This rant is for all the girls out there who have been led on by a guy downtown.
I was out on Saturday night, and I met a guy who seemed interested in me. He even stayed to talk to me while his friends left the bar. We were at the bar til they closed, to the point where we were actually being told to walk to the door and leave the bar. Before we left, he asked if he could get my number, and then gave me his, and told me to text him.
We continued to talk outside for awhile, then walked (with my friends too) up to another bar where we found out his friends were. My girls and I weren’t sure if we wanted to go in, but he went in to find his friends, saying “text me, okay?” before he went in. We went in a few minutes later, ended up seeing him in there and he saw me but didn’t come over. Later on I texted him a few times, all short replies from him….. I texted him again yesterday and no response…. what’s the deal??
I know alcohol was involved, but he knew what was going on.
If you weren’t that interested, then fine! Just don’t ask for my number….you’re not doing me any favours!
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This article appears in Oct 1-7, 2009.
Yeah, men are notorious for pulling this shit. They’re all chatty and shit at first and seem interested then for no apparent reason just disappear. You’re right — if they’re not interested just fucking TELL us or indicate in some way so we won’t waste our time. The time wasting is what pisses me off — I could care less about the not being interested part.
Maybe I’m just in a man-hating mood today, but if you’re doing all the work (i.e.: texts to HIM even though his responses were short) then move on. If he’s interested he can either a) come over and talk to you, or b) text YOU with something more than “lol” or “nice” or “ok” or whatever. After one text with a short answer I would’ve just not even bothered texting him again, especially since he didn’t come over to see you.
I TOTALLY agree with your rant! What is up with “guy’s” these days….if that’s what we (as women) should even call them anymore. Maybe just ignorant assholes will do!
Maybe he got the vibe that you weren’t going to put out and moved on to his next target. Probably better that he didn’t reply to your text since he seems like a douchebag anyway. You don’t want a guy like that… Cheer up and don’t try to pick up downtown anymore.
I did have a laugh at this story though. Obviously the guy was only looking for one thing and when he realized it wasn’t going to happen, he looked for the fastest way onto his next victim.
Oh give me a fucking break, did you get in with a fake I.D. or something? Having some chick/guy give a fake number is the oldest dodge in the books.
FFS, even Seinfeld had a subplot about it.
Hahaha thank you for your comment, but no I am not young – just tired of the BS… and no it was not a fake number, he did reply several times.
My point was, don’t ask for my number in the first place. Just say “nice to meet you” and leave… don’t waste my time
And women never ever do this. Riiiiggghhhtt.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! YES!! This is awesome!! SOOOOOOOOO FUCKING AWESOME!!!
I love this whole bullshit drama that both guys and girls bitch about. “He so lead me on”. “She was so leading me on”. AHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Pathetic. What the fuck do you expect when you meet a guy at a fucking bar?
PK: I’m sure you’ve never had a guy feel like you wasted his time either. It’s a two way street that is frequented by both sexes.
Rose43: Bingo! My sentiments exactly. But of course, these girls who complain about these types of guys, will never change their “type” and will continue to try to meet the “hot” guys at the bar and continue to end up meeting douchebags. It’s as certain as death and taxes.
Thank you ‘Bro Tim’ and ‘Never Wrong’ for pointing out this very obvious double standard. In my (somewhat limited and perhaps sad) experience it has mostly been women who have done this far more than men – if there is a girl coming on to me who I’m not interested in I am usually straight up and honest with her and don’t lead her on, but then of course I’m seeing it from a guy’s perspective. I find that women tend to lead guys on more often, try to get a few free drinks out of us, waste our time, then don’t want anything to do with us and we’re left with nothing at the end of the night. Maybe I’m just not cool or hot enough. Let’s face it though, bars and clubs are not the places to meet a potential long-term partner. Most guys are just looking for a nice piece of ass and most girls are just looking for a cool, popular stud who can dance, dress well, and has money.
