Hopefully berating a panhandler on SGR this morning made you feel like a real man. Buddy was just asking for some change, if you aren’t going to help him out, why not just keep walking or say ‘no’?
Instead, you launched into a tirade about how you “have a company” and “hire people to work”. Followed by a accusatory interrogation of the panhandler as to why he wasn’t working for money…
Maybe he’s disabled? Maybe he has a mental illness/addiction or gambling problem? Maybe he’s just a lazy brat. Either way, it’s not your job to publicly judge without knowing the story. The panhandler was respectful and polite – unlike yourself.
I’m sure your fat ugly wife was impressed… I don’t know how she could even keep her hands off you, what with the killer Canadian Tuxedo you were rocking to match your white handlebar moustache!—Sick of loud mouths like you
This article appears in Apr 8-14, 2010.
Canadian Tux?
You know I can’t walk around Halifax anymore with at least half a dozen “bums” asking for change. I’m a student paying my way through university, I was laid off an can’t seem to find another job, either so I don’t know how this summer is going to pan out. I’m not going to sit on the curb like a lazy fuck and ask for handouts.
Those asking for change can fuck off. I’m sick of it, everywhere I go, someone wants something for nothing. I support telling these leeches to fuck off.
Argh… ok now I sound like an internet tough guy. Ok, I don’t care, it annoys me.
No Reverend Jim, you sound like someone suffering from compassion fatigue and you sure as hell aren’t alone.I’m not going to deal with the Halifax urban myths like whether or not Liquor Store Pirate drives a caddy, or Dirty Rasputin commutes from Clayton park. I’ve been hit up by young dolts with I-pods, skateboards, Rottweilers and horking big bags of Freak candy. I work 2 jobs and I don’t have these things. My sister-in-law’s response is to tell them “You’re young and healthy, get out there and sell your body” but she’s a tippler so you probably should judge that accordingly. From now on I’m telling them to fucking well ask Graham Steal, he’s got all my fucking spare change and then some.
it’s otay mr. fish some people run the gauntlet…it’s the over reaction to a small thing that the op is speaking of
scuse me folks, but can you give me 2 cents, so that i could really give a fuck about this bitch. boing.
Torn… between… hatred for loudmouths… and beggers….drajhfd…dsj…sdjgr…..
Why do people have the need to control nameless, hard-luck strangers so much so that what they do or not not do actually fucks their day? There’s no need to get your shit in a knot when the answer is simpley NO. Confrantation skills, people! Get some.
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Contribute. That’s what the comment box is for.
wait, what’s so funny?
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Not to your standards of execution? Your problem, not mine.
Do I seem worried? That title has already been claimed and you are welcome to it!
Wish I was there to give the guy a standing ovation after putting the piece of shit, pain in the ass, bugging everybody, twit in his place.
Imagine asking a person for directions and receiving a full blown rant about owning a map just to find the ranter owns a fucking map and is simply unwilling to share. Just say no then please fuck off like a civilized person would!
Can the HRM become anymore psychotic and antisocial than it is now? What a fuckin’ hole and it’s NOT the beggars that make it that way. Perhaps you should all imagine your opinions similar to the “message” of religion and shut your fuckin’ pie-hole unless somebody says they give a shit.
“in his place” and where is that, Bro Tim? On the street where the guy was begging from? Do you really think the result of a public “berating” will result in the creation of a “new man”, an insta-grown-up or even provide motivation for a person to heal themselves or take steps to improve their shitty lives?… as if you really care? You don’t! Just shut up and move on! Maybe if you were the guy’s mommy but, since you’re not, such a response to a beggar is arrogant, pompous and downright MEAN in addition to being entirely ineffective. All the guy did was ask a question deserving of a simple answer or none at all. The guy the OP speaks of “kicked” the guy while he was down for what? To impress his fat, ugly wife? Are girls really impressed by a fat, berating mouth?
Despite what they teach in Nova Scotian elementary schools bullying is NOT attractive nor desirable behaviour. In fact, it’s quite uncivilized. It’s not your place, your job, your responsibility, your vocation, your right, your ANYTHING to demean or punish a perfect stranger on the street who has dared communication with you. It doesn’t make you smarter, better, prettier, richer, or a more valued member of society. It makes you a simple, not special, typical, common HRM BULLY easy for reasonable people to hate and nothing more.
All this sort of communication among strangers does is spread SHIT. Take a good long whiff of that street! There’s ENOUGH shit on the streets of the HRM!! Which of you will change that? Which of you sees the NEED to change that?
