So, you piss all over the Occupy Movement, pointing to mainstream news stories that depicts all of the protesters as entitled, spoiled young brats who were too irresponsible for their own good, are now saddled with $40,000+++ debt for an education and are generally just entitled douches as evidence.
1 – You do realize that mainstream media is owned by the very people who continue to profit immensely by the status quo and are threatened by any change this movement may bring about to it, right?
2 – You also realize that the movement isn’t “muddled” nor about the entitlement that you all so love to rail against, right?
Here’s a taste of what the Occupy movement is about:
a) The outrageous influence corporations have over our elected officials, at the expense of the average person (corporate interests above those of the avg citizen);
b) In Canada, the federal business tax rates have steadily declined from 21% before 2008 to 15% effective Jan 2012 (really? Is this such a wise decision given what’s been going on in the world since the global financial meltdown of 2008???)
c) Electoral reform. I’d like to actually have a chance at having a say in how our country is run for a change, or at least a semblance of a say;
d) Lobbyists. They are an unnecessary evil with way too much power;
d) What about the fucking environment, government?????? The writing’s been on the wall for more than 20 yrs now, yet we’re actually moving in the opposite direction. Is our government even listening to science? To its own people? Do they even care?;
e) Justice for those left destitute worldwide by predatory lending practices in the US, the exorbitant greed of those in the world financial markets, the toothless regulations of the markets and lack of enforcement of said regulations. MILLIONS suffered – and continue to suffer – while a very small percentage became extremely wealthy on the backs of this suffering. They actually even bet (yes, that’s right – gambled) on the downfall of the same individuals whom they ripped off, knowing full well they stood to make a fortune at the expense of those they screwed. If that’s not immoral I’m not sure what is.
And this is just a sampling.
So, tell me, is there any mention of IPODs or IPhones, or UGGs or any other fucking brand you can think of??? Of student loans??
I didn’t think so. —Not Even a Student, Nor a Protester (Yet) – Just Someone with Her Eyes Open
This article appears in Oct 27 – Nov 2, 2011.
There are lots and lots of reasons to be angry these days! I’ve got a job so I’m not protesting – lol – but that being said I am glad there are people in my city exercising their rights, and getting their message out. Good on them.
Real talk.
Um, there was no financial meltdown in Canada except for the auto industry which did it to themselves.
Speaking of IPads, IPhones, etc how many protesters have them and other brand name items?
Last of all vote. It’s your right, exercise it.
“Lobbyists. They are an unnecessary evil with way too much power;” – Like Ralph Nader and David Suzuki?
http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/alex/2010/…
Way to side step the issues entirely Bro Tim but what else should I expect from you? Thoughtful analysis? Doubtful.
– This isn’t about a financial meltdown in Canada. The OP did not say anything about there being one. In fact it’s irrelevant anyway since people can be badly off even if the economy is “growing”, since growth does not reflect the distribution of wealth. The issue is social justice and not the kind that involves the police beating down protesters for a bit of property damage.
– Probably quite a few people have ipads and iphones. But that doesn’t make what they’re protesting any less legitimate. It simply means that they benefit from some aspects of the way we organize our economy. That doesn’t make all of the bad things (unemployment, bailouts, unfair taxation, etc) suddenly disappear.
– We get to vote once every four or so years, and then our vote is typically (mis)represented by a relatively anonymous person in Ottawa who may or may not have any political clout and, even if he/she does, they may not use it to our benefit, since most citizens do not have the time or resources to invest in lobbying. Electoral reform shouldn’t only be about better representation, it should be about accountability. That hardly exists the way things stand now.
Should clarify things so people don’t try to discredit me:
– Not a protester
– Not a student
– Not in the 18-25 age group
– In the “middle class”, as in, I work for a decent salary and pay taxes every year. That said, I still recognize all of the social injustices there are in our country.
OK: Here’s my take on OWS Halifax. As many of you know, I am Canadian-American and in fact, have lived most of my life in the states. While I am pleased with the healthy questioning of the status quo in NS, y’all really don’t have it so bad, relative to the Statesians.
Mkay, graduating with 40K in debt–our unis and colleges are 40K a *year* now. There are countless other examples of how life over all is better in Canada… It’s prolly not the 99%, either, more like 60%…
Anyway it reminds me of an incident that took place at my fancy-ass women’s college in the 60’s (My work-study job was in the archives). Across the country, campuses were burning and administration offices were being occupied by students, effigies burning and so on. Meanwhile, in New England, Smithies held a sit in to demand…wait for it….the library stay open an extra hour!