Just this very same past weekend in fact, I was chatting to this one girl for pretty much the whole night who seemed cool, almost went home with her but didn’t, she gave me her number, I texted her (ONCE) and haven’t heard anything back, but know what? Who cares! No point wasting time on people like this, there are almost 7 billion people on this planet to choose from.
I could go on, but I won’t.
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Let me get this straight. Last month, you guys were saying you just want to buy us a drink–no strings attached (Frosty and all of you head-nodders). Now, you are saying we are wasting your time if we take the drinks and give nothing in return–we’re using you. But, when we protested that we don’t take your drinks because we know that they are not actually free, you called us uptight and paranoid. Why don’t you make up your minds? Drink signals agreement for potential sex or not? It would save a lot time and money (for you) if you would just admit that you hope the price of a drink will buy you something that you cannot afford to pay full price for.
I don’t remember that one to be honest, HKM. Of course everyone is going to have their different opinions on it. Usually though, if a guy wants to buy you a drink, there will, of course, be something behind it. Maybe make it clear to the guy if you’re not looking for that – unless you really just want a free drink and don’t mind leading him on (I know girls who do this). It sucks for us, but hey, that’s just part of the whole game. Even lie to us and tell us you have a boyfriend if you want – even I see through it sometimes, but at the same time I don’t get upset about it or call them out because I realize it’s just a nicer way of saying “I’m not into you and nothing’s going to happen.”
On the other hand, I don’t mind having a half-decent conversation with a woman even if it doesn’t lead to anything. It’s just that usually, of course I want it to lead to something.
Never Wrong: I’m sorry, but this time you are…. I am not a certain “type” of girl, and I don’t look for the “hot” guys at the bar. When I go out to a bar with my friends, it’s never with the sole intention of meeting someone. I go out because I like live music, dancing, and having a few drinks and chatting with my girlfriends.
Unlike what ‘qpmz..’ said, I would never ever try to get a free drink out of a guy, especially if I wasn’t interested… believe me.. I can afford the 5 little dollars. If I got a guy to buy me a drink I would feel like I had to stick around and talk to him for a long time – like I owed him something… no thanks!
Never Wrong: You can slam me for meeting a guy at a bar all you want… but I’m not talking about the Palace and the Dome here… those places I’d have it comin’ to me. Any of the decent bars out there have decent girls like me going to them, so I just figure there must be some decent guys there too. Where do you suggest, POF or e-harmony? Again, no thanks. If you’re lucky enough to have a significant other and you met them by-chance like in the movies, then congratulations. For many of us who have good jobs, work hard, and just want to go somewhere to relax during our free-time, there aren’t a heck of a lot of options.
qpmzwonxeibcruv:
“In my (somewhat limited and perhaps sad) experience it has mostly been women who have done this far more than men”
What’s your frame of reference?
go to the woods thats where i met my hubby…no he is not a bear but thats his nickname
it’s a game, silly girl. my friend spent alllllll night getting this bartender to go home with him and she finally agreed, went to get her purse and he peaced before she even turned around all the way. its.a.game.
OK, I’m just going to go ahead and be dumb here… what exactly do you mean by “frame of reference”? I’m guessing you mean what locations?
I have given totally bogus phone numbers out. But only after I continued to say I don’t want to give out my phone number, and the man continue to hound me.
And, I have taken phone numbers that I had no attention of using, for the same reason as above.
I never take drinks from men, but that doesn’t stop them from buying them…and getting angry when you refuse to drink them.
And, I can count on one hand the times that a man sent over a drink (or a flower) but did not follow it over.
intention = )
No. To compare how many girls lead guys on, with how many guys leads girls on, don’t you have to have both experiences in order to compare the two?
paingirl, you went to the woods to meet your mate. How did that go?
You heard a bird watcher imitating a Loon and went to make chitchat? You were powerwalking down the path and some man pulled you into his arms? You were hunting and you mistook him for an animal and grazed him with a bullet?
