Why should someone be charged as a criminal for having more than one wife? If he is married and whores around that is ok but if he is married to the both of them it’s wrong. There are many people religious and non religious that believe in polygamy! Why should the government care who fucks with who? However adultery is fine. Fuck you. —Polygamy shouldn’t be illegal
This article appears in Dec 16-22, 2010.
WOW, you blow your father with that mouth? And, I’m guessing, the answer is a resounding, toothless “YUP!”
^^^ haha, Ivan. That actually made me LOL.
Now everyone’s looking at me.
FUCK YOU IVAN! lol
I know, me too, PK – thank goodness everyone is off to lunch!
>: ) Screeeeeeeee!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA….. it ain’t get no gooder than that.
All we ever hear about within polyagmist communities e.g. Bountiful is the male’s right to have multiple wives. What about a woman’s right to have multiple husbands? Why isn’t “Brother Husbands” a show on tv?
Polygamy is patriarchal, serving men’s interests far more than women’s. Yes there are couples where the woman has multiple partners, but they are the minority, and it certainly doesn’t occur within religious polygamist communities. But don’t even get me started on religious and tribal practices designed to control the lives of females!
Polygamy isn’t one man with multiple wives, polygamy is one man with one wife and a lot of girlfriends.
yep, fuck around all you want, just don’t try making anything official…
that’s where it goes bad.
On thing, prenup on wife #1 … then prenup to marry wife #2
do they have to be combined? or mutually exclusive?
without the prenup, does ex #1 get half the stuff …. shafting wife #2 from half her divorce settlement….
I’ve been reading up on divorce lately….. obviously…. and it doesn’t really cover this area.
some wrinkles to be ironed, me thinks.
Since when is adultery fine ? I must have missed that memo…
here, you marry him op
http://media.canada.com/idl/vasn/20070926/…
LMAO Ivan…that was awesome.
Why are we researching Divorce Z…planning ahead for #2?
just trying to start chapter 2 is all.
Or rather… ex hunny bunny is already trying to white out my name and put in a new one.
chapter 1 could have used a little work on the ending….
I personally have no problem with polygamy provided a) all parties consent to the arrangement and b) all parties are *legally able* to consent.
suppose though there should be some structure in place should one of the parties decide to end their consent.
So it would seem.
Everyone’s chapter 1 could use a little work and a better ending….but that’s how we learn …by not making the same mistakes, and putting more effort…and becoming the best people we can be so there’s no repeat chapters.
Z you may get a random email from a chick who thinks she knows all about you…lol. That’ll be me.
I disagree with Polygamy…but I did watch Big Love.
back in the day adultry was grounds for divorce (likely still is), but the kicker is, back oh, 30 years ago, the other party could be named and if the divorce went to trial could have to testify.
Now a days you have to be legally separated for a year to get a divorce…but if adultery was committed then you can get one right away. But the one who cheated has to sign a paper stating that.
I agree with Orgasmatron. I really don’t have an issue with polygamy so long as no one is getting hurt.
Is there anywhere that polygamy is one wife and 3 husbands? Just wondering. Actually I think I’m looking at this wrong…..it would be nice to have another woman around to help with the cooking and cleaning…but then where does the man come in? Wouldn’t it just be easier to go lesbian? I’m all confused now.
polyandry^^
Yeah. No one getting hurt…not likely. Watch that “sister wives” show on TLC sometime and tell me their happy shiny exterior is telling the whole story. You could cut the jealous tension with a knife!
Women are naturally jealous creatures and I really don’t think you’ll find a completely happy polygamist wife who is 100% happy deep deep down.
Hahaha I think everybody’s situation would be different, RC, just like everybody’s marriage/relationship is different.
Pollyanna! Getting married is as easy as falling out of tree *troz*
And then of course you could also go the harem route (a personal favourite of mine). 😛
PK, I’ve known some jealous men too. It’s a human emotion. And you are right about that show.
http://yafgc.net/?id=1236
Who’d be crazy enough to marry 2 at all let alone at the same time… less yer deaf. Or they both look like Salma Hayek, and are deaf-mute.
you’re funny 195
http://askmrmilo.com/MilosHarem.jpg
Jealousy exists in lots of relationships – that’s something that’s pretty hard to escape from.
