You may want to pretend it didn’t happen but it did. We all heard that enormous fart you let loose in the library. The sound just echoed off the walls. I could see you looking to see if anyone noticed. I feel sorry for those standing closer to the blast, I was far enough away to not smell the noxious fumes. —Hold It In Next Time
This article appears in Apr 21-27, 2011.


ha ha ha – nothing like a good fart bitch. Hold it in, or quickly make your way to the can where the walls can hold in the echoing reverberations.
This may sound gross, but there’s no worse feeling than a fart deflating up your ass.
I’d rather fart and get it overwith.
Then again, my farts don’t smell. True story. 😉
Sure my farts dont smell either if they do its roses
No mine don’t. Really. I have excess air in my intestines and a lack of methane gasses. TMI, maybe, but it’s true. Dr said so.
“If it meant defeating the “Urban Baboons” I’d forge an alliance with the devil himself” – W. Churchill
http://www.rafbombercommand.com/pics/archi…
Disclaimer: possibly misquoted
dude should be taken and beaten to an inch of his life? 🙂
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_SVugPWIpLtw/SwRC…
OP, were they fat? Likely they’ve been holding in that fart for hours, just waiting for the right time to fumigate the place.
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Best bitch ever 🙂 I hope this one goes in the print edition!
must have missed the sign
http://s2.hubimg.com/u/3660377_f248.jpg
haha sorry pk, just standard reply to that.
Nothing illegal about calling sebastian a butt-sniffer lmao.
it was fucking glorious, wasn’t it. goddamn that chili is a bitch, and you should have caught the after aroma, ahhhhhh. but you all moved away and missed it, oh well, maybe next time, i sneak a good old low flying wheezer out.
===a good old low flying wheezer===
From a good old low flying geezer!
Hey Sucks, can you please send MM’s dog photos through PK please?
When you farted, did magazine pages fly around and books fall off the shelves?
no, but i believe a few trees died in town. this asshole is getting to be well, a real asshole. wish the hell i knew where it lived at. but if it keeps up, the coast will have to call in the cops, and give them his i.p., and then the laugh will be on us. i can see it in court now, charged with being a douchebagmasshole of an idiot. fuck man, they’ll have to make a special cell for that one. and yes wheelie, i’ll send the pics to kitty.
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA … where’s Hugo?
the pics are on their merry way, they are real beautiful animals. and the pics are between 5 and 7 mb each. i see our asshole is gone again, good riddance.
i would like to see too http://www.dailypets.co.uk/wp-content/uplo…
painy, send me a mail, and i will try to get them to you too.
fuck guys, i feel slighted here, not being mentioned as a perverce satan worshipper.
Fuck off 5. Please fuck off.
my fuck the effort this fool makes, sad, real fucking sad.
AT LEAST IT WASN’T A “SHART”…that’s when you *think* you need to just fart, but a little shit comes oozing out with said fart/instead of said fart. a shit-fart! SHART! whoop whoop. although by the sounds of this bitch, it was pretty deadly, so it very well could’ve been. narly.
^ thats not annoying………………………………………………………………….SYKE. it really fucking is.
http://pictures.labho.com/wp-content/uploa…
Hey Truth…. now that you made your point, (seriously bro- your point has been more than made….) why don’t you cut the crap and simply stick around and use insults as your weapon of choice. Could be fun!
very nice speculation… though you realize that we’re going to post here regardless.
you’re welcome to waste another day typing away.. I just hope you’re doing it at work…
cause pulling all this shit on your own time….
reeks of desperation and shameless attention grabbing.
i haven’t laughed this good in a long time. keep the inane postings coming fool. your ip. is fagged, and just a matter of time, before the boys in blue come knocing, and they wil take you back to that nice safe nuthouse you should have stayed in.only a real fucking loser in life, spends this much time and energy on this silly fucking shit. and kitty and ngf, will never be banned. so on your part, you are just wasting your time.
FARTING & BISHOP BERKELEY
The well-known 18th. century English idealist philosopher Bishop Berkeley once famously asked whether a tree falling in the forrest would make a sound if there were no one there to hear it. The basis of his claim was his “idealism,” the philosophical view that what we believe to be an independent reality is in fact simply a mental construct. Berkeley would have answered the question in the negative, i.e., there would be no sound is there were no one around to hear it.