How do you meet a mate in the woods?
i worked in a resort he was a watron i was the breakfast cook…no guns but lots a critters
A bear-like woodsman in a uniform who protects the forest and animals…nice = )
Of course I see it from a man’s perspective (I remember a similar conversation we had about this about a month ago… ohh no!), but at the same time I observe, and have seen more girls lead guys on than the other way around. Like I said, if there’s a girl I’m not interested in I will not lead her on, and most of my male friends are the same way. Why would I? I don’t like games, I really really don’t.
Generally, of course, this really depends on who you are: if you’re a very attractive female, or an attractive male with good personality and confidence who dresses well, is at least six feet tall, knows how to dance, has a good job and money, and drives a nice car, you generally won’t have much of a problem attracting whoever you want to be with. For the rest of us though, especially men since it is still us 95% of the time who need to do the pursuing, it’s a whole different story.
Anyway, I guess that’s just the way it is, and I know that if I don’t like it, no one is forcing me to be with anyone. If only I was asexual and wouldn’t have to deal with this bullshit!
HKM I agree with pretty much everything you said. Of course you shouldn’t have to give out your number or accept a drink if you don’t want to and no guy should get pissed off at you for doing so. I’m really not like that myself though and back off as soon as I know a woman is not interested, but on the other hand, I’ve seen guys rejected by a girl pretty much all night and then go home with them in the end because of their persistence. Saltpeter is apparently a myth by the way, but I’ve also read that liquorice helps to reduce sex drive, so I’m just waiting for the next sale at Superstore to stock up, haha.
One more thing to add: I know that there would be plenty of men who wouldn’t lead you on, would love to see you again and treat you very well, but most women don’t want or even notice those types of guys! Yes, it’s the whole “Nice guys finish last, girls always go for jerks” thing. Shall we get started on that? I don’t know, it could get heated.
qpmzwonxeibcruv, I don’t know about other women, but I rarely went for the type you are talking about. I mean, they may be nice to hang off your arm for a dinner function or some such thing, but to develop a relationship with them is rarely wise.
I did meet a perfect match (chemistry-wise) once–you might know what I mean: get anywhere near him and bang–hot, magnetic energy overtakes you, everything starts melting (guys get hard, girls melt), legs go wobbly, hands shake, and you can’t think of anything but mouths, hands, skin and slippery sweat. But, I walked away (even though he looked like a Greek sculpture of Adonis) because I knew that he had little depth, his values differed from mine, and he had a skanky history. Also, the few dates we went on, there were actually girls who would walk over to him (in front of me) and ask him to go home with them (no drink buying needed). Even my (ex) friend chased him shamelessly. I didn’t need the headaches involved. So, although he was beautiful, I wanted something else more. I wanted a nice guy = )
When did buying a girl a drink become synonymous as an agreement for sex? If most guys think like this, all the power to women that “use them”. A drink is a courtesy, a hello, a hey.
there are a few good guys here, right miles,q, and self.
I have to say I was surprised this bitch was written by a woman. It sounds like a typical male complaint down to the last letter, only with the pronouns switched around. Then again having long left the dating scene behind, what do I know 😛 Honestly it sounds like Life on Mars to me, at this point. Sigh.
The bar scene is rough. I am glad I have a lovely girlfriend now and don’t have to play that shit no more.
I never bought a stranger girl a drink, I didn’t play that game. I was broke too, but that is irrelevant. I was surrounded by feminist girls all day at university so I said fuck that, you want to be treated equal, buy your own goddamn drink. Russia, Japan, HALIFAX you can have all the equality you want, you can have a 2-4 of equality with a hitchhiker of homology.
One girl started freaking just when I said hi, going on about this that and the other, I said look woman, all I did is say hi and you are freaking out like you have just been placed in an Amsterdam torture garden with 13 blokes jizzing on you, all with beards.