I’ve watched that Sister Wives show and the jealousy can be pretty brutal at times, but I have a hard time feeling sorry for them when they’re being jealous over the new wife that one of the old wives picked out for him. Jesus. What did they think would happen? lol.
o.p., if you were a morman, living in utah, then it would be okay. but unfortunately, you are in canada. and as such, have to adhere to their rules, damnit. but you do raise a very valid point. the hudderites and a few other sects, have multible wives, and their communities work out just fine and dandy. are you listening canada?
Polygamy is selfish. At least in my mind it it. What gives one person the right to “have” many people? Places where polygamy is still practiced is generally out of necessity (i.e it’s easier to support a family when there are many members contributing). Until he can grow multiple dicks he can’t have more than one woman at the same time. The end. Oh and I’m against polyandry as well.
I got completely put off by the whole idea after seeing that ‘Sister Wives’ interview where the husband said it would be vulgar for one of his wives to have another man, it would make him mad. Well that shit ain’t fair. On the other hand if my partner wanted to have a tryst with someone part of me feels like I wouldn’t protest but I would hope that it would be fair. If he wants to play, I must be able to as well. Oh all this emotional stuff too, does he talk to the sister wife about his hopes and dreams the way he talks to me about it?
i concur donkey dearest. how goes the book learnin?
Donk, I think that’s what wife #2…3…4… whatever… signed up for when they married.
Just because you don’t have to like their lifestyle… doesn’t make it ‘wrong’ in and of itself.
just definitely not for everyone.
I have enough trouble hanging onto one at a time…
won’t see me affected one bit by this ‘case’.
Who’d want more than one wife? Imagine getting divorced and both of them taking half of everything…..that would leave the guy with very little. At least if he is married and cheating, the one he is cheating with can’t take anything from him.
I love random e-mails….
back in spring someone in texas came across our site, saw how much of a wreck I’d become, and wrote to me randomly making sure I wasn’t psychotic…
kinda weird when strangers thousands of miles away are randomly, reading, judging, and potentially reaching out.
see, even random weirdos give a feck
I never read your comment Jonno….I’ve never heard of a comment on the love side getting removed though. What the heck did you say???
I’m a little afraid those random emails will backfire on me…you are very outspoken and sometimes a little mean and I’m easily put into tears. 🙂
How did 2 of my comments go on one??? Weird…..
Polygamy only benefits the fugly old men who want a new hole to plug – what the fuck do the women get out of this other than popping out kids and working their collective arses off? Even if they hate the husband, according to their fucked up doctrine, they’ll be married even in eternity.
If a man can’t stay faithful to one woman, he isn’t going to be faithful to multiply women and justifying it with a boneheaded religion just doesn’t cut it. If you want to fuck around, DON’T GET MARRIED, ARSEHOLE!
The book learning goes, and that’s about it.
zzz … eh I don’t care what other ppl do as long as they pay taxes. For me though it’s a huge NO.
just think donk. you have a whole bunch of anonymous nerds rooting for you. donk donk she’s our bitch, if she can’t do it i’m not a witch…rah rah sis boom bah
I’m with Donk and TTFN on this. One big resounding NO!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nation…
It does however, make for some titillating conversations.
When I think of some old gnarly religious prick laying his hands on an underaged girl, I want to take a fucking axe and split his nuts in quarters.
Me too, TTFN. They kick the young bucks out to the curb.
“Who’d want more than one wife? Imagine getting divorced and both of them taking half of everything…..that would leave the guy with very little. At least if he is married and cheating, the one he is cheating with can’t take anything from him.”
You’re an idiot.
Who can afford one spouse let alone two or three or more. Not to mention divorce and most importantly nagging from all sides. I think hermits have it right. LOL.
There’s nothing wrong with Polygamy as long as the people involved are not oppressed by the relationship. If two women want to be sister-wives with one man, and the man is down with it too, as long as they aren’t doing it because of some outdated sexist reason (inspired by religious dogma) then it’s fine. Same goes for Polyandry.
It can be argued that multiple spouses has the economic benefit of more than two incomes, more parents around to watch over children, and the obvious gene pool advantage (the more genes mixing in the population, the better). I can easily imagine a thriving, functional, multi-partner marriage existing some day in the future. I can also easily imagine a number of laws emerging in the wake of legalization to sort out things like custody and divorce in such marriages… some day.