I know this sounds like I am mocking the whole thing, and I’m not really. There is indeed a movement that wants to make Canada more like the US, in fact Harper is someone who wants to change the values Canadians hold dear, and it is important to keep a watchful eye (and to prevent things like the omnibus bill from passing).
But does the situation in Canada really warrant the occupy movement? Are corporations people? Is your system of government technically fascist?
Perhaps one litmus test might be in the make up of the protesters. What percent of the OWS Halifax movement is not of traditional college age? I haven’t seen it, (There is no Halifax web cam focused on the parade grounds!) so I don’t know for sure. (Not that that’s stopping me from opining). Just Sayin’
@ Xenophilia — I too am a Canadian-American and couldn’t agree with you more.
I like Uggs.
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As many of you know, I am Canadian-American and in fact, have lived most of my life in the states.
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Witch!
you opened the door dearest wp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLe4IIuf9Ew
I actually know a guy who’s in the heart of it filming the whole thing and uploading video to YouTube everyday. I remember him talking about doing a livestream, but I’m not sure what happened with that.
“Lobbyists. They are an unnecessary evil with way too much power;” – Like Ralph Nader and David Suzuki?” Good one, Hugo >: )
Throw in Buzz Hargrove, C.U.P.E., C.U.P.W., not to mention every other socio-political collective of the professionaly indignant who bemoan the lack of social justice but could still find a microphone and camera crew in the middle of the Kalahari Desert.
The so-called 99% are a helluva lot more diverse than the Pavement Mongols in their M.E.C. yurts like to think.
I personally believe the only ‘lobbying’ that should be allowed is for voters in each electoral district to contact their local elected representitive by mail (e-mail is fine).
SO a RECORD of what is being asked of them & their reply is then PUBLIC RECORD….because after all they are ‘servants of the public’ are they not ?
These so called special interest group lobbiests need to be outlawed, & yes I know that means the enviromentalists (I have always distrusted any title with ‘mental’ in it) & other wanna be do gooders would have to go, along with the banking arseholes, the oil & mining lobbiests…but if you believe we should get rid of some , I say get rid of ALL OF THEM.
As for taxes on companies that are providing jobs. I’ve got an idea, any of them that tries to take 1 red cent out of Canada, pays a 99% tax on it, so for every dollar they try to take out of here from their ‘profits’ we get 99 cents of it.
Keep the money here, & let the foreign companies go rape somewhere else.
that’s kule nerdman, documentation is the way to roll. *mec yurts* ftw
Thanks Ivan, I’m in a mood today 😉
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vZhR4a7LLS8/R_gT…
Bring it, PG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jbEkaXadg
Thanks, ‘Gasm, I’ll check it out. I did see the photos…I thought, Man, those guys know how to camp! None of those 25$ jobs you get at Walmart. You could take those babies to Nunavut!
Wow, I could have written this post. My boyfriend and I were having this discussion last night. I find the media reports really, really lacking in the whole clarity department. Not really surprised. Aljazeera is the way to go if you want responsible reporting.
that was awesome xeno, love that scene. you need operatives all around, ralmn. absorb the info, then find out whats real^^my crows know
OP well said!!!
The media that’s controlled remember, doesn’t want you to think for yourself they want to tell you what you think.
This is the channel of the guy I mentioned: http://www.youtube.com/user/WisemanTimes
No one forced those protesters to accept $40,000 in debt for their education. They made the decision to pursue post-secondary education, if any of them even have a degree….unlikely. A degree is an investment, from which people will make a great return on….one of the best you’ll ever make in your life. There are no freebies or handouts for those who don’t want to work hard. Fuck the protesters, hope they freeze to death in their tents.
i guess you pegged 95 per cent of the population right on. most of us, don’t give a fuck, and the rest, well, they don’t really give a fuck either.just another freak show to laugh at, and very cheap at that, see yas.
So someone pissed away $40,000 for a university ‘education’ and can’t find a job and then wanders the streets complaining about capitalism, corporations, and anything else they can think of.
Well, cry me a river. You made crap decisions and continue to make crap decisions.
Grow up, get a purpose in life, set personal goals, and stay away from losers, wanderers and the clueless.
Where is your self respect ?
