So my son goes to a daycare in Dartmouth… he has been going there since he started school in the area, he’s in grade five now.
I was pretty appalled to find out that he isn’t allowed to drink a juice box – and that if he is hungry he has to sneak apples and baby carrots into the bathroom to eat them – so he doesn’t get into trouble.
I’ve contacted the province and they state this is new legislation to ensure there are no children suffering anaphylaxis and so that children have healthy meals and snacks. Fair enough, I’d never want to be the cause of distress (medical or otherwise) to another child and it’s great for the kids of parents who don’t know how to feed their children.
But a juice box? An apple, some baby carrots? Come one, no one has allergies to those. And the juice may not be water, but it’s not a can of coke.
The icing on the cake is that this legislation also has a clause for school age children like my son, and that the daycare has to provide a separate space for children who have meals and snacks provided by their parents, to eat them (yes let’s separate the kids who have parents that can determine their own children’s nutritional needs, from the children who have parents that would rather have the government determine everything for them).
This daycare doesn’t want to provide a separate space, and instead would rather chastise children for eating what I consider to be a pretty healthy snack.
Needless to say I called the administrator and told her Stalin called and wanted his daycare back.
I’m happy to say that my son is a latchkey kid now (as of today), and these bastards won’t get another penny from me – and hopefully the province will see fit to shut them down or revoke their license or at least do a little investigation on its own to see how private operators are interpreting the “spirit” of their legislation”.
I love my son too much and have too much respect for my son as a human being to put him in a position where he isn’t allowed to have a juice box when the desire arises, lol. —Dartmouthy
This article appears in Dec 1-7, 2011.
wow. Foolishness strikes again in the education system…
If i ever have kids, it will be unschooling all the way..
i mean.. i realize that daycare isn’t the “education system” per se and that came out wrong. But i’ve heard public schools and even some private schools aren’t much better.
LMFAO @ “Stalin called…”
D-Mouthy – for the win >: )
“Needless to say I called the administrator and told her Stalin called and wanted his daycare back.”
^^^ that. made. my. day.
Thanks!
BTW: how old are kids in grade 5? I remember going home after school by myself in late grade 5 and staying at excel for lunch… and then going home for lunch and after school in grade 6.
BUt that was then — be careful that some legislation doesn’t exist that restricts kids being by themselves before the age of 45.
Fuck sakes.
Legislation against apples and carrots? FFS.
pop… acidic and sugary….
juice…. acidic and sugary.
not sure about the apple and carrots though.
anyone know why they’re boycotting those?
and it’s not like the kids who bring lunch are left to eat in a cold, desolate, secluded room, eating cross-legged off the floor while the others are in a fun, bouncy castle dining room with silverware and fine china.
it’s just another room…. big whoop.
go dmouth go, i agree with ivan, the stalin comment was priceless
The point *is* zed, if you bothered to actually read the bitch, this particular daycare doesn’t want to provide a separate room so the kids who bring food have to sneak their food in the shitter.
I’d say having to eat in the shitter is just as bad as the room you described.
People demanded an increase of the Nanny State, and they got it.
Nutrition Nazis? Does the class look like this? Didn’t think so.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hRT_-vqPPek/STt1…
lol awesome bitch
But shitty legislation, fuck that would piss me off too. I guess if there weren’t so many shitty parents, especially shitty in that particular aspect (nutrition for their child) these laws wouldn’t have to exist.
Sad, really that the government would see a need to intervene here.
Anyone read that story about the bitch who lost custody of her kid because he was morbidly obese? They said she wouldn’t provide proper nutrition so they took him away.
Her lawyer said that her stance was that the ‘risks’ of being morbidly obese for this kid were too far down the line to be of concern now.
*eyeroll*
There is more to this argument/case. And as usual we have a cave an ruining a child life, ever think there might be good reason, like what if someone used the same knife to cut the carrots and some peanut butter while making lunch, cause by your post id not put it past you, then when a child dies cause you are a yard, you will say sorry sorry it was just a mistake, at least it was not my kid, and at least my rights are protected, fuck everyone else right. So long as you can eat carrots?