The 18th. century lexicographer Samuel Johnson would have none of it, claiming that if he kicked Berkeley in the shins that would be proof enough of the existence of an independent reality. But, of course, Berkeley could simply reply that the pain he was feeling was itself simply aother mental construct.
The question, “mutatis mutandis” (as we say in Latin), applies to farting. If there were no one around to smell it, could the fart be said to stink? (Excluding Pretty Kitty’s farts, of course.) The falling tree caused perturbations in the air but, to make a sound, those perturbations must fall on ear drums. No ear drums, no sound. Similarly, the fart causes perturbations in the air but, to cause a stink, those perturbations must fall on a nose. No nose, no stink. I think we have to come down on the Bishop’s side on this one.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
gee truth, you still here, thought your diaper would be full by now. or do you even wear one, while in your cave? you’re too fucking funny, you know that, even montrealman, would have pity on your poor, sick, neurotic ass. got some kind words for this dude m.m.?
what a fucking maroon.
LS, you can’t steal “maroon” from me, I sole it from Bugs Bunny.
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.as…
Montrealman…. unfortunately you have revealed some valuable insight and attempted to provide evidence to support your claim.
To explain this we simply need to define the very essence of a fart. A fart, or more biologically correct, ‘flatulence’, occurs when a mixture of gasses is expelled from the rectum. (as a side note, this actually renders the term ‘brain fart’ to be an inaccurate metaphor, but that’s for a different time…) These gasses generally include nitrogen, carbon dioxide and at times, hydrogen, oxygen and of course methane.
The question raised by MM was, if there is no one around to smell a fart does it really stink? It is true, MM, that in order for such a malodor to be “stinky”, there is the necessity that a being (either human or animal) needs to be present in order to perceive this malodor via sense of olfaction. (more commonly known as smell) What you failed to consider though, Montrealman, that is without a being to perceive the odor there is neither a being to expel the gasses causing such an odor. Therefore, if there is no one around to smell the stink of a fart there can be no fart to smell in the first place.
unless you’re a twisted fuck who farts into a balloon and shoots it from a football field away…
http://www.bmumford.com/photo/highspeed/ba…
mmmmm, smells like twice-processed big-mac.
great, a new package warning for balloons http://humour.200ok.com.au/img/caution.jpg
FARTING & BISHOP BERKELEY (II)
“Therefore, if there is no one around to smell the stink of a fart, there can be no fart to smell in the first place.” (Horatio, 3:20PM)
Horatio is to be congratulated on successfully grasping the inadequacy of the analogy between the sound of the falling tree and the stink of the fart, i.e., that while the former does not require the presence of a listener, the latter logically does require the presence of a smeller – at the very least that of the farter herself. (We must exclude Pretty Kitty here who has reported that her farts do not stink.) A little philosophical test there by Montrealman which Horatio passed with flying colours. But the question remains: Has Horatio successfully demolished Berkeley’s Idealism?
The claim that, at a minimum, the farter herself must be preesent to smell the fart and so claim that it stinks does no violence to Berkeley’s Idealism (capital “I” please), the view that we can have no contact with the “thing-in-itself” (or the “Ding-an-Sich” as we say in German) but only with our representations, our “ideas” of it. Indeed, Berkeley would applaud Horatio’s demand that the fart requires a smeller to determine that it stinks in just the same way that he maintains that the falling tree requires a listener to determine that it makes a sound. But, in agreeing with Berkeley, does that mean that Horatio is also an Idealist?
For Montrealman, Berkeley’s Idealism can be refuted only by pointing out the “performative contradiction” in his assertion. In other words, how did Berkeley know that we can never know the thing-in-itself? The claim boils down to the assertion that (1) here, on one side, is the knower and (2) here, on the other, is the thing known but, sadly, that (1) can never make contact with or gain knowledge of (2). But in order to know this Berleley, self-contradictingly, must have transcended both (1) and (2) in order to make the negative determination. In other words, Berkeley must have achieved precisely that which the principles of his Idealism forbade, that is, he knew that he could never know (2) the thing-in-itself. In philosophy the performative contradiction – excusing oneself from one’s own injunctions, is lethal to any position.
Now, perhaps Horatio would like to tackle Montrealman’s critique of Berkeley based on the performative contradiction.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
How much do you want to bet the poor farter in question had been crouching down looking for books, made some small movement and BLAM out it came? Because this is embarrassingly happening more and more to me the older I get.
