
Q I recently discovered that my boyfriend of seven months and I have opposing viewpoints on the whole “life begins at conception” issue. He’s not a crazy zealot, but he is strongly against abortion. And while he won’t go so far as to say abortion should be banned, he does believe in the whole “personhood” concept, that a fetus—from the moment of conception—is a person with the same rights as any other person. This shocked me, and I almost broke up with him.
He says that disagreeing on issues is fine in a relationship, but I am not so sure. I find his position abhorrent, one that ignores hundreds of real-life factors, and it opens the door for a litany of laws regulating my body. He’s a sweet, loving guy and progressive in every other way. But I’m suddenly unsure about a relationship I viewed as totally solid just a few days ago.
I’m not sure if this should be a deal breaker or if this is just a disagreement. Please advise. –Love Is Finding Errors
A Your boyfriend won’t go so far as to say abortion should be banned…or maybe he saw the shocked look on your face and realized that going so far as to say abortion should be banned to you would be a big mistake.
Here’s a good way to find out if your boyfriend is serious about not wanting to impose his personal beliefs on others or whether he’s an anti-choice zealot: Tell him you’re pregnant.
Some men blithely assume anti-choice positions because “personhood” and other anti-choice arguments appeal to them in the abstract and, hey, it’s not like their bodies or their futures are on the line, right?
Most anti-choice-in-the-abstract men come to a very different conclusion about the importance of access to safe and legal abortion when an unplanned pregnancy impacts them directly.
So tell your boyfriend you’re pregnant.
You can present it as a thought experiment if you prefer, LIFE, but I think you should flat-out lie to him. Then, once the news sinks in, ask him if he’s ready to provide financial support for a child and/or make regular, monthly child support payments directly to you.
Ask him if he’s ready for the responsibilities (and the grind) of full- or even part-time parenting. Ask him if he knows you well enough—just seven short months into this relationship—to make the kind of lifetime commitment that scrambling your DNA together entails. Because even if you don’t get married, even if you don’t live together and raise this child together, you two will be stuck with each other for the rest of your lives if you have the baby.
I’m guessing his answers will be “no, no and no” and he’ll offer to drive you to the nearest abortion clinic himself.
As for whether you should date someone who is anti-choice, well, women have to be in control of their own bodies—and when and whether they reproduce—in order to be truly equal. I don’t think I could date someone who didn’t see me as his equal or who believed that the state should regulate my sexual or reproductive choices.
So, yeah, this shit would be a dealbreaker for me, LIFE, if I had a vagina.
Actually, this issue is a dealbreaker for me, even though I don’t have a vagina. I wouldn’t date a gay dude who was anti-choice. Any gay man who can’t see the connection between a woman’s right to have children when she chooses and his right to love and marry the person he chooses is an idiot. And I don’t date idiots.
If your hypothetical pregnancy doesn’t shock your boyfriend out of his idiocy, LIFE, you’ll have to ask yourself if you can continue dating this idiot.
Q I found porn on my kid’s computer and I talked to him about being careful about spyware, the difference between actual intimacy and objectification and that kind of thing.
I don’t have a problem with a 15-year-old boy looking at porn—so long as he’s discreet and doesn’t do it to excess. But what my kid was looking at was standard stuff, i.e., garden variety M/F porn and a touch of M/M porn.
But a friend found a stash of really kinky violence-against-women stuff on her kid’s computer. I’m thinking a parent can’t let that go as easily. She’s about to confront her kid.
I don’t think you can help her with what to say, since she’ll already have said something, but what would you have advised her to say? –My Friend’s Kinky Son
A You meet two kinds of people at kink events and in kink spaces: people who’ve always known they were kinky—people who were jerking off to kinky fantasies and/or porn long before they were 15—and people who got into kink after falling in love with someone who was kinky. Your friend’s son sounds like one of the former.
It’s important for your friend to bear in mind that her son, if he is indeed kinky, sought out kinky porn. Kinky porn didn’t make him kinky. And being shamed by his mother for his porn preferences—or his kinks—isn’t going to unmake his kinks.
That said, MFKS, your friend should talk with her son about the difference between porn and real sex—kinky or vanilla—and the difference between erotic power exchange and violence. She should also talk to him about safety and misogyny, and she should encourage him to be thoughtful about his sexuality. And most importantly, MFKS, she should emphasize the importance of meaningful and informed CONSENT.