Tolerance… Kindness…. Empathy… that sort of thing… Now THAT’S something to go out of your way to spread on unsuspecting souls that requires COURAGE so why don’t you collectively “man up” and behave as civilized people? You just might change the world for the BETTER!
And on a slightly related topic , just who the hell thought it was a good idea to give musical instruments to the friggin’ Krishnas. Repeating rifles, sure. Orange togas infected with smallpox – absolutely. But instruments? Oh, we will pay in heavy coin for this short sightedness, my friends. Yes we will.
On Saturday, by that street of shops besides the Olands Brewery, a guy asked me “If I had any change?”.
I said “yes I do”
I didn’t give him any.
BUT
He didn’t ask for any.
What ?
Am I suppose to read his mind & then give him money ?
In my mind, he should be reading my mind & then knowing , I’m not giving the damn stuff away… well at least not to him, my daughter hit me up for a ‘loan’ yesterday… I’ve lost count at how large that loans gotten to , but 7 grand would be close, since she’s moved out on her own !
That’s cheaper than when she lived at home ~8)
if dudes asking for change bugs you, here’s a real easy way to deal with it, works everytime: ignore them and keep walking. sheesh, people.
halifax is not that bad. try living in downtown toronto. you get used to ignoring people real quick!
tell them “the only difference between me and you is the spare change in my pocket” then keep walking.
I heard someone use that and it shut the guy right up. lol
Don’t you EVER wonder WTF is wrong with you, Fat? I don’t.
No, I’m too busy asserting that my shit smells like Febreeze and Air Wicks.
Maybe OP is sick and fucking tired of not being able to walk down the street without being asked to hand over money to support those who, often times, is perfectly capable of getting a fucking job.
I understand your reasoning for this bitch, OP, but your naivety kind of kills me at the same time.
I’ll bet the OP is perfectly capable of choosing a different kind of neighbourhood to live in too.
The person could have just called the police and reported the panhandler. Last weekend the police were making them move….congrats to the officers. The panhandlers bring down the entire area.
I applaud this guy for doing what he did. Maybe he has been asked one two many times for his change he has worked hard for. After awhile you get sick of it. I am all for giving to the less fortunate but there are places you can donate. By giving to panhandlers you are only encouraging them to keep doing it. Mama9 you hit it right on the nail.
I am happy you Idiots do not live in Montreal or Toronto. For fuck sakes people, have you ever been to a REAL city?! You think that the few bums and panhandlers we have in Halifax are a problem?!?! In Toronto you cannot go half a block without being asked for money twenty times. Is it really such a problem to just say no and keep going? Fuck some of you need a fucking life! If a guy asking you for change upsets you taht fucking much then you seriously need help!! Valium maye? As for buddy in the tuxedo, he was probably just upset because all his money goes to the pig wife and her KFC habit.
Bobby33 – If by you mean a “real city” with even more pan-handlers your absolutley right we are glad too that we don’t live there.
I think Halifax is worse than Toronto. SGR has far more panhandlers/block than most of the busiest streets in Toronto (Yonge, Bay, Queen, King, Dundas, University, College, Spadina, Front). There’s a lot more homeless people in Toronto per block, but most of them aren’t asking for change.
Starting on Robie and SGR, there’s the guy in front of the Tim’s, there’s usually one on the corner by the lord nelson, then one by Oasis, and another by the Tim’s on the corner and another across the street by the drug store. Then there’s often one by Rogues and a few down by the Library. So, in the span of a 5-10min walk you have about 7 panhandlers.
In Toronto I could walk the same distance down any of the above streets and I would get hit up for change maybe 2-3 times. I’d see a lot more homeless people minding their own business, but not hitting me up for change.
I have to agree with Miles on that one . Way more panhandlers in Hali then say T.O. and calgary . I walk downtown in calgary and hardly get asked as much in three blocks as I do back home .
Either way . Since Kay supports all panhandlers – she and others are the reason they DO panhandle., Because they don’t need to support themselves because people just keep on giving to them . By the way – half these tards aren’t homeless anyways .
Maybe berating the street trash wasn’t nice . But if you constantly beg for change on the streets , you risk someone having had enough of the bullshit and shitting on you because of it . Beg away I say , but , be aware not all people are going to take kindly to it and not want to support your crack,booze,sniffing addiction and strip one of you .