“The Pleasure arising to a few philosophers, from seeing, a few times in their life, the threads of light untwisted, and separated by the Newtonian Prism into seven colours, can it be compared with the ease and comfort every man living might feel seven times a day, by discharging freely the Wind from his Bowels? Especially if it be converted into a Perfume: For the Pleasures of one Sense being little inferior to those of another, instead of pleasing the sight he might delight the smell of those about him, & make numbers happy, which to a benevolent mind must afford infinite satisfaction.”
~ Benjamin Franklin
http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library…
hey tralala welcome back to the fold. farts must be smelt by the one who dealt
” I just hope you’re doing it at work…
cause pulling all this shit on your own time….
reeks of desperation and shameless attention grabbing.”
I’d just like to say, that you’re right.
Before I started working I didn’t post more than a handful of times during the week, and now, sitting at a computer ALL FUCKING DAY, I can’t help but quell the horrors of routine with some LTWWB-ness.
I’m pretty sure I didn’t even bother with the internetz at all for those two months last year where I was in a land far far away.
I’m sad because it’s coming up on my one year anniversary and I want to cry because I”m here and not there 🙁
Also: NGF wants to know why donairs smell the same coming out as they do going in.
thanks paingirl! good to be back, I’ve been lurking a bit but generally just to entertain myself with other peoples’ gripes in order to relieve some exam-time pressure.
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Better out than in….that’s what Shrek Always says ~;)
http://www.smellypoop.com/facts_on_farts.p…
^^ http://scienceray.com/biology/10-things-yo…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe…
ZOMG!!! Science!!!
is it weird that i like the periodic table?
Yes.
Sexy and weird.
How they hanging, Painey?(ass grapes)
full o mashed tasters and squash^^ http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oLCtkQVQO-M/SxCd…
Hey, guys, we should pit Annie against our latest and most persistant troll. Bahawhawhawhaw – Annie would make Montreal smoked meat outta the stupid little fuck. That’s one brain challenge I’d like to see.
Ol Trollie has brought us together…
See you guys in jail!
..i’ll bake youse a cake with a file…:)
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/c…
ONE BRAIN CHALLENGE
“Annie would make Montreal smoked meat outta the stupid little fuck. This is one brain challenge I’d like to see.” (TTFN, April 24, 10:04PM)
“Now, perhaps Horatio would like to tackle Montrealman’s critique of Berkeley based on the performative contradiction.” (Montrealman, April 22, 4:25PM)
Montrealman is still waiting, Horatio. Would you like pickles with that?
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Hey MM-
The puppy photos made me Squeee! and scree! I even showed Ma Wheelie. She thinks they’re very beautiful too.
I think I owned that same rug when I lived in Upper Canada.
wp
Hmmm… is Horatio an Idealist? Well, this presents somewhat of a internal struggle for me as I had not ever thought about this. In some ways I was certain I was a realist. After all, does reality not still exist if one is incapable of observing it? This conclusion is surely supported by monitoring the presence of certain individuals within these forums. Of course, I kid somewhat….. it would be virtually impossible for any of the twits on here to lack any concept of reality whatsoever…. As a follower and somewhat of an academic in the physical sciences I have no choice but to take a realist stance. To me, matter is matter… matter is what defines reality. To say that these things exist only because I am able to perceive them with my mind goes against what I believe. As far as I am concerned, they are because they are….
Now to step up to the challenge you have presented in asking me to tackle your critique on Berkeley… you obviously read a little too much into my conclusion on whether or not a fart would smell if no one was around to smell it. The main point of my retort was to draw attention to the fact that your initial question was rendered irrelevant by the mere fact that in order for there to be a “smeller”, there needed to indeed be a “farter”. This argument was actually independent and unrelated to Berkeley’s question pertaining to the sound of a tree falling. The action of a tree falling is possible without any presence of a living being. (let’s forsake the essence of trees in this instance…) Therefore, a tree is able to fall independent of the necessity for a being that’s able to hear. Webster defines a sound as a mechanical radiant energy that is transmitted by the longitudinal pressure waves in a material medium (like air or water) and is the OBJECTIVE CAUSE OF HEARING. That said, would this energy in the form of vibrations still not exist were there no ears around to perceive them? I, given the statements I gave in previous paragraphs, would have to say yes. Therefore I am against Berkeley’s Idealist stance that a falling tree does not make a sound.
Therefore, I support your critique on Berkeley… and actually applaud you for your own conclusions.