But the fact is that the above described relationships are so rare that legalizing polygamy right now would benefit the men still holding onto that outdated sexist model way more often than it would benefit people who just want to live that way, or indeed the women currently being forced to. Legalizing polygamy right now is basically imprisoning women who are currently trapped in these families and throwing away the key. That doesn’t jive with my sense of human equality and I’m not about to say it’s okay to fuck over all of these women just so that a few couples in the world can marry more than one person.
Perhaps someday when the muti-partner relationship model is A LOT more common there will be grounds to, very carefully, make some laws that allow more than two people to join in a marital union. But even that idea I’m weary of, because I don’t have the optimism to believe that the oppressive kind of polygamy will ever be completely gone, and I don’t have the optimism to believe that such laws even when carefully made won’t have a negative impact on women who are unfortunately involved in them.
I love reading your comments snoop. Always put so much better than I ever could. So… ditto.
Polygamy was practiced in North America long before any European came to “the New World.” My ancestors did it and so did our distant cousins. Also, it wasn’t limited to only one sex; both men and women could have multiple spouses.
And the rule was that one could only take on another wife/husband IF there was consent of the previous wife/wives/husband/husbands. I think that the final word came down to the first wife/husband.
Lol thanks pg.
I should say/add, the idea of poly-gamy/andry (and let’s be honest polyandry isn’t common at all) is, well, harmless and fine if you have consenting adults. However the feelings of disenfranchisement makes me wonder if it’s worth it in a society where it isn’t necessary. Just watching the Sister Wives show (who supposedly went into this without protest, on their own accord) makes me hate it. Now here comes the beauty of “I don’t care” … I don’t care what you do. It is not completely outside myself to put myself in someone else’s shoes, and if that is the life they wish to voluntarily lead, then by all means.
I also do not see multiple partner relationships becoming more common in the future. Perhaps people will become more free with their sexuality and what not (seeing as we’ve apparently cured aids and all : ), but in terms of relationship … I don’t think humanity will let go of that any time soon, save extenuating circumstances if those should occur.
i watch too many documentaries…sorry i just think it’s fecked just like sharia
I think the Mormon stuff with the ‘child brides’ is just plain wrong.
Other than that, I don’t care how many wives a man has, or how many husbands a woman has.
Personally, I don’t think this would work for me. I have enough trouble keeping one wife happy and satisfied. I can’t imagine having to service a harem. Also, I don’t need more women in my life ordering me around.
What about the Muslims already In Toronto who have up to four wives,and each of them qualify for welfare with three or four children each so the husband does not even need a job??
The problems with poligamy, with the present system as it is used today. Are many & are IMO more important than somebody with multiple partners !
One is it uses RELIGION to allow “some” men the “right” not just to marry, but to marry multiple wives.
IF every man in the community had the option & women had the right to agree or refuse, then I would not have a problem with it one way or another ,with man & many wives or woman & man husbands.
But unless your one of the ‘connected’ guy’s you are shit out of luck. There is the Biggest problem . Not only do you Never get to marry, at a certain age they throw you from a protected, & very closed system out to the big wide world…& these people have no experience with that !
Then there’s the misuse of Government services for those who need help.
These multiple married guy’s legally have 1 wife, the other(s) is a technically “a single mom with kid’s” so she can get her max welfare check, times wife 3, times wife 4, times wife 5 …. do you get the picture, our social safety net is supporting these deadbeats who are playing the system. THen there is the way the women are raised , as not being worthy, being of less worth than a man, they don’t have a choice to say “I don’t want to marry so & so”…not if they want to stay in the community & still have a family. They can’t even find their own mate & decide to get hitched, your married by decree from the “leader of the church”
The whole system by the controling religion is what I believe needs fixing, They worship in a closed community, they school their children the same way … make it legal & then make them school their children in the regular school system with other children, allowed to see outside the confines of their little self made prison controled by some old guard male dominated hierarchy of prepetual old assholes fucking young girls, cause there’s no way they could pull it off without brainwashing & good ole religious belief ! ! !
The reason this is a problem for Canada is because if polygamy is legalized it will become the gateway to also legalize Sharai law in Canada!