Yeah schools in regards to nutrition are FUCKED. When I was in high school, they took out the pop machines (which had diet pop which I looove) and replaced them with like Tropicana Twister and Powerade machines. LIKE WTF. That crap is just as bad for you as pop! And their “healthy” solution to pizza in the cafeteria was to use this multigrain crust… so like the grease pizza had crust with seeds and shit in it. I can remember when I was in elementary school, some of those years I went to Excel after school and the drink they would serve us was this massive tub of No-Name purple drank crystals, fucked I loooved that shit haha. I was a latchkey kid and loved it and I think it made me more independent so I think you’re doing the right thing there OP.
I’m soo glad I’m not raising a child today (or ever), there are way too many restrictions and crap that parents are supposed to follow or else they’re considered a bad parent. Like, I remember they announced on the radio that a company was recalling kids pajamas because they could catch fire. WELL DUH. I think most clothes can catch fire but if some dumbass drops cigarette ashes on their baby and their clothes catch fire, they recall the clothes. I really hate the world.
I suppose children could choke on a piece of carrot or an apple…….maybe? But then again, in the northend the prosti-tots in grade five are choking down more than Adam’s apple.
There is more to this argument/case. And as usual we have a caveman ruining a child life, ever think there might be good reason, like what if someone used the same knife to cut the carrots and some peanut butter got on it while while making lunch, cause by your post id not put it past you, then when a child dies cause you are a tard, you will say sorry sorry it was just a mistake, at least it was not my kid, and at least my rights are protected, fuck everyone else right. So long as you can eat carrots?
Valid Bitch!!:D I also Loved the Stalin part!!:D That is the craziest thing that I have ever heard of! Wow! I can completely empathize also, I once got chastized for giving my little guy a mini box of smarties with his recess of baby carrots and apple smidges(after Halloween) Nutritional nazis indeed! 😀
I think it’s because some little McGyver might use his juice box and baby carrot to make a *gasp* GUN and therefore promote militarism at the pre-school level, condition himself to the use of violence in conflict resolution, and therefore tacitly support the Conservative’s omnibus crime bill. And an apple, of course, makes a prety good hand grenade.
The government is allowed to legislate that children MUST eat healthy snacks??? Then they can legislate where children, not relying on the daycare for their healthy snacks, can eat their home provided healthy snacks???
I think the government has missed the point of the government. The whole not bringing peanut butter I understand, but when it comes to apples, carrots and juiceboxes, this is ridiculous. If children have that many allergies they should be legislated to attend special private schools paid for by the parents of the allergic child.
There is a huge difference between an intolerance to certain foods and a deadly allergic reaction. Just because your child cannot eat some foods does not mean they will have an anaphylactic reaction.
Jim Kramer…the rights of one person should never outweigh the rights of another.
So if I want to eat carrots or god forbid peanut butter, I’m going to. If I chose to feed that to my grand kid, I’m going to & I don’t give a shit that you or little sally may be allergic to it. That’s your problem, not mine.
While I can see the problem with small children possibly sharing their frood at school & someone who is allergic getting into anothers peanut butter cookie could cause a problem. THat is no reason any child can’t drink from a juice box.
With this type of ridiculous logic today, has the milk program been cancelled for kids in school ?
After all I know of kids who are lactose intollerant, so because a couple of children can’t digest milk…all kid’s are not allowed to have milk ! I know when my children were in school, the ones who couldn’t drink milk, got juice…what a concept ‘eh…give them something else !
I grow so irritated when I read foolishness being pushed down the throats of people by the assholes who proudly wear the label of politically correct.
I personally believe the symbol for politically correct should be a swastika, lets see them wear that & walk around in public with head raised high !
Zeig Heil !
I wouldn’t be the least surprised to open the newspaper & see peanut butter banned in Canada. Just because a small number of persons might possibly come in contact with it & die.
TIme to rid ourselves of automobiles…thousands of people get killed by them each year & while I’m unclear if any were alergic to them, but they died so ban them. I read a story recently about a person choking to death on a bread crust i believe it was…do we now rid ourselves of bread ?
I would not in the least be surprised to hear that some politically correct group is considering it.