Are we REALLY having an “intellectual” debate on farting?
Really?
This screams of desperation, guys.
Wow PK…. who knew you could be so ANAL about a couple of people discussing what appears to be an explosive topic for you….. BAHAHA. Sorry- couldn’t resist. You set it up so well.
Stay tuned though- following our discourse on the epistemological properties of farting we will surely migrate our discussion to explore the physiological possibility (or impossibility) that one is incapable of expelling farts without odor.
HOLD THE PICKLES!
Horatio writes, “I support your critique of Berkeley… and actually applaud you for your own conclusions.” Montrealman thanks Horatio for his kind thoughts but, unfortunately, his applause is misdirected. This is so for two reasons: (1) Horatio’s “realist stance” leads him into his own performative contradiction and, (2) his physicalist critique of Berkeley’s idealist epistemology misses the point.
(1) The first thing to do is to determine where Horatio is “coming from,” a question he dispells in his first paragraph. He writes, “As a follower and somewhat of an academic in the physical sciences I have no choice but to take a realist stance. To me, matter is matter … matter is what defines reality.” Aha! Horatio is coming from the physical sciences and, predictably, it shows in its inefficacy in engaging philosophical questions. For if “matter is what defines reality” as Horatio maintains, then how does he account for his own statement, assuming he takes his statement to be an aspect of reality? For Horatio’s statement is not itself material. It is a thought, it is conceptual. To escape the dilemma Horatio must show how his material reality has given rise to his conceptual claim or Horatio must, like Berkeley before him, descend into the philosophical morass of a performative contradiction. In other words Horatio, in formulating his assertion has excused himself from his own materialist principles.
(2) Horatio gives the standard physicalist response to Berkeley’s falling tree, i.e., that even if no one were present to hear it there would still be sound waves emited by the crash. But Berkeley would never have disputed this. What he WOULD dispute is that the sound so made would constitute a representation (“an idea”) in the mind of the listener and so constitute an item of knowledge. Since there was no listener there was no idea and therefore no knowledge. Berkeley’s point was epistemological, not one drawn from brute physical science which, of necessity, is mute in matters philosophical. So, in effect, Horatio has not only missed Berkeley’s point but also missed Montrealman’s which was, to repeat, that the only possible response to Berkelian Idealism was to point out his performative contradiction, one which is philosophically lethal.
A final point: Horatio, not unnaturally in view of his background in the physical sciences, appears to be what might be called a radical empiricist, i.e., one who views the mind simply as the passive recorder of data from the environment. To determine his take on this one would have to investigate further just what he has in mind by his “realist stance.” (Even in the physical sciences Heisenberg’s “Indeterminacy Principle” maintains that the act of observation itself alters the nature of the data observed.) But that must wait upon Horatio’s response to Montrealman’s observations.
In any dase, Montrealman thanks Horatio for his considered reply and will hold the pickles on his smoked meat.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
“Wow PK…. who knew you could be so ANAL about a couple of people discussing what appears to be an explosive topic for you…”
Intellectualizing farting is just sad and a new low for ltwwb (which is sayin’ somethin’). Congrats on being one of the two perps on, perhaps, the saddest debate LTWWB’s ever seen! 😀
You two should go buy yourselves a cookie and feed it to each other! hahahaha
“Intellectualizing farting is just sad”…..
PK, I am afraid you have long since missed the bus on this one. Try and rationalize your statement to the various medical researchers, physicians, pharmacists, dieticians and environmentalists who have devoted all or part of their scholastic and professional careers to this very phenomenon. That we have now introduced a philosophical flavor to the topic simply manifests the importance of understanding gaseous anal expulsions as they pertain to our world today.
Ok, I’ll rephrase my comment:
A PHILOSOPHICAL debate on farting is just sad.
Even for you, ‘horatio’ 😀
Someone say “Lemon Party”? heh heh heh >: 0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaANR1M0ETw…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_S5cXbXe-4…
HAHA completely unrelated but made me LOL.
On a sad note (speaking of kitties), molly’s lost the .4lbs she’s gained. She’s eating the high cal food and is ravenously stuffing her face with it. *sigh* I tested her blood sugar and it was normal. She was surprisingly good about it, though.
*sigh*
Haha Montrealman…. you surely hold the upper hand as was given to you by your superior philosophical background. While I like to think of myself as above average when it comes to rational and analytical thinking it DOES appear as though I am much better off simply treading in such waters. I would be considered insane for believing I could compete with a power swimmer were we to enlist in such a metaphorical meet.
