Maybe to appease anyone with a bee in their bonnet without researching any part of their claim. Reminds me of the video of the Vietnamese shooting the Viet Cong in the head and how people went bananas without researching the event. Obviously these assholes never opened one of their own fuckin’ history books. Is there no limit to how stupid or pathetic these org’s can be when any remotely controversial incident happens? Should we now change Halifax’s name too, since Cornwallis was instrumental in founding it? Maybe we should petition to change Mic Mac Mall’s name since the Mi’kmaq were just as guilty of these scalping atrocities as Cornwallis. The French employed this tactic against the Brits, so let’s start getting all French names off of buildings in HRM. Why do these organizations run blindly to a corner and stick their heads up their asses when confronted by one of these revisionists? Why not tell the guy “Hmmm, there were lots of incidents on both sides so PFO”. —Sick of Appeasing Every Nut Bar
This article appears in Jun 23-29, 2011.


If you don’t like it go back to where you came from.
heh
with answers like these, perhaps we should just burn all the schools down anyways.
http://209.85.12.234/1040/130/upload/p8346…
http://www.school-survival.net/comic_relie…
http://dallasisdblog.dallasnews.com/Fun%20…
http://jsty.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/fu…
Removing the name Cornwallis will likely be the biggest accomplishment by the Native Canadian committee for this decade. I think the Native Community has far more serious issues to address than the name of a school.
Funny you should mention this, OP – I had just started reading Thomas Raddall’s ‘Halifax: Warden of the North’, a history of this burg – among its many interesting relevations was this:
‘…the Indian hostility was clearly French-inspired; in fact, the Mi’kmaq had a constant market for ENGLISH SCALPS in Louisbourg and other French posts to the north.’
So, Cornwallis School, stop trying to rewrite fucking history – both sides had blood on their hands when it came to the scalping biz.
Not the Native Canadians, seb, but the Nova Scotia Mi’kmaq.
“So, Cornwallis School, stop trying to rewrite fucking history – both sides had blood on their hands when it came to the scalping biz.”
So the Nazis were right to defend against The Allies in WW2 because both sides had blood on their hands.
FYI, TTFN:
Scalping was not a practice done by The Mi’kmaq before Europeans arrived. Think about it; there was no concept of money or bounty here so what would the point of scalping be? There was none. If there were battles, there were battles and maybe people died. Most of the time any conflict between individuals and groups were solved by communications and mediation by community elders. To say Mi’kmaq practiced scalping for money is BS.
My point is that YOU CANNOT REWRITE FUCKING HISTORY. Period. Were the Mi’kmaq forced to scalp? No – they did it for trade. Read your N.S. History, boyo (which happens to be one of my specialities) and and you’ll see it’s quite true that goods were traded for English scalps – that the practice originated elsewhere is totally irrelevant – the point is that the Mi’kmaq did scalp and so did the English.
Not scalping for profit – for shits and giggles, for fun. Don’t give me that “We give the captured warrior the chance to prove his bravery” moose shit. Aboriginal conflicts may not have gotten genocidal in scale until us “illegal immigrants” showed up; but the ritualistic barbarities visited on captives would make a modern day serial killer either nauseous or envious that he didn’t think of it first.
Thanks for that, Ivaniski – it drives me nuts when people try to whitewash the facts for the sake of political correctness. A tug of my forelock to OP.
No offense, but NS history is ‘one of your specialties’ and you’re just reading Warden of the North now?
Anyway…… I read it years ago and loved it (probably due for a re-read).
Though, I think most ‘historians’ would agree that using one antiquated source for backing up an agrument is well, not even up to elementary grade level, no?
Nobody is trying to rewrite history and I do not know where that argument comes from. It’s amusing to hear it. Scalped for trade? I know it’s bogus. What the fuck is somebody going to do with a scalp but feed it to Santa’s Little Helper?
Think you folks subscribe to Jack and the Beanstalk idea with this whole scalping thing. Imagine if Jack showed up with a scalp after trading in the family bear. Classic Eurocentric thinking.
It’s not white-washing but it is education.
