I’ve got a gripe that is really getting under my skin. Namely when I’m flying somewhere and the person in front of me decides that it’s their right to recline their seat against my knees. Just because there is a recline button doesn’t mean you can forgo all manners for your fellow passengers and ram that seat into me.
In the future, I’m going to bump into your seat-back over and over… every time you start to drift off to sleep; I’m going to pull on the seat as I adjust positions. I’ll aim the air deflector at the back of your head. I’ll sneeze at the back of your head. I’ll leave little pieces of toilet paper in your hair. I’ll fart whenever the urge comes without feeling like I need to hold back.
Manners are a two way street and if my comfort doesn’t matter; neither does yours! —Average Sized Passenger
This article appears in Apr 12-18, 2012.
Fly Porter. MUCH more leg room so you don’t have to worry about that shizzit.
Or if it bothers you THAT much, opt for a seat in the emerg exits or right up front.
Petty K beat me to it…. I was trying to come up with a reference to the airlines name without saying it ( I thought we were only allowed to refer to it in a way that may identify it, but isn’t its real name like timmie’s or rotten ronnie’s )
But I definately agreee with Ms P K.
I also love the fact they fly into the island airport in downtown Toronto. Very convenient.
Did you lose your voice, OP? Couldn’t you mention your dilemna to the offending person in a nice, constructive way? If not, stab the back of their seat with a plastic knife.
You’re a dumbass op. And the previous three comments demonstrate why.
You want a first class ride, you entitled fatass? Pay for it.
Whatever, crayons. The OB is simply stating that it’s rude to recline your seat when you’re going to be impeding on the leg room of a fellow passenger.
You shouldn’t have to change airlines or fly first class to have the space that really should be yours anyway.
Kick the seat or say something next time, OB.
I beleive our resident Professor Emeritus in the Humanities, Para-sailing Donk should weigh in on this issue….
I think, More-on, if you’re saying good things, you don’t have to disguise the name 🙂
When you think ‘RECLINE’ is that what comes to mind?
uh, NO.
If a lazyboy only did that, they’d be outta fucking business.
I wish they’d do away with that stupid button really….
a couple of degrees for you sitting there doesn’t mean shit when trying to sleep or slouch or whatever… but that couple of degrees means a SHITLOAD to the person sitting behind you who now, because of you, can’t even fit their tiny, plastic cup on half the shitty, fold out tray.
hoo-hoo! Say this with an English accent, and you’ll sound like my mum: “Put your hands on his headrest and LOCK YOUR ARMS! He will think there’s something wrong with his seat”
Another elderly British lady taught my mum this one about 20 years ago. It works.
If it’s OB’s leg room why do they make chairs that can recline into it? No doubt OB is probably reclining on his end and then gets annoyed when someone reclines into his leg room.
Plus, what if someone is reclining into your space, what are you supposed to do? Just suck it up and be uncomfortable, no you recline your seat too and everything is as it should be all the way to the back of the plane like dominos.
The way I see it, this person has paid for their airfare JUST LIKE YOU and as such, they are entitled to: 1. be on the flight;
2. the same amount of personal space, (i.e. seat, legroom, under-seat and overhead storage) as you;
3. ALL the comforts, safety features, conveniences and amenities that the airline is offering to passengers of the same ticket class, which includes the FULL use of the reclining seats! So a big FUCK YOU, OB. You’re a world class dick! You don’t like it, too bad, princess. As was suggested above, you paid to fly standard class just like this other person did. Deal with it. Either suck it up, build a bridge and get over it, pick a bulkhead seat or shell out the extra bucks next time to fly business class.
If you EVER pulled the childish shit you just described, on me, I would, first and foremost, be lodging a formal complaint with the flight attendant who would then either move your sulking ass to another seat or, if you continued to be a giant douche and kicked up a big enough stink, could potentially have you kicked off the plane. (Airlines don’t suffer idiots like you for very long in today’s world. See how far crying to the Mounties about someone’s reclining seat ruining your trip will get you as you are being lead away in cuffs to be registered as an airline security risk. I’m sure they’ll be ohhh sooo sympathetic to your plight, ya ass!) And if all that didn’t happen, well, let’s just say that due to the unpredictable nature of wind shear and turbulance at 20,000 feet, I can’t be held responsible for my cup of hot coffee flying in your direction when we hit the next air pocket.
You know, it just occurred to me, you sound just like a whiney fucking 5 year old on a road trip with a sibling. “Mommy, he’s touching me! Wahh! He’s on my side of the seat! Wahh!” Grow the hell up.
No naveed fuck that. If it’s a bad idea to recline seats, then they wouldn’t recline. Some people get airsick. They want to recline that shit. I betcha OB does his fair share of reclining himself.
OB is clearly not a world traveler. Try being sandwiched between two overweight chinese guys for 16 hours. pfft…
If you’ve paid for that space and are entitled to it, then why does the seat in front of you eve HAVE a recline option??
Look if i designed airplanes, they’d look a HELL of a lot different. But i don’t. So they’re not.
You sound like a super high maintenance traveler OP. You need to get used to how it is.
that’s why i hate flying, for one reason. but for me, it’s the leg room. i have fairly long legs, amonst other things, and it pisses me off that i can’t stretch them out. even on that big fucking dropped nosed fucker going to england, a few years back.
if it’s a short flight it’s not bad but i too have long limbs and it gets a bit cramped. trains and ships are more fun, when you don’t have time constraints. porter rawks
I see your “good things’ reply Ms Petty K & no interference from a moderator…so you must be correct.