That said, I suppose all I can do is review the statements you’ve made concerning the philosophical fallacies in my own retort and take a seat back in the stands. I will, however, counter your notion that I might be a radical empiricist. I am just as much a believer in theoretical physics as I am a believer in applied physics. While the mind does play a role, naturally, as a recorder of data from the environment, it also uses this date to travel outside the realm of “reality”, and as a result outside the notion of “things in themselves”…. Perhaps I should recant and, in turn, reorganize a statement I previously made by saying “matter is the base for what defines reality”. Much like saying knowledge is the base for what defines reason. For obviously merely possessing knowledge is by NO means proof that one also possesses reason.
So, if I were to exclude the element drawn from “brute physical science” from my side of the discussion I am afraid I would not be left with much. While likely to bring about disappointment for you MM, I have no choice but to concede the philosophical upper hand to you and put an end to my own part of this discussion. Chances are your conclusions are “right” and I would be able to come up with no insight any better than yours……
’til we meet again………
PK, you’ve just taken the first step in realizing the true value of a philosophy degree.
lol Ivan.
NOTES FROM THE PHILOSOPHICAL POWER SWIMMER
Once again Horatio (April 25, 1:45PM) is to be thanked for his thoughtful reply to my last post (“Hold The Pickles!”). However, three difficulties – what the philosopher Gilbert Ryle called “intellectual cramps” – can be seen to arise in connection with your response to my observations:
(1) You write, “I will, however, counter your notion that I might be a radical empiricist. I am just as much a believer in theoretical physics as I am a believer in applied physics.” The difficulty here is that this does not counter the attribution of radical empiricism but simply passes it by. In other words, theoretical physics provides the conceptual framework in terms of which applied physics operates. But radical empiricism itself operates at the conceptual rather than the applied level. Further, it does not just “operate” at the theoretical level but defines the concepts in terms of which theoretical physics itself proceeds. So your first response misses the point of my observation.
(2) In addition to the mind recording the data from the environment (a very empiricist observation) you write, interestingly, that it “also uses this data to travel outside the realm of ‘reality’ and as a result outside the notion of things in themselves.” I must say, Horatio, that I suffered severe intellectual cramps on reading this, principally since I didn’t know what it meant. What, exactly, is there “outside” the realm of reality? What is there “outside” the notion of things in themselves? Are you suggesting some sort of transcendental function of the mind? I need your help with this one, Horatio.
(3) In a similar fashion, I suffered further intellectual cramps on reading your revised account of matter, that is, that “matter is the basis for what defines reality (which is) much like saying knowledge is the basis of what defines reason. For obviously merely possessing knowledge is by NO means proof that one also posseses reason.”
Once again, Horatio, I’m having difficulty here. First, it’s not clear just how your revised definition of matter is subtantially different from your first, i.e. “matter is what defines reality.” In both cases reality is reduced to its material manifestations which, of course, is just what radical empiricism maintains but in respect to which you reject any allegiance. Once again, Horatio, I need your help here in order to dissolve those intellectual cramps.
Second, it seems to me that you have the reason-knowledge relationship reversed. Rather than knowledge being the basis of what defines reason it would seem more plausible that reason is that by means of which knowledge is acquired. But then, to cloud matters further, you advance a disjunctive relationship between the two when you say that possessing knowledge is by no means proof that one also posseses reason. I suppose the obvious question would be, “Well, then, what DOES demonstrate prooof that one posseses reason?”
Well Horatio, once again thanks for participating in our discussion. One usually gets something like the note from my stalker, “The Parasite” (aka Hugo Phurst) who, of course, lacks both the knowledge or ability to engage in discussions like ours.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
P.S. Do not worry. PK will never be able to take that first step in realizing the true value of philosophy since both concepts (philosophy and value) are beyond her.