‘Gasm, thanks so much for sharing this site! I have a new favorite show to watch. I wrote down my thoughts as I was watching the men in tights episode. FWIW, here they are:
• Woman in sweatshirt…what does it say? I can’t tell if it’s CDN or CUN. If it is the latter, what is it an acronym for?
• Love the old guard that came down to school the ‘yungun’s on community activism. Sorry to see him using tobacco (folks like him need to stick around longer!) Take that back he just said he’s 77. Jesus, he looks good. smoke em if you got em, old man.
• meld with truth and reconciliation commission meetings (happening simultaneously) Why not? First Nations should march down and show those kids how to bang those drums
• Pussy cat-is that the one on the front page with its nose paired blue? Hisss.
Oh, yeah…those folks in tights? I have a Vindicator costume (XL) I’d be happy to send up after this Saturday. (http://www.cosplaygate.com/goods-197-Red+A… click this and bow down, those that called me a witch!)
Joeblow, you’re missing the point.
Can you read?
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/107528…
“In Canada, the federal business tax rates have steadily declined from 21% before 2008 to 15% effective Jan 2012 (really? Is this such a wise decision given what’s been going on in the world since the global financial meltdown of 2008???) “
Do you have any idea who that benefits? Any small business owner with $600 in their pocket can incorporate and benefit from those tax rates. Your comment is intended to play on the ignorance of people that think corporations only come in the HUGE and PROFITABLE variety.
All the grads have to do is hit NSCC, take a trade and get those great paying jobs coming up, work for Irving and the sub-contractors and pay their school debts in no time.
I don’t think Joeblow, Sebastian, et al are meant to “get” the point of my bitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe…
http://youtu.be/i9zkQcLi4Yo
“I like Uggs.”
I like you in Uggs.
having been born in the bayou state, i can truly say, that i am canadian now, with a smattering of yank, on the side.
Xeno (who was wondering about the makeup of the OWS movement) and borrowing from canned:
I’m
– Not a protester
– Not a student
– Not in the 18-25 age group
– In the “middle class”, as in, I work for a decent salary and pay taxes every year
I could count my partner among this demographic, as well as a large number of my friends and coworkers.
And I vote, try to have a say in how things are run but to what end? Clearly that hasn’t worked out so well for quite some time now.
I know, I know – suck it up, right?
But having to watch a country I love get co-opted by a guy and his groupies who want to turn us into the 51st state makes the whole thing all the more difficult to stomach.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t protest. I love a good parade or rally, have my own percussion instrument and all purpose protest sign (this is an outrage).
An occupy movement goes way beyond a rally or parade though, and invites problems to an area not set up for a tent city. (Thank god the ferry washrooms are close by the parade). Occupying a place day after day can erode sympathy for your cause. I watched video on the link Gazz sent, and while parts of it were charming, it was clear that the speakers were just beginning to articulate their thoughts and would have benefited from some seminars and workshops so they could hone their message. At this point, there is no end date to the occupation, although I imagine it won’t last the winter.
I think a rally (even every Saturday for a year) to show solidarity with OWS would be great in Halifax. Occupation, especially with no clear demands or end date, is as otiose as those FB pleas to repost for the flavour of the month.
So you spent $40K on a degree, so what? You obviously couldn’t afford it or it was a bad decision. Take some responsibility. I’m just going to leave this here http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/10/24/a-phony…
we live in a time of more comforts than the world has ever seen. Get a grip and get over yourselves. If you really want a change then run for government and make it happen.
You’re very welcome, Xeno. In an interesting turn of events, The City has ordered the occupiers (occupants?) to move to the Commons by no later than 5 PM on Nov. 6 so they can get ready for Remembrance Day/Holocaust ceremonies. Of course, they can’t really move back after Remembrance Day because then they’ll be prepping the Parade for “holiday” celebrations. These next few weeks/months should prove to be interesting.
I propse that they relocate to Seaview/Africville park considering they let Carvery doss there for years.
Interesting is right, Brendon. I’ll give them full credit for being well-behaved up to this point. They’ve done a good job at keeping their bonehead fringe on a short leash. No petty vandalism, no spitting on suits, (Saliva – The People’s Kalashnikov), no aggressive shakedowns of passersby for “donations”, the “Occupation” hasn’t turned into a “Blockade”. Hopefully they will will accept reality with good grace and understand that in another 16 days that area will be filled with citizens honouring men and women who actually did do something to make the world a better place.