Ya said the magic words, nazi and don’t give a shit. The words that go hand in hand, you are stupid bud, and i would love to have this convo in a public in person forum, cause i want to see your eyes as you say these things, there is nothing funnier than the blank stare of a zellot. But no you would never spout this BS in person because you would be laughed out of any public place with this stance. I bet ya don’t stop at cross walks do ya, well I help old ppl with their groceries and have saved peoples lives a few times that I never knew, once a small child running into traffic. Im sure you are too drunk or stupid to help anyone, I feel sorry for your children people, those poor little guys 🙁
And yes, PK I heard about that case. It’s about time. I know a guy who is seriously fucked up and obese because his mom is a total pushover. Enabling is one of the worst kinds of abuse. You’re not doing your kids any favors by just giving them what they want all the time. They don’t know what’s good for them. If it was up to me when I was a kid I would have lived on junk food, luckily my parents had the word no in their vocabulary. Too bad the same can’t be said for all parents. They should make expecting parents say the word no a hundred times a day before the kid is born, so they get used to it.
But but but we need the Nanny State cause we all be stupid and not now nuthin. nanny nows best I must obey nanny where is my Mao suit.
Fuck no wonder kids are allergic to everything, they’re not allowed to do anything. What they need is a good wallow in a swamp to build up their anitbodies.
Actually, OB, there ARE people who have allergies to things like apples and baby carrots and they WILL go into anaphylactic shock as a result of being exposed.
Case in point – I know someone who is severely allergic to carrots – regular-sized or baby-sized. They will go into full-blown anaphylactic shock if they are exposed – even in trace amounts.
I will admit, it’s a strange allergy and not one that comes to mind when you hear the term “food allergy”. But then again, food-related allergies have gone completely haywire over the last few years for some reason, so it shouldn’t be surprising that people are taking reactions over seemingly benign foods.
The daycare obviously have the ban in effect for a reason and I would suspect that it’s likely due to the fact is at least a child or two that have allergies to apples and carrots.
So, OB, perhaps you should call the daycare back and apologize for your stupidity and ignorance about food allergies.
Yes a nanny state, yep having social rules is wrong right. Shall we be able to drink in public, where is the line drawn.? As usual children don’t like rules, guess what kids. You Ned to read books cause your brain works much too slow to advance far enough fast enough to take part in society other than to be a contrarian …
Jim Kramer…the majic words bud are – ” The rights of one person should never out weigh the rights of another”
But you are obviously to dim to get that.
Not giving a shit & calling idiots nazi’s, is exactly how I feel about those who believe that they should have the right to take a juice box away from my kid & is exactly what I would say to such a person in public, &
whether you believe it or not means SFA dude.
okie dokie let’s meet and have this talk in person, or are you a coward?
See I want to have these talks/debates in public, no more hiding. You believe safe guarding children from your ignorance is infringing on your rights? Are speed limits in the same categorie ?, what about when cities have curfews for ppl under 18 ?
Where is the line idiot?. If you meet me for a debate and you become aggressive verbally and are spitting in my face like a mad dog, is that your right?, when the police drag you to the hospital for an evaluation, is that within their rights, you seem to be very lame brained buddy, you said you have grand kids? Does three generations of ignorance devolve to throwing pool directly from the source?, and is that also your right also.?
I sometimes feel bad for the ways I must speak to communicate on your level but when i realize embracing your type of ideals leads to madness and book burning, its hard for book learned ppl to understand how the nazi’s followers ie: German,s, didnt stand up to hitler and stop the murders.?, because they thought they were right and it got out of hand too fast for people to stop it. That’s where your line of thought leads dude. It I not your fault per sey, its just you are allowing your emotions to cloud reality from your gleen. No one really cares about you or your kid, we just want the kids to be safe. Your opinion is invalid because contrary to your belief the fact is your kid wont die from lack of carrots or apple juice, but may cause a death with them. And you are not allowed to burn everyone in ovens just cause they lack foreskin or live in a caravan, get it dude, you are a monster and are harming your children with your ignorance.
You don’t see offices instigating such bullshit rules for their staff to prevent cases of anaphylaxis. Let kids eat their peanut butter and jam sandwiches!
Who the hell is this Jim Kramer? I can’t understand a word he says because he often uses the wrong one and doesn’t use punctuation. I hope you don’t have children of your own Jim, because you sound like a complete moron. Wanting to “meet up” with someone on the internet because they don’t agree with you? How old are you?