i have no mind so i’ll keep posting sighthound photos http://www.artemiswhippets.com/images/Brag…
Love the quiet dignity of your avitar subject, MM – brings to mind Prince Albert’s favourite, Eos:
http://madameguillotine.files.wordpress.co…
“a greyhound should be headed like a snake and necked like a drake, backed like a beam, sided like a bream, footed like a cat and tailed like a rat”
http://www.georgereisch.com/popularculture…
http://www.cartoonstock.com/directory/r/re…
Haha Hugo…. I like the second link. Although I think it would much more accurate were it to read, “I have a Facebook page, therefore I am.”… LOL
Well Montrealman, you seem to have caught me at a time when I am having intellectual cramps of my own. Perhaps to refine my metaphor to a more accurate comparison- intellectual diarrhea. 🙂 I may need some time to make sense of my own ramblings, if possible, and prepare either a counter discussion or simply concede to the error of my ways. In the meantime, perhaps you can comment on some other bitch to allow me a fresh slate of sorts……
Otherwise, I am more than open to the idea of debates in an email-type setting. I am always welcome to Socratic discussions that both test my mind and present the opportunity to learn new ideas and insights. Just search my previous comments for an email address if you dare…..
http://money.cnn.com/2000/10/13/career/q_d…
A GRACIOUS OPPONENT
Horatio’s assertion that he might “simply concede the error of my ways” yet is “always welcome to Socratic discussions that both test my mind and present the opportunity to learn new ideas and insights” bespeaks a gracious opponent, a sort one rarely finds on this site. He is to be congratulated for his intellectual integrity.
Ordinarily, one expects something like the comment from my intellectually impoverished stalker, “The Parasite” (aka Hugo Phurst) – i.e., a cartoon depicting a series of absurd comments on Descartes’ “Cogito, ergo sum.” In today’s postmodernist philosophical climate Descartes is considered the father of an unsupportable mind-body dualism but, unlike his critics, he advanced an ontology of man which grounded a conception human identity, i.e., his rationality, his distinctive ability to think. His postmodern opponents, by contrast, reject the efficacy of their own rationality and have, as a consequence, spiralled downward into an incoherent monism, one in which, self-contradictingly, even the concept of truth itself is to be set aside. I think the importance of Descartes thought might, um, have been missed in The Parasite’s cartoons.
Thank you for your invitation to continue our debates by email. Yes, I would “dare” to find your address in previous posts but I prefer them to remain in the public forum. However, there is always the possibility that we may meet again, on another thread.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
are you guys gonna kiss?…
Who knows… perhaps if he sends me a pic… 😛
“Berkeley would have answered the question in the negative, i.e., there would be no sound is there were no one around to hear it.” and he was basically correct, if his qualifing statement stated “nothig”, instead of “no one” it would be completely corret.
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There was a young man who said, “God,
Must think it exceedingly odd,
When he finds that this tree,
Continues to be,
When there’s no one about in the Quad.”
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“Dear Sir: your astonishment’s odd,
I am always about in the Quad,
And that’s why this tree,
Continues to be,
Since observed by, yours faithfully, God.”
George Berkeley.
lol Horatio.
Hot philosopher-on-philosopher action!
I knew kerflunk was right: gay boy jonno. HA.
Also: MM — just because I don’t wish to engage in a philosophical debate with you on pointless issues, does not mean I’m a complete idiot. Usually i don’t give two shits what others think of me, but in this case I resent your implications.
Typical academic snob who knows nothing outside of what’s been taught in books.
A phlosophial question – Why does the Universe/Multiverse exist?
Points will be awarded for originality.
Aw hell naw Hugo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQycQ8DABvc
The multiverse exists to hold the collective stupidity of youtube comments. My theory is that without the multiverse the collective thoughts of idiots converging on one meme could drastically alter probability and change the odds of something extraordinary happening.
change your name, change your avatar. it’s in the handbook…number three, subsection -variables
UNDERCLASS MAN OF THE YEAR: PRELIMINARY CRITERIA FOR SELECTION
The backwash to the philosophical debate between Horatio and me turned up a number of inane comments which might provide the preliminary criteria for the selection of the “Underclass Man of the Year,” the one who manifests the intellectual and social deficiencies of the Halifax Underclass in general. One must remember (if one ever knew) that all discourse is self-referential, i.e., that what one says does not so much reflect on the object of their criticism but rather on the minds of the commenters themselves. That said, six such criteria have emerged. They are:
1. Money Worship: zZz (9:27AM) provides a chart showing ten occupations that employ persons with a Bachelor’s degree in Philosophy. As expected, these occupations have little remuneration, a fact which earns them, and the BA in Philosophy himself, zZz’s unreserved contempt. That is because zZz knows the price of everything but the value of nothing.
2. Winking Reference to Homosexuality: Wheeliep (10:15AM) finds homosexuality immensely amusing but, given the power of political correctness, refrains from outright homophobic catcalls.