And Ivan, everything you’re saying is just opinion with no back-up but I should just chalk that up to typical right-wing thinking where white is always right. Our warriors are braver than any CF member and that is utmost truth.
LOL @ “aboriginal genocide until we came.” You sound like the would-be serial killer who is grossed out that he didn’t think of it first – you know, if it actually happened the way you so it did, which it didn’t. I don’t blame you for apologizing for your sins and but you’re still my brother!
I’ve read Warden of the North five times, Crank, first time when I was twelve. Too bad the history of the city after the war is so sparse – it really does need a proper update.
Hey, Mr. Donair, do some research because you’re pretty fucking ignorant when it comes to the history of this province. I may be no expert but I have done plenty of research on this part of our history. Therefore, I will not argue with an idiot.
T: I kinda thought this wasn’t your first go round but figured what the hey…. most people read it more than once, I’m guessing. Wish there was more. The NS Archives are a good way to kill a saturday afternoon, too.
Scalping was done by Natives long before the white man, settlers or whatever landed. The colonists learned scalping from the Natives. I know sometimes the truth hurts.
We gave them the technology to take inter-tribal warfare to the level of genocide. And we manipulated many tribes into doing it for us. Not exactly something for us to be proud of, but it happened. It’s history, written and documented. Not oral history, not passed down through generations, not carved into stones, not the product of a vision, not prettied up for the sake of self-esteem. In other words – fact.
And your comments about the CF are sufficient to convince me that you wouldn’t recognize truth if it came delivered to your door, once a month in a Government of Canada envelope.
Done that on many occasions way back when, Crank. Wonder if they still got those old Fish machines they used for looking through old newspapers – yeah, right. Once I have a little more time off this summer, that is going to be my number one dropping off spot.
Ivan, that last line was fucking brilliant. I had to pound my head on the keyboard several times to stop myself laughing. Now I have an R and a J jammed up my nose.
… the internets seem pretty split on this issue. It’s funny to see it manifest here though. Party on.
Simple minds with simple retorts. I’m not laughing with a J up my nose because I have some self-respect and class but am smiling with the forked tongue behind my tight lips. It’s rewarding when people are wrong and just keep talking and talking. 🙂
… I can’t believe … I can’t. Oh boy … …
i went to cornwallis….. i think its stupid they changed the name. people dont have better things to do with their time…. really???
i want cumberland county re-named
“And your comments about the CF are sufficient to convince me that you wouldn’t recognize truth if it came delivered to your door, once a month in a Government of Canada envelope.”
What kind of lies would you attach to a rent cheque?
“So the Nazis were right to defend against The Allies in WW2 because both sides had blood on their hands.”
Posted by Donairious NDN
What a moronic non-sequitur. Not another 12-yr-old who just got high-speed *sheeeeesh* stay on topic…
Hey, if there’s blood on both hands then nobody is the good guy right? Right.
I’m carding TTFN for non PC use of the word “whitewashed” in an earlier post tsk, tsk that’s pretty offensive 🙂
I just read up on this because I wasn’t really aware this was going on.
I hate when people want to take today’s societal norms and impose them hundreds of years ago.
Back then shit was different, attitudes were different, people weren’t fucking politically correct, they came, saw, and conquered. They did what they had to do for us to call this great land home.
Not saying what happened to the natives isn’t an atrocity, but why dwell on the past? It happened. Changing the name of a fucking Jr High isn’t going to change a damn thing. I think with as many problems as the Native community has this should be the least of their worries. Who is this helping?
People want to argue about why or why not it shouldn’t be changed.. who put the bounty on who first. Do any of you honestly think it matters? I sure as shit don’t.
We seriously, seriously need to think about the future.
This Cornwallis issue is the result of sanctimonious grandstanding group think by the far left activists that serve on the board.
Lovely eh?
So establishing Usama bin Laden Airforce Academy at Ground Zero would be valid in your logic right? People need to learn to fly better around NYC and those big buildings. New pilots could learn CIA tactics at the same time.
O.K., instead of w—-wash, how ’bout bakingsodaandvinegarwash?
Can I have a red card?