Weedhog:
I guess it depends on where in Calgary or TO you hang out – I found it WAY worse i the big smoke than here…
I think that it’s more likely that Halifax has a limited number of “dense” streets, not that it has “less” panhandlers – that seems unlikely.
They’re just more concentrated here. The fact that you can identify and number them is telling in itself.
Homeless folks in the biiger cities may well be less likely to ask for change…is that because they know they’re walking a thinner line between being able to sit on the sidewalk in peace, and being ushered on for harassment?
In the news down south of the border is a possible by-law in San Fransisco, of all places, outlawing sitting or laying on the pavements…
If this bylaw passes, it will be the direct result of aggresive panhandlers…not the “passive” ones, (those simply sitting with a cup, or a sign) or the buskers etc
I think sitting with a cup is fine, but I dislike the permitting of pro-active ‘aggressive’ hobos and stumble-bums -not for myself – but for the negative effect on older folks, tourism etc.
You want some change? Sit down, shut up and maybe I’ll put some money in your cup ( I do)…but you need to keep out of my personal space…I’ve borne witness to too much unpredictable behaviour from homo-sapiens to be comfortable with being “approached” as I’m striding along, thanks…I just don’t trust you.
It’s sad, but it’s true as well…
I suppose thats true gidget. But one watering hole i like to go to seems to be on a now defunct “crack corner ” left for bums . And the next one is about 10 blocks up the road. I don’t drink and drive so i usually walk up them blocks. But there isn’t that many people asking for change – even with the benches full of “homeless” or drunks .
I guess in comparison , walking from Tom’s Cabana to Oasis I likely think I have been asked more times then in calgary walking even more blocks.
What it is , I think , is Hali’s (our) compassion to help people out and actually hand a buck or two over to someone to help out . When people actually see someone loosing it on a bum back there – it actually shocks them abit . Just an observance . I know around here people just tell the bums to get the fuck outta their face before they get tossed infront a bus or train.
That’s exactly what I was getting at Frosty. There are only a few streets in Halifax where panhandling would be profitable and I’m sure that accounts for the increased density on those streets. Also, TO does have the aggressive panhandling laws which may have had an effect on keeping some of the more noticeable panhandlers off the streets there in recent years.
Never thought of that BMF – awesome point there on the density thing .
The panhandlers who berate you for not giving are real pips.
I just say “No thank you”.
I do have certain thoughts about street begging but choose not to utter them.
Failing to embarrass my SO and everybody around me by publicly chewing out a panhandler and “supporting” the panhandler are two completely different things, hog. Smarten up. If anything I support an individual’s right to freedom. Sure, I’ll talk to them, I might even have a buck or two for them. Who the fuck am I to judge them? Who are you? We’re ALL people dealt different cards. Just like the pub server does not create an alcoholic providing spare change if you have any does not create a panhandler, fuckwit. It just happens to make a significant difference in their already shitty day so make it better or fuck off.
Frosty. you seem to want it both ways. First you say at least a busker is providing something to me and may warrant my change but now you say sit down, shut up and maybe I’ll put change in your cup. Need is need. Ingenuity is something not evenly bestowed upon the needy so be careful when you pick and chose.
How discouraging Daddy tells us where we can sit on city street and what we can do there and you “free thinking” bitches support it. What a fucked up thing democracy is turning out to be. Exchanging church/parents/personal values for government-pleasing behaviors. We don’t NEED gov’t for this. We just need to act like civilized human beings 100% of the time.
Do any of you really think if a panhandler lucked out and had the resources they needed that they actually prefer to beg you for change? Yeah, there are a few who don’t really need but, please, get a grip while playing so happily in your stereotypical BULLSHIT. It’s starting to smell.
I am not judging bums I just don’t feel obligated to support them in anyway. I support an individuals right to freedom as well but I choose the right to keep MY MONEY!
~If they want money they have the freedom to get their own job and not sponge off others that DO work.
~Their are programs in place for these people, they have the freedom to access them.
Kay there are better ways of helping the homeless then giving your change. Change will normally not go on what they actually NEED
1. Give clothing to charity
2. Food Bank
3. Household Items
4. Give to Hope Cottage or charity etc
5. Give them a job….bet most won’t take it.
I get some people have been dealt shitty cards but You have to want to help yourself before anyone else can help you.
kay again I ask you to offer a street person a job, either with your company or personally and see what their reaction is. If they are so down on their luck, they would be happy to be offered a job.