Marriage to conjoined twins…polygamy? = )
Why does polygamy have to do with religion? I’ve seen comments on here about Mormons and Muslims and assumptions that they already have multiple wives. I see no issue if a man wants more than one wive as long as its legal age. I just don’t think that religion should make a difference, like the OP mentioned there are non religious communities out there that practice polygamy and polyandry. Either which way is fine. And if Mormons want their own court and legal system like Muslims do then I don’t see a problem with it either. Canada has a secular legal system and if the religious want theirs then they should be able to have it.
serenity now
Why don’t we just marry everyone and everything and be totally happy or jealous all together? ‘Til death do us part, that is.
But really, you seriously think one person can satisfy multiple spouses physically, emotionally, psychologically, intellectually, etc. at the same time? I am guessing one of the multiple spouses will become unsatisfied due to jealousy or whatever, and then they will leave. So you’ll end up with one, or even worse, none. Polygamy only works in some situations because the wives can’t really get out of the marriage without risking so much. If they had a choice of whom to marry and to get a divorce anytime they wished, polygamy wouldn’t work in any situation.
/troll on
Hey how come she got a sable and I only got a mink.
Religious polygamy in North America is only practiced so that males can rein control over females. In populations in Africa and other nations, as well as polygamy, FGM, female genital mutilation, is used to control females by scraping away all or most of the external genitalia, leaving only a small opening that makes natural bodily functions extremely painful This tiny opening, the diameter of a knitting needle, is enlarged by cutting with a knife when the man wants to have sex with his wife or wives. The archaic reasoning was that the removal of the external genitalia would decrease a woman’s libido, making her less likely to stray. In reality, it requires the removal of the ovaries to achieve this, negating her value at all without reproduction abilities. But such is the way of the ill-informed archaic thinkers. FGM is practised in North America too, in secret, by immigrants who bring their archaic values with them when they come here. What is it with men who feel they have the right to control women?
don’t we live in a wonderful fucking (or non fucking) world of weirdos. who’s up fr some fun and games without the worry of kids. holy shit, i can’t believe i just wrote that, but fuck it, the ponnfarr strikes again, very early.
Females are much better equipped in having multiple partner. That’s the way we’re plumbed. Sorry, guys.
yeah, is true, but i love that female plumbing. it’s a hands on job all the time. one that you can really get into also.
I would love to see a polygamist man go broke when his 4 wives divorce him and gank all his shit.
Snoop, Oceanchick:
You say that legalising polygamy will more endanger the women involved in these “old sexist styles” of polygamy, but I disagree. These “old” ways of polygamy mean its more important for polygamy to be legalised.
What about a family with a man and several wives that moves to Canada. That man isn’t going to divorce his wives because it is illegal, and in some cases he is going to use the fact that it is illegal to control the women.
For example, you move from a country, where the man had complete control over you as one of the “wives”, and most likely you fear him. Now you move to a new country, a country you are completely unfamiliar with, and probably have a bit of “trust” issues with the government, and now the man tells you that polygamy is illegal and if you go to ANYONE you will be arrested and thrown in jail.
As it stands now, taking on the sexist outlook of polygamy that you are, women have no protection. Legalising polygamy would give these women protection by providing resources to help them, as well as an open road to communication where they can learn what to do to protect themselves. They would at least have the ability of taking the man to court and openly discuss what went on in the household.
Really though, I don’t think polygamy needs to be made into such a religious thing, or sexist at that, and if consenting adults want to practice it, what the fuck is wrong with that?
Males are much better equipped in suppressing and dominating females. That’s the way we’re built. Sorry, gals.
there… see how stupid I sounded?
Stupid? More like SO HOT.
HAHAHA
But, that’s getting to be a thing of the past, zZz…due to a change of thinking over the last century, females have found ways to balance the power in a relationship. For example, since we still do much of the cooking, a can of Draino sitting next to the salt and pepper pretty much checks bully husbands…that and the invention of tasers = ).
69 comments on a bitch about polygamy. Giggity giggity.
I can’t stop picturing Oceanchicks comment – that’s really awful. The rest was a blur after that.
I know, I read an article about it once – and it’s really stuck with me, so, so vividly.
Yeah genital mutilation is pretty nasty stuff.