Who was here before the mic macs?. Maybe they were early, early Mormons who stumbled upon the delights of caffeine, liquor and pussy. Decided to set up shop in Shitville, make a city that specifically wouldn’t be able to have bike lanes, a transit system that blows goats, and a system of government that perpetually fucks over the populace, is considering paying for parking around the common, is looking at introducing a fee if you enter the sacred downtown by car that looks like Dresden after the Allies had bombed the flying fuck out of it.
whats next changing the street names(named after our fallen soldiers) because some enemor ex-enemy of our is offended.
you may have been brave but you were stupid as hell in the way you fought wars.
the brits arrive (i think 25 yrs after the french which the natives were allied with) how far from their base of operations were the brits.,landing in the natives backyard and their was nothing natives or the french could do about it.what a joke,i would feel great shame if i was native, and i do feel shame for being french.
TTFN what was the date of the dartmouth massacre which (i may be wrong) was why cornwallis posted the well deserved scalp bouny.
an ancient greek army would have destroyed the natives.warriors yeah right,i would prefer to say lambs,and we all know what happens to lambs when comfronting lions.
their future generations whine.lol
I agree somewhat with Tommy Jules that we need to focus on the future but, that said, understanding history and how it shaped our society is exceedingly important. You can’t just say “the past is the past, move on”, not in all circumstances. The gas chambers of Auschwitz are an example of what I mean. The carnage in Rwanda a more recent example. We need to debate and analyze these events, try to understand why they happened to keep them from happening again.
New political direction (in this case ethnic sensitivity) can spur on more debate and even change as in the case of the school name-change.
The Soviet fall of 1991 caused a lot of Stalin busts to roll. Speaking of Stalin, Nikita Kruschev changed the name of the city of Stalingrad to Volgograd back in the sixties to help expunge the recent memory of Stalinism. 1960s Soviet political correctness so to speak.
If we want to change names of things to help right past wrongs, I have no problem with that. As long as it is done with intelligent debate and input from all sides.
This is just as stupid an idea as the one where they have rewritten Tom Sawyer & Huck Finn, to remove the word “nigger” & in each case replace it withthe word “slave” !
So the way I see it, in another generation or 2 the word slave will become just as repulsive to the ‘head shoved up ass crowd’ as the “N” word is & they’ll change it again to indentured servant.
Before too many more years go by, there won’t be any historical evidence that slavery was actively practiced in the US.
Rewritting history to passify some asshole, IMO completely goes against the wise saying of ” those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it”
And exactly how can you learn anything , from history,when the truth has been covered up ? ? ?
Future generations whine? Not about paying taxes and having free health care, education, etc. Whiners? Come on; we’re not white 😉
Who’s talking about rewriting history More? I think just the opposite, understand history just as it happened. My issue is with honouring someone who is offensive to a large segment of our society for historical reasons.
I agree with you about the Huck Finn issue because it is a piece of literature, a slice of life for that particular era. That IS rewiting history to start changing the words of a classic piece of literature.
as long as you guys leave me the scottish poet, i don’t much cur
Das Reich has to be the most disgusting thing to ever find this corner of the internets. Makes More look like a soft cuddly cute bunny.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_PahQ_WZpScw/TKCP…
“They did what they had to do for us to call this great land home.” – tommyjules902
they did what they had to do??
bullshit.
there’s no point arguing in the many ways our “homeland” is NOT great.. but seriously??
it’s ok that our ancestors enacted genocide all because now we can pretend we live in a just and enlightened society because there’s wifi, and tim horton’s and a huge shopping mall named after our “indians”, yet spelled wrong.
in newfoundland the Beothuk were completely wiped out, yet i remember the huge celebration in 1997 for the 500th anniversary of cabot’s arrival.
amherst, ns is named after an english baron who distributed small pox infested blankets to the mi’kmaq.
does he still deserve to have a town named after him??
maybe a footnote on the town sign?
does germany have any streets named after himmler, or goebbels, or goring??
i know i know it’s “not quite the same kind of genocide”.. it’s “less bad” then the holocaust because it was farther in the past and no matter how much you don’t want to admit it, it doesn’t quite matter as much because Canada is where we all live, and we don’t much like thinking about just how many Aboriginals had to die for us to take over this land.