Your friend’s son isn’t going to want to dialogue with his mom about his porn stash or his kinks, MFKS, so she should go in prepared to monologue at him.
Finally, there’s a chance that your friend’s son isn’t kinky and was just looking for the most appalling shit he could find on the internet. Mom should acknowledge that as a possibility, and her son, even if he is kinky, is likely to seize on that excuse.
If he does claim that he was just looking for shocking video clips, she should say: “I believe you. But there’s a small chance that you’re saying that because you think it’s what I want to hear. So I’m going to say everything I wanted to say about safety, misogyny and consent just in case. And all of it applies to vanilla sex, too.”
This article appears in Oct 11-17, 2012.


The advice for that girlfriend is probably some of the worst I’ve seen. He was honest enough to give his opinion to his girlfriend, and SL is basing her response completely on conjecture; honestly it wouldn’t be a surprise if the boyfriend dumped her immediately after he found out that she was just testing him.
The only conceivable way for a male to perform a similar test on his female partner would be for him to say that unless they adopted said child, that it would have to be aborted….and thats almost blackmail.
I love this article and read it every week. I often love the advise given and I truly respect the research and thoroughness of said advise. This week however, I am disgusted. I am anti-abortion while also fully aware that I’ve never been in the situation where a decision like this would have to be made. I have however had a missed-abortion – a miscarriage for a planned pregnancy where the fetus did not survive but my body did not do what is natural and “shed” said fetus, therefore I had to have a procedure very much akin to an abortion.
Having said all this, I can tell you I strongly believe if I had been put in the situation where I had to make this very hard and life changing decision, I would choose the honourable and self-less choice to give the baby to a deserving and loving family. To imply to “LIFE” that there are only two options – abortion, or life – is a great misuse of the authority granted to you, Dan, in writing this article every week.
Being anti-abortion does not make me ignorant of individual struggles and life challenges. I have had the opportunity in my life to be there for and to support a friend while in our mid-teens as she was having her abortion. I supported her in her decision although I did not agree with it and she understood this and in turn respected me more.
My purpose for this comment is not to argue anti-abortion vs. anti-choice. It is to show you, Dan, as well as “LIFE” that just because a person has strong beliefs, does not make them ignorant or self-righteous. They can be compassionate as well as impassioned. Judgement doesn’t have to be passed simply because different views are held.
My other purpose for this article is to point out to you, Dan, that if you want to hold on to loyal readers in the future, you should continue to give the thorough advise I have read in your articles in the past.
Yeah this Dan Savage column was shitty. I’m mildly pro-choice myself, but I can certainly see the other side. I don’t think people who are against abortion are necessarily idiots.
If a woman I was seeing told me they were pregnant just to see how I would react, that would be the end of the relationship, regardless of our respective ideological positions. That’s terrible advice.
Don’t know if this will make it into tomorrows print edition or not, but found this in a Seatle version of The Coast:
I was happy to see my letter in your column. After I wrote you, I had a long conversation with my boyfriend. When I asked what we should do if I was pregnant—something all sexually active couples should talk about—he said he would want me to give it up for adoption or keep it, but that I could have an abortion since “the letter of the law was on my side” (we live in Canada, for which I am eternally grateful). After a couple days of thinking about it, I reopened the discussion. Even though he claimed he respected me, he admitted that he would ban abortion if he could, essentially arguing that I am less capable of understanding what pregnancy means and the effect it would have on my life than he is. I broke up with him. I’m writing to thank you for giving me the boost I needed and to calm the nerves of the commentators who really didn’t like the lie-about-pregnancy suggestion.
Love Is Finding Errors
Savage Responds:
I’m glad your anti-choice boyfriend is now your anti-choice ex, LIFE, and your letter is a good reminder to everyone who reads my column or any other advice slinger’s column: It’s “advice,” not “binding arbitration.” The people who ask me for advice are free to make up their own minds. And I encourage everyone whose letter appears in the column to lurk in the comments and see what you have to say. Because sometimes your advice is better than mine.
Finally, a word to all the anti-choice men out there who were so hurt that I told their girlfriends—imaginary in many instances—to dump them: If you oppose abortion because you believe that “sexual choices should have consequences,” as more than one of you stated (was there a form letter circulating?), then you should be able to wrap your heads around this: Political choices have consequences, too. You can choose to be anti-choice, and women can choose not to date you.
Consequences! They’re not just for women anymore!
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