Who the fuck are you to say what another person needs? Imagine going to DQ, ordering an iced cream and they give you a carrot instead insisting that’s what you want because that’s what’s good for you. GO FUCK YOUR HAT!!!!!! Sometime people want iced cream and sometimes they ask for money so they can get what they ACTUALLY want but hey, if you’re hungry you’ll eat the carrot. Again GO FUCK YOUR HAT. You don’t get to think for me or them. You don’t get to be God, mommy or gov’t even. Take your judgement and just keep it in your face is what the bum should have said.
Go fuck your hat? Proof that you’re a simpleton, kay. Keep paddling backwards =)
I see kay can’t stand it when she is put on the spot. Are you saying that we should give these people money for nothing? Sorry babe, if I want money, I have to do it the old fashion way. I earn it. You think people work at jobs because they are glamourous, or high paying or because they love it? Nope, people work to do crazy things like put a roof over their heads, food, and clothing.
Well that’s very good for YOU, Bro. However, your crafty solution for getting the things you want in your life are not a one-size-fits-all solution. Not everybody wants what you want. Some would prefer to drink alone in the rain. You don’t have to support it but you certainly have no right to tell people how to live nor to scold them for their choices. If their choices don’t work for you and you don’t want to get involved… awesome! Don’t. Keep it to yourself.
I have a friend with an anxiety disorder. It seems stupid to the healthy person that one should avoid answering the door, picking up the phone or going out when there’s people in the hall… I mean, when you have to go out that’s what you do, right? Simple. Right? I’ll tell ya, my friend requires medication, therapy and ongoing help to get out that fucking door. Imagine telling that person they’ll have to contend with that door every single day and work or they deserve a spanking… FROM YOU! MANY of the faces you see begging for your change started that way, got kicked by people like you and now drink to calm their anxiety for lack of proper health care. And that’s just a mild case of a wealth of mental health issues that can see people self-medicating and self-destructing on the street. Fuck you for kicking them while they’re down, you pompous motherfucker.
So, what are you talking about, Bro? “On the spot”? I know what happens when you pressume to know what’s good for somebody and actually open your yap to them. I explained citing the DQ example. Not good enough for ya? Too far over your head? Don’t get it? Do you prefer carrots? I think you do.
You should know nobody has ever taken care of me and I’m all good with that. So good, in fact, I count myself lucky I’m able to help others… and do. You should try it. Any ol’ bum will tell ya kindness, tolerance and compassion doesn’t hurt. It helps. It heals… unlike unsolicited advice, jobs presented that they’ll fail at and insults… those things hurt.
Do you want to hurt, help or just mind your own business? There is a correct answer to this question in a civilized world.
So kay you’re not willing to help any of the street people by offering them a job. Be honest you don’t care. The only street people I care about are those that were released from or belong mental health hospitals unable to take care of themselves. Thanks bleeding heart liberals that put them in danger.
Of course she doesn’t, Bro. All she does is want to read her name on a blog and argue just so she thinks she’s onto something or convince herself that she’s right.
I ran into Desi at Reflections the other night and he told me that kay had a soap box placed in every room of their house so she can ramble about different things to different audiences. Apparently when Desi’s taking a dump, kay’s in the bathroom on her soapbox rambling about herself. Somehow she ends up in the toilet every time.
One thing I’ve noticed is the increase in panhandlers in the past 4-5 years in Hfx.
I remember being in Ottawa for summer 2006 and seeing panhandlers around the rideau centre and on bank street closer to wellington. People would just pass by and ignore them. They weren’t aggressive by any means (most were just sad looking — sitting on the ground asking for change — though some weren’t). You could tell they were homeless because of the look in their eye. I don’t know how to describe it, but it wasn’t something you could fake. I wondered why so many people would just pass by them and ignore them, or how you could ignore anyone who needs help like that.
And then I came back to Hfx and the next summer I was bombarded by HRM’s own “special brand” of panhandler, and i gotta say: I know why people ignore the bums in Ottawa. They are just too many and especially here, I’d venture to say at least 60-70% of them are big fat fakers. I just walk by and ignore them now. Usually if I’m alone I’ll have my ipod on or if I’m with someone I just keep talkign to the person I’m with. It might sound cold, but I”m just sick and tired of being asked for money by the same people every effing time I walk down SGR.
And now they’re trolling around BLIP (lacewood/chainlake where the first set of lights is to get on the highway). Ugh.