Sometimes the truth hurts grant.
Taking over this land? More like taking over a lease. Tax free calories anyone?
Das Reich has to be the most disgusting thing to ever find this corner of the internets. Makes More look like a soft cuddly cute bunny
thankyou.that means i am doing my job pissing my enemies off.and guess what, i feel the same towards all you left wing beggars.it is the left that will destroy the west, not the right.and it is the right that will still be fighting to protect our way of life, while you lefties bow down to whoever holds your life in their hands.the right is very capable on the battlefield,can the left say the same donk spears.
by the way i thrive off animosity.see you on the battleground.red capper.
oh yeah you may be offended but what false truths have i stated.
present an argument.attack my stated arguments instead of deviating from the argument.because the guilt card is useless to me.
You know, I HAVE always wondered if any schools in Germany are named “hitler high”…
… just a thought from a tired, cranky, nauseous, slightly hungover chick who just spent the last 12 hours traveling with her fucking family, which is pretty much like an exercise in psychological torture.
Carry on.
Dude, you’re not going to get laid with this whole right-wing, left-wing, battlefield bullshit. LOL! Donk is into hip hop so try switching your usual, boring rhetoric around with east-coast/west-coast instead. It’s only a start and I’m certain she’ll turn you down like the status quo but you have to admit that you must really freak women out when you start a conversation with, “Das right weel r00l da west. Are you right or left?”
Here’s a tip, instead of asking if they’re right or left, try asking if they’re down.
I’m actually starting to feel sorry for you, bro, having absolutely no game at all. Of course I leave out your Call of Duty skills.
Can’t we all just fucking GET ALONG?
Please?
avoid the arguments.its easier that way.is the history to much to handle can’t cope.what was the saying run to the hills when things get difficult.good thing myy people did not think that way or there would be no halifax.just a bunch of natives living in teepees and depending on the local rabitt population.and you wonder why you were defeated.you folks would still be living in teepees with bows and arrows.the ancient sumarians where more advanced then any native tribe in north america. and you were proud with your accomplishments in the 1700’s.
go read some books.military history preferably.
just so you know look at yourself ,thats why you were defeated,no interested in being better.
troodon4 – I couldn’t agree with your comments more.
You know what I have a problem with? No, not “rewriting history to pacify some asshole” (I guess anyone who questions the status quo is an asshole) but the fact that a number of these posters here fail to acknowledge the obvious fact that history is written by the winners – not the losers.
Don’t act like doing a little digging and finding out that some guy who founded our city and who we honour actually did some pretty horrific things – and then questioning why we celebrate him – is “rewriting history”. Whose history do you speak of, exactly?
I’m no expert but it’s pretty clear Cornwallis committed some terrible crimes against Acadians and Aboriginals. (And yes, I’m sure atrocities were committed by both sides but we don’t honour Mi’kmaqs at every turn like we do the colonialists)
At the very least, renaming the school enables us to acknowledge that we care about what happened to Canadian citizens all those years ago, and it wasn’t right.
I agree with renaming the school and I say get rid of his statue – or at the very least, place a big monument alongside the statue to commemorate those innocents that he slaughtered.
That’s not “rewriting history” – that’s revealing it.
And comments like Das Reich reek of racism and false superiority: “You may have been brave but you were stupid as hell in the way you fought wars….an ancient greek army would have destroyed the natives.warriors yeah right,i would prefer to say lambs…blah blah blah”
Are you fucking kidding me?! What, do you fashion yourself some great military strategist or something?
Do you even realize that the vast majority of native populations in North & South America were wiped out by illnesses brought by colonialists??
Sorry, it wasn’t simply because the invaders were ‘more advanced’.
Why would I read a military book when I can listen to music and watch TV with Donk? Some of us like women and not Waffens, DR. I’m not avoiding any argument but simply pointing out that asking ladies if they’re left or right isn’t the way to get a date.