Ginger & Falling, you’re trolling right? Opening Canada to religious law, is just asking for trouble. Do you happen to know the difference between immigrants and settlers?
umm…fucking polygamy is not a religion?
Not to mention, we are a fucking muticultural soceity, if you want assimilation move to the states.
Fuck.
I was going to reply to Gingers ridiculous comment about how secular law (ie: law separate from religion by definition) should allow for religious legal systems to apply to people of those religions… as opposed of having a secular system that applies to everyone no matter what religion or non religion…
I had written this big long comment and everything.. but then I deleted it because no one could ever overlook the existence and sexism in the majority of polygamous families today, and no one could ever actually believe that letting religions have their own legal system is a good thing.
All the normal ‘with the times’ religious people are fine with most of our current laws. It’s the batshit crazy ones that want their own legal system so that they can make a bunch of batshit crazy laws that don’t jive with a modern sense of human rights. Imagine an extremist court ruling that being a homosexual was a crime and punishable by law. That’s currently the reality in a number of countries right now and it’s happening because the legal system is corrupted by religion and not secular.
falling, I can’t comment on your rant about families moving to and from Canada because I just frankly don’t understand it, and because I’m trying to simplify the discussion by talking about families IN Canada. Laws dealing with crossing boarders are details easily worked out after polygamy laws are changed. And should they be changed? Yes of course, I never said otherwise.
They should not, however be legalized. It’s a complicated issue… you can’t just legalize all of it because “oh, it’s not about religion of sexism and theoretically there’s nothing wrong with it” Bull. I’m not making it into a religious or a sexist thing because it already is a religious and sexist thing and has been for many years. They (practicing people) made it into a religious and sexist thing. You can’t ignore real tangible details in favor of a theoretical ideal. In Canada the laws originally came about because of all kinds of horrible abuse towards women that were taking place in RELIGIOUS polygamist families because of their RELIGIOUS beliefs, some of which are still happening. The laws were actually specifically tailored toward the religious families, the name of the religion was actually printed in them back in the 1880’s (they thought it was bad before women had the vote!). It would be nice if we could separate polygamy from it’s past (and present) and just legalize it all, but doing so is irresponsibly simplifying the problem at the expense of the victims and society as a whole.
Women are not currently charged for telling police they are part of a polygamist family. Technically can they be charged? Maybe, I don’t know. But in the very few court cases that have dealt with the problem the men have been charged. Why is there only a few cases? Because pesky religion keeps getting in the way of charging men with sexual and physical abuse, bride trafficking, underage rape, you name it. Freedom of religion is always argued in the cases and it usually wins. I’m all for freedom of religion but as soon as it stomps on basic human rights I have no tolerance or respect for it and neither should the law.
Updating the polygamy laws? Sure. Can you have laws that allow some people to have polygamist relationship but don’t allow others to without being hypocritical? Probably not… But blanket legalization? Hell no. For all the reasons I already described and also because of a score of other reasons that are all fighting to get out of my brain right now that I’m holding back because I imagine this stupid comment is already too long.
I could go on and on about the social ruin of other places that have legalized it, or on about the effect it has on the education of the children brought up in the isolated community, or about how it undermines feminist progress, or how I don’t want to live in a country where if I get married my husband can legally just up and decide he wants to marry another person but I won’t because I have to go back to work now.
Holy hell, no one ever said polygamy was a religion…
…are you misunderstanding people on purpose?
Of course atheist societies are much better off than those with some sort of religious base. There’s the former USSR (oops sorry, wrong), North Korea (nah), China (not for the common people, Cuba (well starting too, well that’s happening concurrently with the increase of religious freedoms).
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jIMkicp0fWg/TMvw…
Who’s arguing for an atheist society? I’m arguing for a secular one.
Also I resent the implication that atheism is bad because some bad people happened to be atheists. It’s a common logical fallacy to confuse correlation with causation.
Not saying atheism is bad or good, to each their own. However, I cannot think of one successful so-called “atheist” state.
Most secular countries have a religious (Christian or otherwise)base, including Canada and the US, most of Europe, and Southeast Asia (including Australia).
Nice comment snoop
For those who are saying religion shouldn’t be part of it…The problem is RELIGION is behind ALL OF IT !