Side note: let is GO, NGF. We all know kay is a tard, but your constant need to find SOMETHING (ANYTHING) about kay to bitch about is getting sad and pathetic. Move on and find something else to post about ffs.
fuck panhandlers.they are a goddamn disgrace.with no sense of pride, or dignity.if they had any, they would choose the correct course of action for themselves
I work on SGR and I can tolerate the regulars, but I will not donate. However, it is the new younger ones being trained in this profession that pisses me off. Some are popping over from school during lunch time to give it a try.
If you want to help, give up your roll-up the rim to win donuts and coffee.
I’m quite sure there’s a panhandling union. They provide cellphones.
Yeah, PK, it’s right up there with that ridiculous thread about the red head in a comp lab.
yea senor it’s fucking outta control in Vancouver i just sat no to EVERYONE no exceptions period heard it all bye bye now
Yes, Van is outta control and has been for years. Hali is only starting. Get used to it. We are the urban centre of the Maritimes, and it’s way tougher to make a living here than other parts of Canada. We are a port city as well, and this country is not getting any smaller population wise. Be kind to those on the street, even with the smallest gesture, most are there for some reason and I’m sure their self esteem/mental state sucks which, really, doesn’t allow for more forward plans. Many are on disability, which usually means they can’t work, or on welfare or old age pension and just trying to make ends meet. Poverty and homelessness is not a high priority in our society. Why is that? There is enough for everyone, but you have to have the money or you perish. How do people who haven’t the capability to earn money survive? They hit the streets. What would you do if that was you? Don’t be so sure you won’t end up there, we all have the potential to fall through the cracks, for whatever reason, and Life’s like that…
Hey Fat, Desi’s right here with me… out of province. Just so you know you’ll not be seeing him in any Nova Scotian HOLES.
Bro, you must really like to be told to eat carrots when you’ve asked for ice cream. WHY is this concept so far over your head? You don’t kow what’s good for anybody except maybe for you and yours. Nobody died and named you Dictator Supreme despite what your luck and your ego tells you so just leave street people alone. If they were capable of holding down a job that’s what they’d be asking for, not for your change.
sixxes, no dignity? Their problems don’t stop there. Just keep looking down your long nose assuming whatever suits your own ego. You’d be surprised how, for example, that dirty street bum lacking resources and dignity once held a VP position at a Fortune 500 company… until his kid was killed in a crosswalk. You know nothing about how the daily liquorfest prevents him from killing himself. Yes, there are ways to help yourself but some aren’t ready or capable of being well and this particular street bum would tell Bro what he can do with his shitty job. Everybody needs help sometimes. Has nobody ever helped you up after you’ve fallen down? Has nobody ever sat on the ground with you willing to wait until you’re ready to get up?
Compassion people. Not judgement. God will sort them out… and you too.
What a kaytard. Offering a person a job is a hand up.
But then maybe we shoulld just give these people million dollar homes and free reign in supermarkets, restaurants, stores, etc. But what will they do? Jingle their Tim’s cup.
AGAIN:
You can’t help someone if they don’t want to help themselves.
Kay you must donate your paycheck to the needy do you?
Desi must have had his affair of the day before or after kay posted her billionth post. Keep on trying, kay, you’ll be the #1 poster again shortly. Just continue proving why you have no life.
i help those that help themselves.that fellow who sells that homeless mag.i buy it when i see it.
everybody is where they are in life because of the decisions they have made.i feel nothing for those that blame everything else but themselves and whine about their problems that everyone else has.begging for pity like a dog,these people that live off pity are useless,and should be treated accordingly.
i would never end up like them.i have enough pride to do whats right. if i ever ended up like a dog,begging for scrapes because i am to pathetic to sustain my own existence i do not deserve to exist.
i deal with my problems head on.on my own.blame is bullshit all that matters are solutions to problems
listen, no matter what your beliefs are about panhandling etc….the people who are disabled etc, are still getting jobs!!! I can recall after being out on the lam one night stopping into a mcdonalds where GASP…the disabled were working behind the counter for a make work initiative. Lo and behold we had some “disabled” farm hands etc. This is a LIFESTYLE!!! I have been poor, and it sucked ultra hard because my family is well off. I couldnt stomach the thought of asking dad and mum for a spare dime, so what did i do, got as many jobs as i could, farming, working at a club, lot boy at a car dealership, car wash cleaner. It was hard but I survived. That is what these panhandlers cannot/will not wrap their heads or sink their teeth into. I want to adopt all of their dogs so their dogs dont have to be embarassed of their owners.