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As Halifax gets ready for Hopscotch, visiting artist Aaron Li-Hill disagrees with HRM councillor Linda Mosher that graffiti has no place at the annual hip-hop showcase.

“I find it funny she’s saying that,” says Li-Hill. “What’s being painted at the festival is not illegal. Even if it’s in that style.”

Toronto-based Li-Hill, one of three “urban artists” showcased at Hopscotch this year, has travelled the world painting and is no stranger to graffiti controversy. “It’s one of the hard things about graffiti,” he says, “it’s very misunderstood.”

Mosher, who heads HRM’s graffiti task force, felt last year’s use of “bubble letters” at Hopscotch was too similar to tagging, which she considers “out-and-out vandalism.” “Nobody is going to try and propose someone’s moniker as art,” she says.

Li-Hill disagrees. “As a graffiti artist, you kind of have to go through those stages,” he says. “When I was a kid, I painted in those alleyways, because that’s where you start.”

Likewise, tagging and graffiti are as much about appreciating the performance as the aesthetic, explains Li-Hill. “Anyone can make art in perfect conditions. But to be out on a street corner at 4am—out of this crazy amount of physical and mental pressure, they’re creating something beautiful.” The tag, he argues, is “the remnant of something that happened between the person and the street at that moment.”

Fellow artist Christian Toth disagrees. “I do not in any way condone tagging,” he says. “There is no graffiti at the festival. There is no tagging at the festival,” adding anyone who thinks so is “completely uneducated.”

Raised partly in Halifax, Toth had “a lot of fun” working with Hopscotch last year, but like Mosher, he wants to disassociate the festival’s agenda from graffiti. “Whenever you mention graffiti,” he says, “people tend to paint that with a negative brush.”

Li-Hill, meanwhile, finds graffiti’s mostly illegal nature to be refreshing. “I find graffiti an interesting secondary option in the art world,” he says. “You’re able to have your stuff seen, but it doesn’t belong to anyone. The average person doesn’t go to museums, or art galleries.”

That independence is what made graffiti integral to hip-hop, but Mosher remains unconvinced. “If you watch the videos, they’re all smoking drugs,” she says. “So we don’t promote everything related to hip-hop.”

The city spends millions annually on removing graffiti, she says, and has recently started a three-month pilot project with the specialists at Goodbye Graffiti. The company, which already has a $100,000 tender from HRM for paint removal, will receive $47,000 to patrol the downtown core, identifying and removing any graffiti in a three-day window.

Li-Hill feels such actions aren’t beneficial. “Graffiti is literally putting colour back on walls,” he says. “Urban society, we cover everything with muted greys and muted browns. The natural world is a lot more colourful. Even if it seems intrusive, I think there’s still a basic benefit in that. It’s showing that somebody was there.”

Li-Hill also believes festivals lelp put a “friendly face” on graffiti and open a dialogue between artist and citizen.

Mosher is unlikely to be part of that dialogue—she’s no longer planning to attend Hopscotch after numerous “cranky” phone calls. “I don’t want youth to think I’m trying to take away artistic expression,” she says. “But at the same time we have a vandalism problem.”

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  1. Halifax needs a legal zone for graffiti. Even Rob Ford in Toronto has seen the logic in creating an area where people can work on quality pieces without being hassled by law enforcement and wasting tax money on removal, which just primes the wall for a new piece anyway. Its a pointless cycle of stubbornness that just wastes a lot of time and money.

    Old people: you aren’t supposed to understand graffiti. It’s confusing to you because its not for you. I know thats a terrible shock to baby boomers who assume that everything on this planet was made for them. If you have a knee-jerk reaction of fury to someone painting on a retaining wall on the railroad tracks, that no-one will ever see, then you have become an old fart, and need a hobby.

  2. I’m not a baby boomer and I don’t think anybody owes me anything, why do people feel they have the right to create ‘art’ on a canvas that doesn’t belong to them?

    Linda Mosher has every right to be exasperated at this, the city spends wads of cash getting rid of nuisance graffiti and at the same time encourages it.

    Graf artists laugh when they hear people talk about how ‘legal’ graf areas will reduce unwanted graf in other areas.

  3. Maybe you’re right, and some graf artists would laugh, but not all of them, and the best you’re ever going to do anyways is reduce the problems with graffiti, so why not just take a common sense, co-operative approach? At least then you could say the city made an honest effort to approach the problem in a constructive way. Wouldnt cost as much either. A lot of the money that the city spends on graffiti removal is under train bridges, on retaining walls in the rail cut, and generally obscure places. I have a hard time believing that most people would think thats a good way to spend money.