You said it, Admiral. There was a nice shot of the protesters sitting on and around the cenotaph, with the allegorical ‘mother’ looking down on them. I imagined her saying “I hope you boys aren’t cutting classes!”
Admiral..they sure did something !
I just don’t know what it was, except as I see the world, they kept the elite in power & died so those who sent them there could retain their priviledged positions.
I personally would go to war for this country, as long as the Members of Parliament, lead the way…I’d be right behind them.
IF they wanted to remain in the rear & direct things…I’d be happy to hang out with them until they took the lead.
If more citizens of all countries felt as I do, there would be no war.
Because no one with 1 iota of sense would go there.
People talk about the housing bubble, the real bubble is in education
Interesting comment, dartmouthy. Education is definitely pricey but do you really think it’s a bubble that’s going to burst? It’s not a rhetorical question, I’m actually interested in hearing more.
I’m not sure if post secondary education should be more heavily subsidized or should stay as is – only those with the brains or the means (ie work + go to school, parents pay, etc) can go unless they want to accumulate tons of debt.
Of course there is the option to work for a few years and save up before going, but not sure that’s really feasible for most given the high rent (can’t always live with parents) and increasing costs of living….meanwhile wages remain the same.
Plus, if we have a population that is postponing school, they’re postponing a career and postponing buying a house and postponing starting a family….and that is not necessarily a good thing.
I know that in Sweden, higher education is essentially “free”. Students get loans but many never end up paying them off and that’s basically cool, they’re doing pretty good for themselves over there. (I think the high tax rate has something to do with it!)
It used to be similar in the UK but no longer.
I am pretty sure that I don’t really agree with following in the U.S.’s footsteps on this one.
You people against this protest have no clue what you are even against, It’s actually a little pathetic to watch.
It is the fact that big banks and corporations are running the economy through the stock market. Big banks decided to give out mortgages to people who couldn’t pay them back, they made money for securing the sales, these were deemed AAA investments by the regulatory branches in charge of designating investment status, who were paid billions for their fraud. To date their has not been one CEO of a big bank or corporation, nobody in the regulatory board, or stock market executive charged or even fined a substantial enough amount of money to deem it not worth while. In the meantime investment groups in charge of pension plans, retirement plans, as well as government all over the world bought these investments as AAA, but in fact were sold bad debt. As these bonds mature, countries such as the Europeans, who were fraudulently sold these so called AAA investments, are left with no choice but to use public money to bail out banks, corporations, and in some cases governments, to ensure the economy holds fast.
So greedy banks, investment firms, stock market regulatory boards, and corporations fraudulently sold bad debt and bankrupted the worlds economy. People lost their jobs, homes, retirement savings and are now, through public bailouts, responsible for replacing billions in stolen funds. With all these factors, the gap between rich and poor has grown exponentially, destroying the middle class and decimating the working poor, making education unaffordable for most.
Good job uninformed douchebags for poking fun at people who have the balls to put themselves out there to say that this type of behavior is criminal and not going to accepted as the status quo. A big FUCK YOU goes out to all who don’t support this movement.
StephenHarper’sBeelzebub…..That’s just the tip of the ice berg.
More likely a single ice crystal from the tip !
What about long & shorts scam ?
Fractional reserve banking ( you know where they can lend out $10.00 for every $1 dollar they actually posses & charge interest on this extra $9.00 that doesn’t actually exist)
selling investments plans to your customers…then betting against those investment in the market to make a profit for the bank !?!
How is that even fucking legal ! ! ! ! ! !
Selling Silver & Gold backed certificates for bullion…that doesn’t exist !
charging investors ‘storage fees’ on bullion in their vaults, that doesn’t exist !
Let us not even open the can of worms that is Banking Industry lobbying…did you know in the USA…there are 5 Banking Lobbiests for every single member of Congress .
I like this place.
http://www.24hgold.com/english/gold_silver…
Its good for ease of looking at costs in different curriencies & the bottom links to different views, from analysis, press reviews & commentaries by so called market experts.
Hey Kelifax,
As far as being ready to burst I think it depends on a lot of other factors – but yes, how many folks do you know who have a degree and no job in their chosen field? Maybe two degrees…
All the degrees and education in the world won’t help someone get a job if no one is hiring or if the person has no inherent skills (other than a piece of paper)…
I went to a two year college to get a piece of paper to show I know what I am talking about – but I was freelancing for years before that, and spent a lot of my personal time honing my skill set and learning new techniques and technologies.