I have no problem withthe idea…my problem is how itis presently implemented.
Religious interference PERIOD…that is the problem.
Okay so you’re not saying that atheism is bad but that worldviews or legal systems based on atheism are bad because some of those were based on atheism in the past were bad and unsuccessful. It’s the same correlation and causation fallacy though. Atheism didn’t cause them to fail a host of other reasons separate from atheism caused them to fail that I’d rather not get into a tangent about. Lots of religious based worldviews and legal systems have been bad and unsuccessful too.
In contrast there’s our current secular systems that are based on Religion that are so far successful, implying that religious based systems are superior. Except that our society really began to flourish with the introduction of secularism and actively weeding out religion from our legal systems (think the genius of the founding fathers in America). Getting rid of religion helped. Most of the problems left are just remnants left over from that process, or are because religious people (usually the more extreme ones) want to reintroduce unconstitutional religious based laws.
It’s not about atheist vs. belief oriented states, it’s about secular states being superior to both. We are no longer a religious state no matter how many people like to think we are, also just because the majority of people in the county are Christians does not make us a Christian state and does not justify passing laws based on Christianity. Although we began as a religious state, we are now instead a secular state and that is why we are so far successful.
Also I understand the term ‘atheist state’ as you use it but will caution everyone to be careful not to muddle atheism and Marxism and communism into one incomprehensible blob as if they are interchangeable because they are not. For this reason I dislike the term “atheist state” when referring to communism or Marxism etc.
And I would also like to point out that being an atheist today does not mean being a Marxist or a communist, so those worldviews are mostly irrelevant if we’re discussing a modern situation involving atheism.
I don’t even remember how the discussion turned to atheism in the first place…
And I don’t mean to be picking on anyone, I just have a lot of specific opinions about religion and atheism that I like to rant about… 🙂
it’s okay snoop, you are a rational bitcher in a world gone mad
All of the above comments aside, what about a bisexual husband and a bisexual wife having a polygamist relationship with both people having partners of the same sex?
I see no problem at all with that if everyone involved is happy with the situation.
Well, that’s not a polygamist relationship is it?
How isn’t it? A married couple both with other partners that live in the same home.
Though the definition of polygamy that most people think of is multiple marriages at the same time, look up the definition on the merriam-webster dictionary….
: marriage in which a spouse of either sex may have more than one mate at the same time.
It only states mate, not spouse. In that definition it’s still a polygamist relationship.
Because the definition of polygamy is ONE man living with multiple women…
Not two men living with two women.
What you are talking about is called a group marriage not polygamy.
…and polyandry is ONE woman living with multiple men…
polygamy is another twisted interpretation taken from a *holy* book. stop having kids with kids http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/l…
It would be a group marriage if everyone was together but I don’t think it’s the same when the separate partners aren’t in relationships with the other people in the home. Obviously they would have relationships but I mean romantic relationships.
Ok, what if only one person had multiple partners, male and female?
I’m just interested to see the opinion of people on the situation I’m in currently.
Thanks for that link pain-girl, It’s important to keep in mind that women are not the only victims, but children be they girls or boys…
“Often referred to as the “lost boys of polygamy,” many polygamous sects excommunicate large numbers of their teenage boys for the most trivial infractions. Once excommunicated, the boys are left on the street without any financial or emotional support.”
Two married couples living in the same home that don’t have romantic relationships with the other couple? Roomates…. lol
And having multiple partners in a relationship male and female is called polyamory or an open relationship or marriage, take your pick.
What do people think of it? No one cares, not even the law. Do what you want with your private sex life as long as no one’s getting hurt.
I guess that came out wrong, I didn’t mean two married couples. One married couple, the man has a boyfriend and the woman has a girlfriend.
I prefer polyamory as our marriage is not an open marriage.
I suppose I should have gathered my thoughts better before posting, but I do like your comments heh
Nah, I could have just read it wrong, micha. Although it is worthwhile to be specific in wording and definitions about things to avoid confusion etc… and it doesn’t help when they all start with “poly”
But regardless, yeah I think it’s polyamory in your case.
The only way that polygamy could be made legal in this country is if all parties to the marriage were equal in their status within the group marriage and the same rights, privileges and responsibilities were conferred on each party.
