “fuck” into the mainstream lexicon. I think we’ve made a start here, taken the first fucking step you might say, in that direction.
A fucking pleasure as always.
Cheerio!