3. Anti-Intellectualism: Perhaps the defining feature of Underclassman’s mind. Pretty Kitty (12:30PM) disdains engaging on “pointless issues,” that is on philosophical questions which mean the same thing. But what issues do have point for Pretty Kitty? See #1 above.
4. Intellectual Resentment: Pretty Kitty angrily asserts: “I resent your implications.” While I didn’t think I “implied” anything – I stated outright that philosophy was “beyond her” – her resentment must be traceable to her sense
of intellectual inferiority which, of course, ties in with all the other ingredients of the Underclass mind.
5. Class Resentment: For Pretty Kitty Montrealman is “typical academic snob who knows nothing outside of what’s taught in books.” This, of course, is the social side of the coin. It introduces the class element of snobbery. But how does Pretty Kitty know that I know nothing outside of what’s “been taught in books?” (Anti-Intellectualism) Do I expect Pretty Kitty to support her claim? Of course not.
6. Conceptual Confusion: Anglo (3:52PM) writes, in response to The Parasite’s vacuous question, that “without the multiverse the collective thought of idiots converging on one meme could drastically alter the possibilities and change the odds of something extraordinary happening.” Would Anglo explain his assertion? References to Richard Dawkins are, of course, very acceptable.
Well, there it is. It looks like it’s going to be a tight race. It’s going to be exciting.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
oh you just reminded monsieur, merci commander for the books. sending them out soon http://people.unt.edu/~tlt0002/deer1925sm.…
Just for you, Painey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9hG_3dGry8
Anytime Painey. Woof Woof
http://www.ipawz.com/photos/uncategorized/…
thanks i’ve never really watched that show http://media.petster.com/photos/20418/447-…
Awww – well, here’s something then:
http://www.mccullagh.org/db9/1ds2-4/italia…
====2. Winking Reference to Homosexuality: Wheeliep (10:15AM) finds homosexuality immensely amusing but, given the power of political correctness, refrains from outright homophobic catcalls.====
I have a large group of gay friends that I absolutely adore. I hope you didn’t mistake my “locker room talk/rough housing” for something as shitty as homophobia.
I could call you guys “fags”/whatever, but that’s mean-spirited. I was joking with you as I would my friends.
My comment related to the difference in tone to your and Horatio’s conversations and the mutual respect shown. It seemed to be building to some (I don’t wanna use the word “climax”, but…) peak. I thought my statement was in a playful tone. Hopefully you didn’t read it as anything but.
I enjoy you, MM, but my specialties are music and photography, and I guess, disability issues: I couldn’t engage in a philosophical conversation and use the proper jargon/attributions necessary to compete or complete the conversation.
Snap
snap
snap!
Teach us More, Montreal Man. Not ‘more’ of what you know, but teach us about ‘More’ – the music tech guy on the board here. Thanks!
NGF, ya fag.
See? *There’s* offensive!
wheelie, ya sebastian.
Now *THAT* is truly offensive.
Typical annie bullshit.
I had to laugh, commenting on Anglo’s reply to my question, without adressing the question, fucking weak there montrealmoleman, you haven’t a clue.
Also, SMEGHEAD, it’s not up to you to critique the answers to my question, so STFU.
basically this.
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/
Except the general masses of stupidity which we are aware is widespread all converging on one thought of self destructive lolcat causing a one in a billion chance of something happening. Fortunately the multiverse earths might be saved by millions of idiots suddenly gaining cheeseburgers.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/5225631…
^^^^ *BOOOM* ^^^
lolz – Anglo, now I have a vision of the multiverses, slipping in amongst the dimensional branes, “hiding from the stupid people” 🙂
Here is something that happened to me on Saturday. Nothing earth-shattering but curious for how 3 individuals came together at one postion in time and space.
Walking down SGR I passed by a fellow wearing a U.S.S. John F. Kennedy ballcap. Nowt unusual about that for Halifax – I’ve been rawking a Theodore Roosevelt cap the last couple of months.
But, approximately 20 feet behind him, utterly unconnected with him was a guy wearing a “Dead Kennedys” hoodie.
So, is this an example of synchonicity or chaos theory or do I just need to get a hobby that doesn’t involve sniffing Testors Model glue?
I’d say the latter, Ivan.
Also: you’re SUCH a bad ass lately 😉 Now that I have a picture in my head of you, I frigging love bad ass Ivan! LOL
Whaddya mean “BadAss”?