I was doing that before I went back to school, I am doing that after. And I am gainfully employed making a better living than most of my friends, no matter how many 4 year degrees they have.
So they spent $20,000, $40,000 on an education because it is something they are pre-programmed to do – not because it is going to give them a better shot in life.
Every government official when I was a kid was talking about the sky falling – there is no such thing any more as a lifelong career – you may have five careers over a lifetime – one degree isn’t necessarily enough to get a job- etc. etc.
Essentially propping up academia by scaring the pants off of these kids, ensuring they will spend the better part of whatever they are going to make in the first ten years (or more) of adulthood on an education that – depending on market climate, depending on the local job market, depending on lots of factors – may or may not be useful for them.
“they’re postponing a career and postponing buying a house and postponing starting a family”
The people gainfully employed are having to postpone those things becuase costs have so outstripped wages in this country… I make $54K and after taxes I’m down to under $30K (after mandatory deductions and health insurance) – don’t get me started on how much I have left after child support. Enough I end up borrowing money from my parents so I can afford food.
Where am I going with this? I don’t know, lol.
All I know is there is a lot more to being successful in life than accumulating papers from academia. And like any other bubble, the education bubble will burst, eventually. Whether it is paid for by the taxpayers or not.
try owning your own business, acoa won’t help, banks won’t help. it’s a tough, bumpy road
Tell me about it Painy !
I own a small business, & I have built it from scratch.
I literally bought it a piece of equipment at a time, often renting other pieces to go with what I had to do the job, as I got paid for rental on gear I bought more , I went without for years ,vacations… HA !( hell what was a week end off ) new clothes, a more reliable car for the wife, I took odd jobs to earn extra money to build the business. The only loan I’ve ever been able to get is for my trucks & I have had to take that out in my own name…I guess a Corp Company in this Province is automatic grounds for declining you a loan.
Although to be fair ,now that my mortgage on my property (which I had to buy in my name & then transfer into my companies name to get the loan in the first place) is paid for…I can borrow on the collateral of that property according to one of our local banks. So new trucks won’t be so hard to get…but since I’m so used to, saving to buy, I’ve already got over $10,000 saved for my next truck & don’t need one for at least another year…so that fund will continue to grow.
Sincere question here SHITD: What are you doing to support this movement? (Other than posting on here, that is)
You want to know something, in all honesty? I just learned more in reading your post (above) than I ever heard being mentioned at this or any of the Occupy protests. That’s the truth. So what does that tell you?
I’m not against them protesting. Not in the least. It’s their democratic right to do so in a peaceful manner, which, so far, it has been. I’m not knocking them for doing this. But I think what me, (and I think it would be fair to say a lot of others) don’t understand is how ANY of what you posted above equates to sitting in a tent shanty-town and occupying a public space in front of a MUNICIPAL office. (What is city hall going to do to help reverse the corruption by the banks?) That, coupled with the fact that no one has stepped up and definitively stated that THIS is what they are protesting. For the duration of this occupy movement, I’ve heard the protest was about everything from corrupt big business/corps to housing, to education, to jobs, to healthcare, to the media, even the bloody legalization of marijuana, FFS! I realize that most of these are related, (more so after reading your post), but the appearance is that there is no organization. It appears like they are all over the map and just protesting for the sake of protesting. Cause of the week. Lacking a common goal or platform. No clear direction and a lack of anyone articulate enough to put it into words that will spark any interest. Not to mention that protesters are out there banging drums and playing hackeysack and smoking dope, (Ok, I understand that what protesters do to pass their time should have little to do with the job at hand) but again, it’s all down to appearances. I also realize that this is all that the media has been focusing on, for the most part. (That’s what media does well. ..sensationalize things that make headlines and sell ad space) and maybe some of the blame should be put on us for not getting truly informed or seeking out the real truth on our own. But you got to look at it from the average person’s perspective. Generally speaking you see a bunch of typically young hipsters, squatting in a tent city on a public square, smoking up, banging their drums and holding their signs, (an image that has been broadcast thousands of times before throughout the years), protesting all these issues, that at a glance, appear to be completely different. No wonder most people aren’t taking them seriously. They are being portrayed as a rag tag group of kids that are just doing this because it seemed like a good idea at the time and to follow all the other cities that are “Occupied”. A joke. A laughing stock. Forgettable. (Again this is how it is being portrayed). They aren’t raising any awareness, (or very little), by doing it this way. I, for one, agree with Xeno on this: “I think a rally (even every Saturday for a year) to show solidarity with OWS would be great in Halifax. Occupation, especially with no clear demands or end date, is as otiose as those FB pleas to repost for the flavour of the month.”
we have grown slowly over 16 years, hopefully our house will be paid for before i croak^^
Further to my post…I think a re-read of the original bitch will illustrate my point that there appears to be no clear, unifying, direction. All these different issues at once just make the Occupy movement seem fractured and not really serious about it’s objectives.