Ancient Sumerians also built shit to worship gods and pray. My people decided, “Pfft, what’s the point of that?” My ancestors preferred to fish and play hockey and cuddle with their spouses instead of that dumb shit like building statues.
Just think that if your people thought like mine they wouldn’t be the Earth’s cancer spreading disease and creating environmental pollution. And you would maybe be able to curl up with a beautiful woman at night instead of jerking off to photos of Himmler.
By chance do you have a cock-ring in the shape of a swastika?
For those of you interested, here’s something about the Dartmouth Raid:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Dartm…
Welcome back, Kitty. (waves*) 😀
I love this bitch!
Thanks, avast0! Good to be back! (and good to have reliable internet — I’ve been leeching a weak ass WiFi signal for the last week :P).
In any event, I think this bitch is dumb. Cornwallis was a BASTARD and even IF aboriginals scalped too (not saying they did or didn’t — I didn’t focus on that type of history in my degree), two wrongs certainly don’t make a right. He was no better than Hitler by his thought that a certain race should be exterminated. And we certainly don’t celebrate his founding of the third reich.
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lol, I saw this at one of the subway station and I HAD to take a pic to post as my avatar. FOr a little while, anyway, because it made me LOL considering all the bus stop smoking bitches out there.
^_^
okay then, it will do FOR NOW^^
The french were the ones who were big into scalping first – I say we ban the french. Useless fuckers
historian Paul is a nutter..his version of ‘real’ history is as twisted as his logic…
SHOULD MACKENZIE KING’S FACE BE TAKEN OFF THE $50 BILL?
If Cornwallis Junior High School is to be re-named since Edward Cornwallis authorized bounties on aboriginal scalps, should Mackenzie King’s face be taken off the $50 bill as well since he authorized the removal of Japanese-Canadians from coastal BC and their transport to the interior of the province? At one level, both deeds are dastardly and their perpetrators should be disowned. But at another level, things are not so simple.
Cornwallis (more properly Governor Lawrence) authorized a bounty on aboriginal scalps in retaliation for their French-led (cf. Fr. La Loutre) raids on British settlements in Nova Scotia. Scalping was common among the aboriginals but was done for trophies rather than bounties. But the historical context provides a measure of understanding if not complete justification.
Britain and France were about to engage in a world war (The Seven Year’s War, 1756-1763) for global colonial supremacy, a war which was fought not just in North America but also in India and on the seas. It was to prove decisive for British aspirations. However, in Nova Scotia there was a numerically superior population of Acadians who constituted, in effect, a hostile fifth column, ready to co-operate with their compatriots in France when the occasion arose. The real issue then was not the very marginal one of scalping but rather the legitimacy of the deportation of the Acadians to Louisiana, back to France, and so on. Halifax was a military outpost designed to counter-balance Louisbourg (by the way, did I mention that I led a team of students to Louisbourg to participate in archaeological excavations?). The decision was purely military and not just vindictive but nonetheless it has drawn cries of outrage from current “bien pensants” who see the event as a violation of their rights. So, with this in view, does it make sense to re-name Conrwallis Junior High School?
Flash forward to the Second World War. The Japanese advance in Asia had been inexorable and it seemed that their “Greater East Asia Co-Porsperity Sphere” was well under way. They controlled Korea, the Malay Peninsula, large part of China (Manchukuo) and Australia and New Zealand looked to be next in the south Pacific. After the successful suprise strike on Pearl Harbour, however, a further strike on the Pacific coast of North Anmerica seemed imminent. Vancouver had a large ethnic Japanese population and there was documented proof (in the Japanese-Canadian press) that there was considerable support for Japan’s war effort. (By the way, the Japanese consider anyone born in Japan or of Japanese parents ALWAYS to be a Japanese, regardless of country of domicile. Conversely, don’t try to apply for Japanese citizenship if you don’t meet those conditions which, I suspect, you don’t.)
Anyway, what was Mackenzie King to do? What he did was to repeat the scenario of the explusion of the Acadians in 1755. He dispossessed the Japanese-Canadians of their homes and property and had them transported to the interior of BC where they would not be any threat. As with the Acadian Deportation, many “bien pensants” from the current point of view were outraged at this violation of their rights. However, things looked different then. They didn’t have the advantage of 20/20 hindsight.