Coming home late one night with a little miss princess we stopped at a late night eatery close to her house, I made the rookie mistake and ordered a (WGHAM) Whoopie Goldberg Huge Ass Meal meal. Now, whatever, she had pumpkin pie and a glass of liquor and it was all good, but walking home I was stuffed, I was supposed to be stuffing her. So we go home and I can in the bathroom to chuck me silly guts up and her stupid roommate was on toilet (with the biggest granny panties ever made hanging round her ankles) so she freaks. Couple minutes later I upchucked and then brushed my teeth with the roommates toothbrush.
So I was ready to go and got it on with Princess Fucks A Lot. She was a T-Dotter. Only one ever. Next morning I am walking home and my hair is a mess so I grab some water out of a puddle and whack that on me head, straighten out the hair business but looked like a twat.
The point to her was, don’t eat big fuckin meals before you go home with a chick. You’re better off eating pussy.
Those the lessons you learn. You always learn as you play. Sometimes you get fouled out the game like Lebron James, but you still played, you still in the game, and thats what matters at the end of the day, it don’t matter if Cleveland wins. I win don’t mean a thing.
Other girls came and came and then went. You take those girls for what they are worth. If you are downtown at pizza corner and you meet a girl who takes you back to her residence, expect the worst. That’s not a great pickup I admit, and I fucked up big time but it was a free cab ride home because like I said, I am broke as shit, the way she goes. So had the girl pay for the cab, I didn’t feel bad, I was going to pay her back in other ways.
So we go in and next thing I know this Chinese roommate of hers is throwing biology textbooks at me head. I never took biology and that but I know those books don’t grow on trees, they are expensive, probably double if the words are in Chinese. So I am thinking, there is no way I can give this girl what she wants with biology books flying. Come to think of it, maybe the roommate was just trying to help. Maybe it was human biology. This is the knobby knocker, this is the fanny, make it. KA POW.
One way of saving money is taking the bus. The last bus downtown used to go at 12 or something like that. Get all boozed up and take the bus down. When you get downtown you will want to scope the scene out and that. Look around. See any skirt? What is the temperature. I can’t list any names here but you all know what bars to go to when right? Some places are a Wednesday some are at Sunday some are whenever.
Pub crawls probably going on soon. Those things are nasty. I don’t know how my broke ass got on so many, but here’s another lesson learned for the freshmen and freshwomen out there, don’t get fucked and pass out in the third bar. That is bad news. Thankfully a mate woke me up and I was tired so there was a sign on the wall, it had about 2 sentences. I read and re-read those goddamn sentences for about 45 minutes. Must have read them 500 times, but I tell you what that kept me awake that night and that kept my sorry ass out of the drunk tank or whatever. Sitting on the curb at 6am putting me shoe laces back in.
Now these experiences were a couple years ago and believe it or not, not everyone had cellphones in these days, probably only 60%. I never had a cellphone. I still don’t. I don’t like talking on the phone. I don’t like texting. I don’t like meeting new people. I don’t need a cellphone. I don’t need you phoning me up. But I still had a phone, it just wasn’t in me pocket. It was in me room.
Now. Cellphone tips. I don’t have any. Sorry.
One final tip. Wear a rubber.
Funny you mention that story HKM, as I have often been told that I look like a Greek sculpture of Adonis and once dated a woman like this who left me because she knew that I had little depth, my values differed from hers, and I had a skanky history. Also, the few dates we went on, there were actually girls who would walk over to me (in front of her) and ask me to go home with them (no drink buying needed). Even her friend chased me shamelessly… wait wait wait, Sarah, is that you?
Just kidding, never had that happen to me. I suspect that you’re a bit older than most women in my 20s age bracket (no offense intended, sometimes I prefer older women… hint hint). I was mainly saying that women at clubs and bars tend to go for these types of guys, I know that not all women do, but most women still don’t want a “nice guy” to be in a relationship with. There are various and sometimes valid reasons for this of course that I don’t want to get into here, you can find all the arguments online.