Also, I think aliens have invaded Sebastian or inserted some sort of mind-altering anal probe. Where is the insults about fatties and their food? Where is the insults about breeders? WTF!!!!
Yes I want to have a convo with people without them being able to say rediculas bullshit, don’t say stupid things online if you wont in person. And jim kramer is the person who has had enough of idiots running then world who think I should bother to hit shift a million times so you can read it like your teachers taught you. I do not conform, will not conform, it is your job to be a good and respectful person or else let’s meet in public and see if you still spout the most moronic things your brain can fathom at that moment, cause i want to laugh and antagonize ignorant ppl into violence so i can prove the point that cave men bash with club, where humans discuss things and come to a consences.
“I do not conform, will not conform…” LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Hahaaa nice try. Acting like refusing to write coherently is some form of protest is amazing. Also what is “rediculas bullshit”? Are there different types of bullshit? Is “rediculas” a Spanish word or something? Why can’t people say that phrase? I think I’m going to start to say “rediculas bullshit” to everyone I see today, just because. Maybe it will become some hip phrase. And no thanks to the whole meeting up thing, I like not getting raped or murdered.
“Oh my suds and body. A history lesson. You just never know what you’ll get every day when you come to work on the Green Mile”
Jim, I fear you may have confused LTWWB with Halifax Match.
And on and on with nonsence, wonder why society is falling apart ? It is falling apart because you people are lazy and ignorant, you cant attack my posts substance so you attack punctuation and grammar? Once again cowards
I missed the part about them not providing the separate room…
I would LOVE to see Jim in a debate….
I’ll even make sure to reserve that short bus you take so you can get there on time.
I think you meant ‘meat up’… and sebastian’s completely available for all your meat related inquiries and injections.
Jim “safe guarding children from my ignorance” What in the fuck are you talking about ?
What does any of what I wrote have to do with the posted speed limit ?!?
Do you even know ,or do you need a translator to get that, making a child…any child drink a juice box or eat in a bathroom is WRONG.
While popping in here for a few minutes , is something I can do from the comfort of my home.
Driving all the way to the city to meet some bozo who can’t even articulate a half decent reply sure isn’t going to happen any time soon.
WHich also hasn’t happened in me visiting a bitch summit…& there are several people that I actually like on here that I wouldn’t mind meeting, but work scheduals, my business & family commitments & the little personal time I get to myself, is way more important than going any where near a nut case like yourself.
Im no nutcase and i believe I have proved my point, you don’t understand anything outside your blinders. Which is why you will end up having your kid takon away. You are a coward and it is just that simple
Jim buddy….my kid’s are grown with family’s of their own.
I’m a grandpa now & in no danger of having anyone take anything away from me.
Still waiting for your explaination to my questions
If you look back you can tell which ones are questions by the –?– sign at the end of the string of words… maybe see if a neighbor or someone else can help you.
i was thinking, perhaps, the redeemer or sir wp could help
You sound like you’re a lot of laughs there Jim Kramer. Life’s too short to retain a lot of anger over stupid stuff. Maybe you have Season Affected Disorder-the Christmas blues. Get one of those lamps that shine natural light and sit in front for fifteen minutes each morning. It’s amazing how much better you’ll feel.
yep, my grand daughter had same problem. that’s why her mom took her out of there. when i picked her up at home in early morn, when mom was on way to work, we had 30 minutes to kill.
the place did not open til 7:30 a.m., and we used to hit timmie’s on wyse rd. she used to take her cookie and whatever choco milk with her, but we found out, that they dumped it out and threw her cookie away.
claimed it was because some other kids have allergies to shit, and didn’t want to chance them getting a bad food item. was i ever fucking pissed. those fucking cookies are over a buck each, and what the hell about the milk. most kids know what not to touch.
Listen to answer your rhetorical ignorant question, its not an afront to your rights to safeguard other children. You seem to think you only need to follow rules you like, and protecting your children from you, or your grandchildren is like this.
Maybe your ideals worked to raise children 20-40 yrs ago, you are out dated and useless to society, actually you harm it, you seem to believe attacking others in childish ways might scare normal sheep away. I am not scared of you coward, you have no intelligence from this millennia so why don’t ya just die and make room for the people who must now clean up your mess.