But, I suppose, what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. If they are going to re-name Cornwallis Junior High, perhaps it’s time they also took Mackenzie King’s face of the $50 bill.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
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Don’t even pretend your argument was as enlightened …
You guys DO realize that history is all about interpretations and not so much about fact, right?
It’s all a guessing game and the outcome usually depends on the politics and view point of whomever is INTERPRETING primary documents, right?
Can’t talk. Still dead.
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*your*
LOL – 3 words that can instantly reduce SOBova to tears – Truly, Madly, Deeply
2 more – Greyfriars Bobby. >: (
Rumors of my demise may have been slightly exaggerated.
“Truly, Madly, Deeply” … she listens to Savage Garden?
>: ) It’s amovie with Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson. Sort of a British “Ghost” for grownups. Origin of my phrase “Big Snotty Cry”
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Lawl, that’s what I thought of Donk
The first time she watched it she damned near sobbed herself into a migraine. Which wouldn’t be so bad were it not for the fact that migraines make her vomit and when she vomits, she faints. So guess who has to hold her head. (I’m not feeling sorry for myself; we even wrote that part into our wedding vows)
that’s why she’s my bff http://i.fanpix.net/images/orig/7/n/7n8yyu…
tho i do prefer him with a beard http://www.flicksandbits.com/wp-content/up…
Perhaps we could send someone dressed at Cornwallis to the pow wow on the common this weekend – I volunteer Sebastian?
Ivan, you’ll love this – The Religion of Peace have gone even more whacko after a Christain Egyptian business tycoon and politician sent a tweet of Mickey Mouse with a beard and Minnie in a niqab – he’s already received the standard death threats.
“Being Outraged” must have replaced “Almsgiving” as one of the 5 Pillars. Unless alms is another word for “7.62mm rounds from a Kalashnikov”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-139…
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RSVPs
: Donk (June 29, 10:48AM) – “Don’t even pretend that your argument was enlightened…”
Donk, I will not pretend that my argument was enlightened if you will tell me HOW it wasn’t. Don’t confuse an INTRODUCTION with a CONCLUSION. DEMONSTRATE your assertion, Donk.
: Fear & Regret Kitty (11;15AM) – “You guys DO realize that history is all about interpretation and not so much about fact, right?” Wrong. Don’t confuse history with literature. Things DID happen and attempting to answer WHY they did does involve interpretation, but there is a rational limit to any such interpretation.
Visitors from outer space, anyone?
“It’s all a guessing game and the outcome for us all depend on the politics and the viewpoint of whomever is INTERPRETING primary sources, right?” Wrong. History is no more a “guessing game” than science or any other discipline. There is something called historical truth which is the outcome of compelling reasons given to explain any historical event. Your view leads downward into the empty vortex of utter relativism which is untenable. You did see your own “performative contradiction,” didn’t you? If everything is a “guessing game,” how is it that knew this? Clearly, where you are concerned, it is not a “guessing game” at all since, of course, you have privileged and direct access to the TRUTH.
: Fr. Ivan (10:30AM ff) – Fr. Ivan has taken the opportunity to engage in his usual masturbatory fantasies, assisted by Paingirl, and I won’t disturb him.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
That comment wasn’t directed at you MM. Probably why it didn’t make sense to you.
Troondon 4, I see this as the same thing.
Historic fact is both sides (european, and north american peoples) were at times barbaric & ruthless.
The French paid the local natives to bing them English scalps, British did the same thing.
Should any prominant French preson then have his likenesses removed in Quebec ? or anywhere else in Canada ?
Should statue, commemeratives etc of any Native be stricken or removed if at some other time he/she committed acts which at that time were judged differently than today ?
There is much more about Cornwallis, than he put a bounty on local native peoples .