I think they’re working on trying to come up with a unified vision and set of objectives, especially in newer locations like Halifax.
Occupy Deez Nutz.
Having your home paid for is very cool…except when something goes wrong of course. But I still put money aside off every pay, so when those occassional problems arise, I’ve got the money to pay for it.
My dad’s the one who deserves credit for teaching me to manage money.
He always made me put a little of every pay aside for unforseen problems, or so you had it if needed or when your dirtbike needed new tires. ~;)
My friends used to tease me he just didn’t want to buy them for me.
But from the time I started working at age 13, he showed me it was important to pay your bills…but always pay yourself as well.
good advice, like when your water heater blows up, or you need a new oil tank, because you won’t be insured otherwise
predatory lending practices are the devil itself.
That’s why i avoid them at all costs.
Personal responsibility. It’s awesome.
Here’s one problem as i see it. There is a lot of shit going on around us that tells us that in order to be “comfortable” we have to have access to things that go way beyond the definition of comfort (several vacations a year, ten thousand dollar weddings, a car, a nice, big house, huge christmas sprees etc)
If you want to find someone to blame, maybe it’s time to pull our brainwashed heads out of our asses and start looking toward media stereotypes of what the average north american needs to live happily and comfortably.
For example, i have one credit card. It is a pre-load credit card so i have never spent other people’s money, yet i can still shop online if necessary, book hotel rooms or airline tickets and, if the need ever arises (it hasn’t yet) rent a car.
I don’t own a car or a house. I live in downtown halifax, what do i need those things for?
We are a nation of retarded, spoiled children who have no idea how to deal with the concept of waiting for something good. When i want something, i SAVE FOR IT. I sacrifice today to have nice things tomorrow. I don’t eat at restaurants three times a week. I cook at home. I don’t go into debt to get what i want now but instead debit my current lifestyle to finance long term dreams and goals.
Yes, i had a student loan but when my degree did little for me i went to a community college, paying the tuition out of pocket to learn practical skills. And even now i don’t make a shitload of money but i have a job doing what i love and i make enough to survive intelligently.
It’s high time we stop blaming The Man for our own stupid choices and poor financial planning. The Man is responsible for many heinous things on which we need to centre our focus.
I don’t have a hot water heater.
I just have cold…right out of the well.
Actually, when I installed my new boiler (hotwater furnace) it had the option of a ‘coil’ insert for domestic hotwater. So when you need hot water the cold goes into this 60ft long coiled stainless steel tube insert that is only about 18 inches long by about 1 ft x 1 ft. this is inside the boiler unit. Saves from having to keep a 2nd tank of hot water ready all the time.
Also my boiler is only 42 inches high by 2 feet x 2 feet..supposedly able to heat up to 7000 sq ft. When I first saw it, I thought they had forgotten part of it at their shop !
we heat with oil, but the hot water is electric. we don’t use much with only the two of us
carlin sums it up for me, ik http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac
Unfortunately I work 12-15 hours a day, sometimes 6 days a week, not leaving much time for protesting. All I can do is support this by educating myself (and others when the question arises), and defending the occupation when I can. I won’t deny that I’m no occupation warrior, but when I see people ignorant of the facts trashing an otherwise solid protest because of a few wingnuts they singled out to erode validity, I have no choice but to call them out on their dumbassery. There are some posters that just degrade every bitch posted here, not for any good reason, but because they think it makes them feel better about their (likely) mundane lives.
On another topic I was listening to the radio this morning on the way to work, the EU is going to be bailing out Greece to the tune of 100 billion euro, and forcing Greek bond holders to take a 50% loss. Where did that money go? It didn’t just disappear, and my guess is that someone or some corporation/big finance organization walked away with most of it at some point, forcing an entire country into near bankruptcy.