Your type of ideals are the basis for why so many children were molested and shit in those times, as for the speed limit part, jesus your dense dude, its a reference to laws and i asked which you do and do not follow.
But instead of answering you ask more stupid questions and continue to defend a position which is illegal because of people like you, who believe allergies are for pussies and they should walk it off.
The only word that fits your ignorant stance, COWARD, you need to grow up, your infantile attitude is not becoming of an elderly man.
Oh shit, Jimmy just dropped the s-bomb.
Jimmy deployed it yesterday, as well, Agent-195. Blew up in his face then, too. Just like the Islamist suicide bombers who only ever read one book in their lives and it wasn’t “Electric Wiring For Dummies, 3rd ed.”
I’ll take “mental health issues” for 600$, Alex.
http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2008/0…
And as usual ya can attack the substance right? And my words scare ya don’t they, the world is changing, and i can’t wait to see the zellots burn
you don’t like the zellots? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ENkgN9_5QU
Jim, I’m finding a lot of your responses… well to be rather off on a different tangent , to be kind
You keep bringing up child abuse & molesting WTF !!
I certainly am not a child abuser. How did you come up with child abuse & me somehow being a part of that type of behaviour ?
As for elderly…that’s a state of mind IMO dude. So its no where in my near future l o l
As for the way I raised my kids being wrong…well I raised them the way I was raised, I also, was never abused, neither were my siblings.
Laws ,particularly stupid laws are made to be broken. Having & drinking a juice box isn’t illegal in Canada (& I checked) it may be against a ‘rule’ of some over priced so called child care facility…but that doesn’t make it a law.
Forcing a child to go into a bathroom to drink a juice box should definately be illegal IMO.
Its been a slice chatting with you Jim Kramer, but I think I’ll bow out & not bother nourishing the troll any more, as some might say.
If you want to call me coward again or any other labels that make you feel all good about yourself. You go right ahead if that’s what floats you boat. I’m happy to be the recipient of your venom.
Have a nice day, be careful of the sliced carrot sticks
MM on some drug induced rant?
First rule of communication, speak or write in such a way that others can understand you. That includes, using spelling, puncuation, and grammar. If you write like an uneducated gangbanger, then people will ignore you.
I don’t think so Ossifer T. He is completely lacking Montrealman’s wit, charm ,eloquence and understated ability to make new friends. >; )
http://ncnblogger.files.wordpress.com/2011…
This Jim guy is worse than an ostrich with his head firmly planted in the sand….
http://bboypiecez.files.wordpress.com/2010…
and he apparently likes the place.
He has Oldhand’s mission driven sense of a Quixotic destiny combined with Laerrus’ victimized paranoia. A self-proclaimed Internet messiah with a paucity of followers. He must be extra pissed-off because Jim Jones and David Koresh made it look so easy.
Um humm jackass, you know very well you have no retort to any of the things I said at all, read what i said dude, no its not all perfect for you lol. You will make this world worse for your family this way. And I’ll be there to explain, it was your fault. Im sorry that you are lame brained, and can’t keep up or recognize art if its outside your liking, as usual you wasted all this time devsluing instead of hearing the message, which is why that law is there. I’ve tried to explain, in full form. Not enough periods and commas to suit your little brain, jesus I hope you are still alive to see your grandson kiss another boy, you are a big got, and like most of that type there is not discussion, only labels and assertions, with name calling and distracting from the topic.
The only retort to your “message” Reverend Jim is that playing Boggle whilst tweaked on crystal meth is not a victimless crime. If you wanted to engage in a Battle of Wits, you probably shouldn’t have declared yourself a Conscientious Objector. >: )
We’d likely come up with ‘retort[s]’ if we could actually figure out what you’re trying to say.
It’s not just the lack of periods and commas — you couldn’t string together a legible sentence if your life depended on it, dude.
All I keep getting out of your illiterate rants (and I’m a professional editor and can read and make sense out of anything, so saying your writing is illegible is sayin’ somethin’) is “you’re wrong and useless to society and i’m going to laugh in your face when the world finds out you’re wrong and useless”…. or something.