This is about the person.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Cornwa…
This is the time…& it isn’t pretty, all the above mentioned party’s … IMO thought killing each other was a great sport, it certainly was popular.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_No…
I am not trying to be judgemental of any side. I don’t see this issue, from a barbaric time period in our history, as being more important than the fact . Mr Cornwallis is the founder of Halifax. As you read the second link, take note of the names that pop up.
Do we have to change all of them ?
There is a distinct difference between understanding the importance of somebody’s role in history and “honouring” them.
An example to me would be Ghengis Kahn. The efficient brutality with which Kahn expanded the Mongol empire from China to Europe is well known, massacring entire villages and contributing to the deaths of millions. The importance of the man in history is immense but I find him repugnant and would not want anything in my neighborhood named after him.
Social mores are constantly evolving. Included in this is more of a sensitivity towards those disadvantaged by the ruling powers including women and minorities.
The heroes of yesteryear, particularly the further back you go, are glorified because of accomplishments in war. Society has become sophisticated enough now to understand that war should not be glorified even by our side. This newfound view is bound to have an impact on how the old war heroes are seen.
So those men who, over the centuries, used their military expertise (including brutality) to forge settlements at the expense of others and were honoured by having their name put on them are going to be under scrutiny now. That’s not a bad thing.
To the victors go the spoils? Maybe but they made sure that they were the ones that will be remembered. Maybe a tactical error.
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RSVPs
: Donk (June 29, 4:48PM) – Donk, you must try and address your comments to the person intended. Do you see your name as well as the date and time of your posting at the beginning of this post? Nod your head slowly, Donk. Is there any ambiguity, Donk? Shake your head slowly, Donk. Try to retain these simple instructions.
: Paingirl (8:04PM) – A similar problem to Donk. Who is the “critter guy?” Since I have my beloved “Wynnie” (a “critter”???) as my avatar could that be me? Yes, with an effort I “can make an X” but don’t live in the area. However, if I do manage to move and am elected, I think that Lawrencetown should be immediately re-named as well. That was the cove who authorized the explusion of the Acadians in 1755.
Quelle injustice!
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
This message is for MM everyone! For MM, got that! ARE YOU GUYS SURE YOU KNOW WHo IT’S FOR? IT”S NOT FOR YOU IT’S FOR MONSIEU DE MONTREAL! Avert your eyes, not for you, oh no! It’s a love letter FOR MM!
Dear MM,
MM look at who posted above me. Good God. Leave me alone. Everything doesn’t have to be footnoted etc. I didn’t say Ivan’s name specifically in the comment I posted for … dun dun dun … dramatic effect (as stupid as that sounds).
Love,
Donk.
troodon4 is the critter guy monsieur, i can refer to you that way if you prefer http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/si…
RSVPs (Cont’d.)
:Donk (June 30, 11:09AM) – Ah, since you we referring to Father Ivan’s post (June 29, 12:02PM) I can see where I went wrong. Many posts had intervened between his post and your subsequent one which commented on it but yours immediately followed mine. As we say in Latin – I always use Latin on these occasions – I was following the principle of “Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc” (After Which, Therefore Because Of Which” or, more colloquially, something which immediately precedes something else is understood to be the cause of that something which follows it), I assumed there was a cause-effect relationship between the two contiguous posts, i.e., yours and then mine. I trust that is clear. Still, it would be a good idea to absorb my previous instructions so as to AVOID WASTING VALUABLE BAND WIDTH!
: Paingirl (11:22 AM) – Similar confusion, similar results. Learning that Troondonk4 was “the critter guy” was certainly a relief but after scouring his most recent post for references to “critters” I was still baffled until I saw his avatar which, I suppose, could be called a “critter.” No, I politely decline the offer of being called “critter guy” but thanks all the same. However, do try and avoid abstruse references in future so as to AVOID WASTING VALUABLE BAND WIDTH!
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
okay^^❤
I like how the Mi’kmaq play all innocent-like… they took this territory by force themselves. Would have been outright genocide had the previous occupants nowhere to run. Archers against hatchets, it was a slaughter.
Same for the Inuit. They came over not so long ago, and are guilty of one of the bloodiest and most ruthless genocide stories known.
We are all humans. We are all guilty. We are all innocent.