  4. OK, Be interesting, what is your definition of “old people”? I may very well be one, so just wanted to know for sure. I have seen a lot of graffiti over the years and I must say that it has been a great experience. Some of it has served to educate me, some of it has brought a smile to my face and some of it has entertained me. The artwork is amazing! I am always impressed by the talent of the graffiti artist.
    So, if I fit into “your” category of “old people”, please be corrected – I do understand graffiti. It is for me. I don’t think that everything on this planet was made for me. I’m not an old fart and I don’t need a hobby.
    You would be wise to not “paint” everyone with the same can of spray paint!

  5. I am referring mostly to the people who leave the raging, frothing comments calling for capital punishment for vandals in the comments sections after most articles about graffiti. The “back in my day” types. I’m over thirty, so i’m not exactly the definition of youth myself. No offense to those who consider themselves old, but its usually this group that seems the surliest about this stuff.

    And for the record, it’s not like I’m pro tagging, or for having your house vandalized, but taking a hard-line, black and white stance on stuff like this is pointless. The issue is, do you want to reduce graffiti, and spend less money dealing with it? Or do you want to irrationally spend money to seem like you’re taking care of the problem? Maybe the solutions that seem to work in other cities won’t work here for some reason, but I think someone should try. Do you think full time graffiti police is a good way to spend tax money?

  6. Young people: You may honestly believe that you aren’t supposed to understand the concept of private property, but that’s only because nobody has ever taken the time to explain it to you. It’s confusing to you because you’ve never had to pay for anything other than your own gratification and even then it was probably on your parent’s dime. I know that’s a terrible shock to the young, passionate and creative who assume that everything on this planet was made for them. If you have a knee-jerk reaction of fury to someone objecting to the mindless vandalism of someone squiggling on ANYFUCKINGTHING that doesn’t belong to them, them you are a self entitled twat, and need a job, a hobby and a size ten work boot in the arse.

    Since I don’t support the creation of “Rape Zones” or “Swarming Areas” where “enthusiasts” can practice their “craft” without being hassled by law enforcement it goes without saying that I am devoted to spending tax dollars on law enforcement to protect against or at the very lest limit the damage of this “pointless cycle of stubbornness”. The difference is of degree; not of kind.

  7. Wild hyperbole aside I think I agree with the basic thrust of Col. Ivan’s rant. I don’t support the destruction of anyone’s private property either, and think that any such transgressions should be dealt with in an appropriate way. If thats law enforcement, so be it.

    I think a “rape zone” is a silly thing to introduce to the conversation. There are people who have turned graffiti into a career, and have become legitimate successes. Equating graffiti to rape is offensive, and is exactly the type of frothy nonsense I expect to see in comment sections when the word graffiti is used. It makes no sense, and has nothing to do with the conversation.

    All I”m saying is: At least give people a chance to act responsibly. Establish an area to paint in. Somewhere out of the way that won’t bother anyone else. Anyone who paints outside that area, do whatever wild reactionary stuff you want to them.

  8. Sorry, but giving them a place to ‘practice’ on doesn’t work. No tagger will be happy unless his shit is ‘out there’. Fuck ’em.

  9. Heh heh – wild hyperbole is my Testor’s airplane glue – it gets me through the day. And I will repeat myself; from the perspective of the perpetrator the difference between rape and vandalism is one of degree, not of kind. Both have in common the notion of “That which I cannot attain through merit or labour, I will defile through power”. So, for the benefit of those whose brains have not been irreparably addled from huffing freon – If it is your property or you have the owner’s express permission to decorate it – spray away. If not, keep your dickskinners (and your sub-literate squiggles) off.

  10. There is no such thing as a “graffiti artist”. They are vandals and criminals, not artists.

    Col. Ivan is exactly correct. Personally I would recommend corporal punishment for all such vandals caught in the act. I support Coun. Mosher and wonder why my tax dollars are being used to promote a negative cultural phenomenon that should be scrubbed from society.

  11. First of all, not ALL of them go around painting houses and stores. Second, give them somewhere to paint. Third, Linda Mosher is a cunt and should shut up. You are not a hip hop fan and you should not be welcome at such events since you look down on it so much.

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