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestor…
For what it’s worth, I ♥asscone♥ it when adorable little rosy-cheeked, Russian doll Kitteh talks raw. (Giggity)
REDUCED COGNITIVE ATTAINMENT
Reviewing the on-going criteria constitutive of the Underclass Man of the Year, I felt them to be too diverse, ranging from zZz’s “Money Worship” to Pretty Kitty’s “Class Resentment” (who, by the way, currently leads the pack).
Applying my considerable powers of intellectual synthesis (the counterpart of my equally considerable powers of analysis), I asked myself, “Could there a sort of omnibus catch-all criterion that might provide a criteriological baseline which might then serve to unify these criteria?” Yes, I thought, of course there is. The primary or primitive Baseline Criterion unifying the secondary criteria would be “Reduced Cognitive Attainment,” a quality that the members of the Halifax Underclass share to varying degrees. Of course further work needs to be done. A fine-grained analysis of Reduced Cognitive Attainment” itself is required since all to not share in it to the same degree. In any case, Montrealman will be listening to the quality of your minds on future threads and assigning to each one the appropriate secondary criteria. Good luck to all!
One or two thoughts on subsequent comments since my last appearance. TTFN’s clip featuring the small whippet was very interesting but it seemed so small it might have been an Italian Greyhound. Perhaps Paingirl, the resident expert on Greyhounds, can provide a decisive ruling.
(By the way, I enjoyed your clip on the famous philosophers. A bunch of drunks, as I always suspected.)
Anglo’s reference to a “meme” as an instance the sixth criterion (“Conceptual Confusion,” Montrealman, April 26, 4:59PM) suggested that he was about to engage the thought of the British botanist and thinker Richard Dawkins. Dawkins maintained that, in addition to “the selfish gene” which determined behaviour at the individual level, there also there existed a similarly hereditary social gene, the “meme,” which determined behaviour at the social level. My latest reading of Dawkins (“Reweaving the Rainbow”) did not, as I recall, explore the concept in any depth. However, Anglo’s subsequent comment dispelled any illusions of an investigation of Dawkins’ thought. He (Anglo) remains “conceptually confused.”
On the walk with the whippets this morning I spied a worm lying on an asphalt driveway. It seemed to be in some distress since there was a heavy rain last night. It was wriggling, but only slightly. Carefully, I picked the worm up and placed it gently onto a patch of grass. I want to leave you with that thought.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
ttfn’s photo were italian greyhounds or iggys as lovers of the breed call them. mine was a photo of a jack russell and whippet cross^^
‘Reduced Cognitive Attainment’? ‘Reduced’ like getting old and senile?
the dog on the program was a whippet, tho a very small one http://6.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kvjqchFby…
“ANNIE”
My beloved Annie closely resembled the middle whippet in colour but was more beautiful. Annie died in 2000 but, like the inscription on the triplicate metal frame in our TV room showing different poses of her says, we will always be “Best Friends Forever.”
Cheerio!
we have many whippets in our greyhound group. such gentle creatures…i find the iggys too small^^
I love Iggies – just not the federal one so much.
Actually, I’m a hard core Labrador and Dachshund fanatic – unfortunately, I can’t keep up with a Lab these days so a mini-sausage hound is just my speed.
I also love not-so-purebred Siamese cats – I had two of the best, Sophie and Loretta, who lived 16 years and 18 years respectively. I know I’ll never find a pair like them but I’d love to have a couple of kitten sisters once I’m home fulltime, in about a year or so.
The only animal I don’t appreciate are fucking deer – I haven’t been able to have a garden in 18 years because of those four-footed white tailed tick condos.
i love trying to guess the mixes of the dogs that come in the shoppe. snausage dogs are saweet… longed lived kittys rawk http://www.animalfriendsrescue.org/availab…
Dawkins? I got bored of reading his stuff, not that I didn’t understand it it just was well shit, I find him boring and unable to get his point across in a manner that doesn’t make him sound like a complete dick, if it wasn’t for the fact he was great friends with Mr Douglas Adams then he would be lower in my estimations of him.
Speaking of the subject of Mr Adams, what I did Mr MM was called Satire, I took a vague scientific concept and made a joke about it which reflected the humour of the board. Now do you think that Mr Dawkins ever sat down with Mr Adams and said how shit Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy was, and how flawed Adams’ satire of the probability of the universe was?