‘refinedsugar’, buying a girl a drink isn’t synonymous as an agreement for sex, but usually there are ulterior motives behind most men doing so, of course. No one is saying that a woman should have to do anything, just be aware, that’s all.
Don’t worry LIFE SUCKS, our time will come soon I’m sure. Actually, as I’ve mentioned in other threads, I just got out of a longterm relationship so I’m happy to just scout out the scene for now and see what may come along. Unlike what HKM may think, I’m not THAT desperate!
yorkke, you’re not Aussie or English by any chance? Just your use of the words “mate” and “me,” and your clever way with words leads me to believe you’re not North American. Thanks for the stories!
The percentage of people that actually end up in serious relationships with people they meet at bars/clubs is extremely low anyway compared to the main three ways to meet via work, school or friends. Sure, the odd person can bump into their soulmate at a bar . . . but if you don’t, don’t sweat it. People are looking to hook up or have a good time with friends at a bar, so all these “drink rules” are just silly.
qpmzwonxeibcruv, yeah right, say what you will, I know you’re a nice guy = )
No offense. I’m enjoying my age–young enough that not much has changed, old enough that that much of the stress related stuff is behind me. (I’m over your age limit, though… sigh = ) And, as much as I tease you, I know being a bit on edge is not the same as being desperate.
Um, just curious as to why nobody appeared to pick up on the fact that our OP looked ridiculously desperate, and that might be why her Prince Charmless was texting back “sahort” replies…
She leaves him @ the entrance to another bar, her friends don’t really want to go in, and then, like some desperate clinging Kudzu, she drags her friends in and starts texting the guy… and then wonders why he doesn’t swoon at her feet?
Call me crazy, but if I had spent the entire night hanging out with someone other than my friends, thought I was going to hang out with my friends, and perhaps have another talk with the new person at a later date, then said new person starts texting me every 5 seconds after they were *supposedly* heading home, I’d be a little concerned about cling here…
Why do women do shit like that? They fuck it up for the rest of us (Or they did when I was single)…
Whooops! I meant “short” . LOL
Very revealing, yorkke. Since I have been out of the ‘game’ for some time, it would be interesting to see a similar (very honest) look at the game from a woman’s perspective.
Haha Gidget you have it all wrong! He told us to come in the 2nd bar… we just weren’t sure if we were going home or going to stay. When we decided to go in, we didn’t search for him, we just started dancing. I also didn’t “text him every 5 seconds”, and actually didn’t text him at all until after we left…. eieiei ! As you revealed, you’re no longer single… easier to judge now that you’ve got someone by your side
I think Gidget is the first one to figure it out. Clinginess is an absolute turn off. If this girl had either gone in the bar with this dude immediately, or parted ways with no further texts that night, there is a much better chance he’d still be in touch.
As sexist as all this sounds, it’s true. Women have the edge in the sense that they can get into a guys pants with minimal effort. For very attractive women, this effort is effectively zero. For other women, this means keeping it cool and playing the flirting game. But for God’s sake, do not bring any sort of baggage, emotional or otherwise, to the table.
Cling is baggage. It screams desperation and insecurity. Play it cool. Drink school. Stay in drugs.
Whoknows: Every bar in every city is frequented by some sort of douchebag. They come in all forms. You could be at open mic night at Gingers, think you’ve met some in-touch-with-his-feelings Mr Sensitive, who plays all his own songs, and he just turns out to be a womanizing musician. You could be at the Palace and meet a guy who seems to be the strong silent type and you find out he’s really a loud obnoxious jerk. You could be at a show at the Paragon, meet someone who loves the band as much as you do, only to find out at the END of the night that they’re taken, even after you’ve bought them a couple of rounds. When you meet someone at a bar, you’re not really meeting them, you’re meeting their representitive. Complaining about going to the bar and meeting assholes/bitches of the opposite sex or being “lead on” is like complaining about getting wet when you go out in the rain without an umbrella. I too have a good job, work damned hard and like to have a place to relax in my free time, but I don’t expect to meet someone decent/respectable at a bar. I’m not slamming anyone who meets someone at a bar. By the time you’re old enough to go to the bar, you’re a consenting “adult” in my books. But going to the bar with the expectation of meet someone “nice” is ludicris. Both sexes are equally at fault here. And for your information, 99% of what is said on here is opinions and opinions can’t really be wrong, hence Never Wrong.