I mean, help me understand here, bud, because I”d be happy to retort, and *gasp* maybe even agree with what you’re saying, but my GOD, Jim, no one understands what you’re saying….. and you just getting angrier and angrier about it is just making you a LTWWB joke and just baiting the regulars into teasing you.
Somewhat surprised to find myself as the voice of reason, I am. Sometimes when you wait and read all the responses in one go, you have a larger perspective.
1. I think what Jim is trying to say is that if children are allowed in a school setting to have a food item that will make another child deathly ill, than “The rights of one person DO out weigh the rights of another”
2. Clearly, the man wants to debate ftf, because he can’t articulate his meaning when he is writing. Ah, where are the salons of days gone by?
3. LS: Cookie and chocky milk for breakfast? Too bad you weren’t around for the ten a.m. sugar crash…don’t blame the teachers for not liking it, but they should have told you first.
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Um humm jackass
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The first three words of my favourite Christmas carol!
This could be Hamjob or Loserus. The crazy is palpable.
okay you stupid face, masher hoebag Jimbo. ,this is my extending branch of olives to attempt to sit on your stoop level, at least douche, im making all the efforts since your pressing of the keylogging is clearly not up to one less than a bogey. now crazypersonsayswhat?
“I’m a big got, now”
http://www.anvari.org/db/cols/The_Simpsons…
“1. I think what Jim is trying to say is that if children are allowed in a school setting to have a food item that will make another child deathly ill, than “The rights of one person DO out weigh the rights of another”
Ok, well in that case I agree.
Death >>>>>> preference of food
And as i thought, when my next day off came, id come back and you would be shamed. See bud I don’t have anything to loose or gain, but i sure like pushing people who can’t even understand simple things to their breaking point. Open up the public debates, let’s see who’s on meth and who is stupid. The game is on and y’all who don’t realize it gonna pay dearly. This entire convo is the reason we have coal generated power and no proper medical care. Thsts why I want them to shut down pensions until we make the old pay back what the stole or allowed stolen. Starve bitches.
There are rules. Feed your kid breakfast. They can’t be munching in class. That was never allowed while I was growing up. There is a designated time for recess and lunch. I never buy juice, its full of sugar and empty calories and coloring which causes ADHD in kids. The reason for the segregation would be allergies, i.e. peanuts/peanut butter. Some people become deathly ill from just the smell & kids that age get food all over them then play with each other. They can’t have that.
Thanks for all your comments everyone! I actually didn’t think they posted this bitch until one of my friends told me they saw this and knew it must be from me! lol.
In response to some of the most egregious comments:
My son is 11, so he’s not a tot any more, and really what was I thinking keeping him in this shit hole? Anyway he is happy to be a latch key kid now, and it was a good lesson for him what happens when you vote NDP 😉
I work at the IWK so contrary to what some may think I do actually know about food allergies and anaphylaxis in particular – and as another commenter mentioned, the separate room issue is what really gets my gander. I have no problem with my son, or me, being sensitive to the needs of others (even if it is a 1 in a million allergy like carrot allergies…)
But that being said, the daycare itself serves their own carrots – so they too would be guilty of being so “ignorant” about food allergies. It’s not about food allergies, or the welfare or nutrition of children.
It’s all about control. They weren’t “government approved” carrots…
I just HAD to put my foot down, and let everyone who would listen know what is happening in this province!!
Thanks again for your comments everybody. 🙂
excellent d’mouth, i’m glad they printed that one. i haven’t seen the paper edition
When can I expect we will ban all of these things from our children’s schools and daycares since they all have the possibility of inducing anaphylaxis?
Banana, cucumber, melon (watermelon, honeydew or cantaloupe), zucchini, sunflower seeds, chamomile tea, echinacea, pear, apple, peach, cherry, carrot, plum, apricot, potato, celery, kiwi, hazelnut, almond, celery, apple, carrot or melon, anise, fennel, coriander and cumin, oranges, melons, tomatoes, peanuts, fish, penicillins, anaesthetic drugs, intravenous infusion liquids, Aspirin, rubber latex gloves, catheters, other medical products, figs, tomatoes, Bee or wasp (yellow jacket) stings…. and on and on and on…
THINK OF THE CHILDREN! lol
Thanks paingirl 🙂