Really, the only circumstance which would conform to these conditions would be a group marriage in which at least two partners in a mixed-gender group were bisexual, or in which all partners were of the same sex.
The religious groups currently observing polygamy in this country would _not_ want polygamy formally codified as guided by our beloved Charter. The widespread welfare fraud among some of these groups would likely end, however, as these families would no longer be eligible for welfare because they are an intact family unit. Perhaps this kind of economic pressure on polygamous families to be self-supporting financially will drive them either to other areas softer on such arrangements, or to reform.
Bluenosedoug is an Islamophobic moron that needs to STFU and troll elsewhere.
Anyway, as per the discussion between snoop and micha, I think it’s important for people to make the distinction between polygamy and polyamory. One is basically icky, religious-based arrangements that subjugate women, and the other is potentially awesome arrangements between mature, consenting adults.
A lot of people in this thread seem to be making rather broad judgements about multiple-partner relationships of the non-creepy-Mormon type, and inferring that no normal person could ever be happy in such an arrangement. It may not be for everyone and it certainly does take work, but just because you’re not interested in that kind of relationship for yourself, doesn’t mean it doesn’t work amazingly for others.
what the fuck ever happened to one man, one woman thing? is this an ancient thing that no longer exists, perhaps? as we move forward in time, many men and women, decide they want a little something extra, like a friend with benifits. not saying that all women or men want this, but there are quite a few that do.being the case then, shouldn’ one partner have 2 or 3 or more friends, and it would work the other way too.
they stay married to each other, enjoy their sex time, and if either want more, then they go to friend to get it.is it cheating, not in the normal way, because spouse knows and okays it, while they themselve, do it too. i can’t see too many guys saying no to this, and maybe women either. maybe the guy or girl is a dud, but love each other, and they make an agreement to find a better or more abler lover on the outside of their union. in a nutshell, i’m married, spouse is lousey in bed to my standards, i go find one that isn’t, with her blessings, while the exact opposite may be the case, with her. it’s a funny fucking world out there, and smeplace, we all have a place in it. here i am ladies, your horny little concubine. or whatever you want to call it.
If polygamy is such a joy, why do no women engage in it? And why do single women live longer than married ones?
“… i can’t see too many guys saying no to this” No they wouldn’t LS when it comes to them. I think if you question many a married man they’d have an issue with their lady getting boned by someone else. This is a side of things that isn’t shown very much. It may be fine in the moment when they realize the freedom they have, but I bet many of the little pussies will complain. Men consider physicality more so cheating and women generally consider the emotional side of cheating.
Humanity is too “selfish” to ever fully accept polygamy. The more cooks in the kitchen the more fucking disastrous the meal tastes. I’d rather live alone than deal with more than 1 man in today’s world, and I’ll be damned if I have to deal with another female. I go to body pump classes with about 40 females in 1 room and I don’t know how you boys do it …
The only thing in this life I don’t want to be is a cheater. I do not EVER want to do that to someone else. Not that I’m passing judgement on other ppl that may have cheated but it would kill me to have it done to me. Too much instant gratification in this world and that’s sad. People think they can keep it a secret but I can tell you in a heart beat if some one has cheated, if a couple is having problems or if they’ll work/last a lot of the time. Body language speaks sooo much louder than words but we ignore what it says. Eh, I don’t get the sense of entitlement. What balls you must have to cheat.
Don’t really know where that comes in … lol. I think the point was don’t marry a cheater? …
Morning all.
If polygamy were the norm, then a man’s success would be measured by how many wives he has. I’m sure you can see where this would go.
So meow, if someone says something you don’t like, they’re a phob and a troll, eh?
Guten Morgen, du auch
Hey Donk, while I totally agree about cheating, I think you missed somewhat on “… i can’t see too many guys saying no to this”, should have added “or women”. I’m sure more than woman fits your discription for the double standard.
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Um, no Hugo, but I think it was pretty obvious from the comments made that the intent was to stir the pot by making shitty inferences about Muslims.
So, would you jump to the defense of another religion that was being attacked on ltwwb? Call everyone out on their christianophobia, anti-semitism or anti-catholicism? No? Didn’t think so.
I bought into the “religion of peace” crap too, but then I did some reading, I suggest you do the same.