Grow the fuck up OP!! As soon as I read “we were texting each other in the club” I knew what we were dealing with. Some 21 year old girl who falls head over heels over some guy because he paid a little attention to her. First of all, you were “insurance” in case he did not find anything better to fuck. Apparently he must have. Secondly,. what the fuck is up with “texting”?!? You are in the same fucking bar for fuck’s sake!! What happened to walking around and FINDING the guy and talking to him?! ANyone that fucking immature deserves to be lead on.
Well HKM, I’m a nice enough guy, just not the stereotypical “nice guy” who can’t stand to not be around a girl all the time, says “I love you” every five minutes, writes poems for her, and buys gifts and brings flowers all the time (do women actually like that? Really?). And since when were you over my age limit? Limits can be flexible… unless you’re an old granny, or one of my mom’s friends (which you very well could be. How awkward would that be?). OK, I’ll go up to 40, max.
And ‘whoknows’/OP, don’t stress about this too much. Next weekend will be here soon enough and I’m sure another Mr. Right Now will come along, allowing you to forget this event ever happened. Who knows, it could even be me or another one of us here at LTWWB. Scary! I’m the one who can’t dance.
WhoKnows:
Based on the info you gave in your original post, which made it sound like you went in following him:
“My girls and I weren’t sure if we wanted to go in, but he went in to find his friends, saying “text me, okay?” before he went in. We went in a few minutes later, ended up seeing him in there and he saw me but didn’t come over.”
Then you went on to say:
“Later on I texted him a few times, all short replies from him….. “
This makes it look like you were stalking the poor guy. Maybe he didn’t actually see you? Maybe he was hanging out with his buddies and that’s why he was texting short replies?
Maybe by texting him from inside the bar he thought you were desperate and unable to have fun with your friends without being in touch with him?
I dunno, I am not a guy (and I don’t play one on TV), but many of my friends are male, and I can tell you that the situation as you presented it in your original bitch *could have* smacked of desperation from a guy’s prespective.
I wasn’t there, I was going by what you posted, which is all I can do.
And being single or not being single has no bearing on my ability to judge your post. I work in the bar industry, I see this $hit all the time, and I have several single girlfriends who do this kind of thing and sob that they can’t find a decent man because they all “play games”.
My point is, men aren’t hard to figure out, they like the conquest. By playing “easy to get” (and I don’t mean sleazy or “easy” by that statement), you seriously cut your prospects in half. Leave some mystery.
And someone who “seems interested”, of either sex, might just be a friendly person who likes meeting new people.
Christ. I was a few beer under. That post was gobbledygook.
But I have made pretty much every mistake possible when it comes to girls. I just misread everything. Terrible reader of girls. The ones I thought liked me, hated me, the ones that liked me, I thought hated me.
Should do a sober post sometime on the issue.
MrMan, you are right about the desperation thing–it is the biggest turn off–and that includes men desperate to get laid. (not that this was the case with you, whoknows)
Never Wrong, I enjoyed reading your opinion = )
Bobby33, incredibly harsh, but unfortunately, I thought the same thing (the guy’s interest had shifted (or even, his friends tore her up, so he wouldn’t acknowledge her)).
qpmzwonxeibcruv, your last limit was 45, now it is 40…did one of your Mom’s friends corner you or something in the last couple of days? Very funny = )
I just have one last thing to say………. I’m sick and tired of trying to avoid two opposite mistakes with guys….the “you’re not showing me enough interest” mistake, and the “you’re too clingy” mistake. More often than not, with the guys I’ve dated I’ve gotten the “you’re not showing me enough interest” so it annoys me that the general response to my posting is that I was acting too desperate.
