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What’s wrong with you vegans? It’s not chicken salad if there’s no chicken in it!
I’m sick of this. Look up the definition of butcher. You cannot be a butcher if you’re talking about vegetables. I’m tired of these vegans spreading their propaganda.
—Make meat great again
This article appears in Jan 3-9, 2019.
12 Comments
Lol, “calm and reasonable opinions”
You and me both, buddy. In all fairness to vegans, if you think you’re saving animals and being an environmental crusader, good for you, live and let live. But you have no good enough reason to cram it down everybody else’s throat by spreading it around at every restaurant, store and street. I can’t even go down Barrington anymore without that dumbass PETA “I’m me, not meat” lobster poster at the bus shelter. Give it a rest! You won’t change anybody’s dietary habits by shoving propaganda at them any more than you would if you stalked them day and night.
I think it’s important to note that the exact same could be said about meat and dairy products.
Words like free-range, cruelty-free, and humane, are nothing more than buzzwords to make the average consumer feel better about the decisions they make. They have absolutely no way anything to do with the life of the animal whos exploited or slaughtered. There’s no humane way to kill something that doesn’t want to die, therefore in order to claim a word like butcher as meat only, then the meat, dairy, and egg industry need to follow suit and stop using words that lie to their customers about what actually happens, and what they’re actually consuming. When that propaganda stops…you can keep the word butcher. -Allie, Make Compassion Cool Again
It’s just another failed business idea in the making. Today, roast Bessie; tomorrow, Petunia and Clara loses her head on Wednesday!
*Ladies: I am referring to a cow, a pig and a chicken – not women…
when people say things like… vegans – you have your beliefs and I have mine, as if they are 2 equal sides, this is the very definition of a false equivalency argument. The 2 sides of it re not the same thing, because one of these choices had a victim.
Yeah it is ‘funny’ Ty…if they were 2 equal sides the meat eaters would be the ones cramming it down our throats! The are signs EVERYWHERE…and I mean not only generally of meat but also signs attacking vegans (the recent Arby’s ad campaign springs to mind but there are others). It is important to remember I might add that we need to keep in mind that not only are we hurting the animals directly by our food choices but that animal agriculture is responsible for playing a major role in most if not all major environmental issues…destroying the water (so many humans are dying of thirst these days as a result), land (animal agriculture occupys 60% of all land on Earth and leads to destruction of rainforest etc), it take 15-28 times the land to produce meat vs veggies and human children are starving to death, entire nations are kept as virtual slaves to provide the necessary labour…I honest could go on for awhile but you get the idea…then to turn around and say how dare we say anything…that is like a serial killer suggesting the same…’how dare you push your views of not killing these folks on me?!’…and that is a fair analogy with millions dying all of the time as a result…
@Ty_Savoy Cry me a river. I love how it’s okay to wipe out entire habitats and destroy the environment for soybean and coconut oil production (where are all the vegans then? Too busy reaping the benefits?), but eating meat has “victims”. Veganism is not victimless, either. And don’t pretend your iPhone or soy latte or Lululemon pants are any more sustainable; vegans cherry-pick things to feel better about themselves and think that because they are not actively using animal products, they are not hurting animals.
Stop disliking my comments… hurts my feelings.
@Jeff Jeff Do you know where over 95% of soy goes? To feed livestock…if you eat animal products you consume more soy…entire habitats are destroyed because of the growing need for space because of the growing need for animal products…60% of all land is used for livestock or livestock feed…it takes anywhere from 15-28 times the land for animal products vs eating plants directly…the very definition of veganism includes the words ‘avoiding animal products as far as reasonably possible and practicable…’ that is nobody claimed it was without the use of any…and certainly some products considered vegan are non sustainable…the community continues to learn and grow…if everyone on Earth sat around drinking soy lattes in Lululemons on iPhones the environment would be far better off however…
Someone disliked my comment…but they sure have nothing to say!
@Jeff Rockwell And where exactly are you getting this from? Actually, a lot of the things going to feed livestock, especially chickens, are grain (not seed so much), fillers and… other chickens. I’m not kidding, it’s cheaper for factory farms. But I digress. It’s not just about soy, which already appears in numerous products, it’s that vegans are really no better than meat eaters yet continue to talk down to people as if they’re ignorant. There’s nothing wrong with sustainably eating meat, and I’d gladly eat that high horse you’re riding on, too. I’m more in support of sustainable local farming for meat/vegetables than this constant trendy hype about banning meat and “cows are our equals!” and all that rhetoric. iPhones are a horrible source of pollution. Many consumer electronics are. Shipped overseas and dumped so heavy metals can ruin the water, kill fish, hurt people, and nobody here ever cares – they can feel for a cow being slaughtered but not a kid across the world is being contaminated with our e-waste and garbage. I’ve yet to see a vegan who didn’t go run out any buy the latest cell phone or electronic gizmo even if their old ones worked perfectly fine. I’ve yet to see a vegan give up their sweatshop-sewn jeans or their cruise vacations or their Apple laptops – like the best of us, they’re human like everybody else. The only difference is they go out of their way to make other people feel bad about that. A real pot calling the kettle black situation. I got no beef with vegans (pardon the pun) who just live that lifestyle and don’t try to push it onto anybody else, that’s cool, no problem there. It’s the pushy vegans who are shooting their own movement in the foot, always guilt-tripping and looking for every opportunity to make a ridiculous scene over nothing.
Back to the original Bitch… I think we need to treat one another fundamentally with respect, and butchering in other places aside from North America is an actual craft. Like, in Germany, you have to go to school. Like 2 years of study. I was once told by someone from Germany that they would be arrested back home if they did what we do here to meat.
That’s messed up.
Facts are facts, though, and the lifestyle of meat-eating is different from the choice to eat/not eat meat. We need to re-naturalize our typical lifestyle. That doesn’t happen in a decade, that doesn’t even happen in a generation.
I get what the posters are for and all, though it’s ironically unsustainable. Your children’s children aren’t going to see those posters, however they WILL inherit the recipes you create, the culture you build around the dinner table.
The real work is shutting up about it and just doing it quietly because you know it’s right. So if eating meat is right for you, fine, and if going vegan is right, then fine. Just please stop dehumanizing each other, because the animals… in my humble opinion… don’t need us to save them. They belong to the continuum, they don’t have goals or expectations, they just go with it– not without obvious changes in behavior due to stress and trauma, yet humans have the much more complex issue, typically these days and in this part of the world anyhow– of having a damaged continuum. If our continuum weren’t damaged, we would already know exactly what to eat and how much and when.
I’ve known plenty of vegans with eating disorders. Just fill your cup before trying to help, folks.