I am not a gushy girl… I do not tell a guy how much I like him, and drool over him like many girls. I show my interest by continuing to go on dates with him.
So, it pisses me off to be called desperate. I didn’t text him in the bar, it was after we had left. Can any guys back me up at all –> if you’ve told me to text you, and I “play hard to get” by never ever texting you, as the days go by, aren’t you going to think “she’s not interested at all… i told her to text and she never did…frig her”
I’m not showing enough interest… I’m showing too much interest… what B.S.
whoknows: I think what *most* guys are looking for is a woman who shows interest when they are together, but can go a couple of days without hearing from him. Myself, I like women who are straight forward, speak their minds and have some substance. I want to know they’re interested when we’re hanging out together but are cool with being on their own when we’re apart.
“But for God’s sake, do not bring any sort of baggage, emotional or otherwise, to the table.”
Didn’t know guys were only looking for virgins. Explains a lot.
For the record, I was defining “baggage” as one of two things:
1) Gloomy, heavy, or otherwise unappealing emotional history.
2) Presenting yourself such that you give the impression that you will be a burden. You will latch on and require shaking off.
Everyone, virgins included, carry some of the former. This is fine, but it is not something you blabber on about to someone you just met unless you want to terrify, and never speak to them again.
The second is entirely unrelated, and would be defined as “clingy”. Clinginess is associated with obsession, suffocation, and any other number of unwanted traits.
By saying goodbye to this man, then following him into the bar and firing texts at him, I would bet his cling radar went off and he fucked off. I would’ve done the same; it’s easier to shake someone earlier than later.
As I said, in my humble opinion, she should have either stayed with him the whole time and seen what developed, or said goodnight and given it at least a day before re-establishing communication.
mr man:
Fair enough. I took your post to mean that you don’t want a woman to have any kind of baggage whatsoever, which is impossible if a person has had any relationships. There’s always going to be something carried from previous experiences into the next ones.
But, I don’t think the OP was coming off as clingy or desperate. Maybe it’s just how I read it. I do agree with her about the gist of her post, though. It’s the age old, “why do guys get our phone numbers when they have no intention of calling” question. If someone has no intention of going beyond that first encounter and knows it, then they shouldn’t ask for it, whether it’s the man or the woman asking. There must be a better way of ending a brief encounter that you don’t want to pursue.
“your last limit was 45, now it is 40…did one of your Mom’s friends corner you or something in the last couple of days?”
I don’t want to talk about it!
‘whoknows’, seriously, no need to stress. There’s plenty of us men around to choose from. Just have a good time and don’t worry about it. I know it sucks sometimes as I’m kind of in the same boat too, but everyone’s different and eventually someone will want you for however you are (wishy-washy cliche bullshit, I know). Unless you’re really really fat and ugly. The other option, of course, is to lower your standards. Works for me!
Did you happen to consider that maybe when he went inside he had that “one too many” that put him over the line between social and having a good time, and “damn I’m drunk and need to focus on not falling over”? I’ve been in that position where I’ve been having a great time, talking to a great girl, and then one more drink makes the room spin and I want nothing to do with anyone. So, don’t assume he’s a jerk. But, he probably is. Just sayin’
that’s right q, there are plenty of us good guys around, but for some reason, never get picked. with that in mind, i say texting is too fucking unpersonal. what the hell ever happened to talking, or looking at each other. seems to me, that in 5 years, if you are married, and have a fight, it will either be texted or twittered all over the fucking place. or maybe boobtube. shit,if a female wants to talk to me, then all they have to do is say hi. that will start it off. if i say hi to you, don’t get the fucking mace out or start screaming rape. some people can be so dumb when it comes to the opposite sexes. girls, and ladies reading, my personal emial is as follows, gary_450@hotmail.com. i will come to talk to you, face to face, after the first mail.am i desperate, no, just being me. right guys?