Personally, if you are posting your personal opinion on a business, whether good or bad, I don’t see the problem. Its not like anyone else may agree with you for a good review or a bad review…must go back to that fire fighter freak (gasp ! can i say that ~;) episode where they took the Coast to court to get email addresses from some who posted personal derogatory comments about the Fire Serices top dogs (shit…I hope you are you allowed to call them dogs) after all isn’t top dog a good thing ~;p
dog=god is not a coincidence
I have a feeling that your actions may spark a little rivalry, OB. I’m of the opinion that Homer Simpsons “bed goes up, bed goes down” could easily be translated to accomodate the similarities of a reclining airplane seat. Best not to poke the bear at the zoo, you may find the vindictive side of the passenger that holds your comfort hostage.
Shame that for short hauls, north-american trains take much, much longer. Seriously, Halifax-Montrela by train shouldn’t take OVER 20 HOURS and cost almost as much equivalent 1h½ flight. With a good high-speed train, that should be doable in 2-2½ hours, with an extra hour to Ottawa.
And yes, Porter rawks. Emergency aisle seats (legroom++) on Porter rawk moar.
Why do they make seats that can recline into people’s personal space? It just sounds like stupidly poor design to me. Why should somebody have the option of making themselves comfortable that the expense of somebody else? Take away that recline button.
If they lean back just let a big wet sneeze out, OB. The person sitting in front of you may reconsider once all that mist and snot drops on them. 😀
trod, the seats recline just as much as they did in the past. The only difference is that they reduced the amount of space between each seat to pack more of them in the same plane. Hence, the intrusion in personal space becomes a lot more noticeable.
ouat planes had less passengers, now they are the equivalent of flying buses
I’d love to go back to a more dignified and elegant form of air travel:
http://earnestandjest.files.wordpress.com/…
Minus, of course, all the burning and the ‘sploding and the”oh the humanity”
i’ve never flown on a helicopter or sea plane, i’d like that
The Old Man once saw orcas from a Twin Huey flying off of Vancouver Island. I’d love to go back in time to the days of Pan Am Clippers.
http://www.plan59.com/images/JPGs/paa38a.j…
aaaaaa, prop planes, much of my childhood was spent on these http://atomictoasters.com/wp-content/uploa…
First time I flew as a wean was Montreal to Fredericton on one of these:
http://wcam.mb.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/…
And Mom got to be evacuated from Cyprus on one of these:
http://www.abpic.co.uk/images/images/12075…
A 10 hour flight to Lahr on canvas and webbing benches. Lots of legroom but the loo was a tin can with blanket hung in front of it.
THE PARADOX OF MASS AIR TRAVEL
Mass air travel can be be divided into those who travel, usually domestically, by necessity and those who travel internationally for “pleasure.” My concern is with the latter, particularly with Europe as a destination.
The paradox of mass air travel relates not so much to the irritation and boredom of the passengers in cattle class which, of course, cannot be overlooked, but more to the cultural flattening of the concept of travel itself. In other words travel has become tourism, an activity where one becomes just another piece of flotsam in the tidal wave of humanity that descends upon the European capitals every summer. (“If this is Tuesday, this must be Belgium!”)
However, this banalization of what once was a great romantic adventure is not restricted to mass air travel but rather is a generalized consequence of modern technology itself. We have the technology but not the cultural dimension to make it worthwhile. There seems to be an inverted relatonship between technological sophistication and cultural substance. It is true that one can get to Europe in a few hours but the paradox consists in one wondering, “Why bother?”
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Thanks Maes. I personally don’t fly too often (twice in my lifetime of 55 years) but my point still stands. If you’re going have a situation where the someone has the ability to do something which will infringe on someone else’s personal space and comfort, remove that ability to begin with and avoid the conflict.
for some, it’s the journey not the destination
dog=god exactly painy.
I love flying in helicopters, the excitement of flying slowly & hovering completely cancels out the fear,that if the motor stops working we’re going to fall out of the sky like a stone ! Or at lest it does for me.
i suppose it’s like a roller coaster or sailing in big seas, when the bottom just drops out
They don’t call it the “Jesus Nut” for nothing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut
love it, little bits are useful
Hay Trood , are those kookaburas?
If you liked Ice Planet, I can loan you my pirated DVD of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NhSQARojp0
I believe you can buy devices that lock onto the tray table arms that prevents the chair in front of you from reclining.
Yes there are kookaburras Ivan. I believe they are sitting in an old gum tree. Merry, merry their life must be, those kookaburras sitting in the old gum tree.
I’ve seen March of the Penguins thanks, another great film.
Yes PG, for some it is the journey that’s most important but that’s why they have first class. I’m just trying to bring some order to the rabble (like me) in coach. : )
I’m just trying not to die on an aircraft so, for me, whether the seat reclines or not is secondary.
You posted that you were quite upset a couple of days ago. If it had to do with your dog, my personal condoleances.
*condolences
“Laugh Kookaburra, Laugh…” I will have my vengeance, in this world or the next. *shakes fist* >; )
RSVPs
: Ivan Wannabe (April 15, 10:22AM)
“A 10 hour flight to Lahr on canvas and webbing benches. Lots of legroom but the loo was a tin can with a blanket hung in front of it.”
: Paingirl (11:16AM)
“for some, it’s the journey not the destination”
Hmm.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
Exposition: My Mom was visiting Cyprus for the vacation of a lifetime. My Dad was serving with the Canadian contingent of UNFICYP and had taken some leave. They were staying in a hotel in Kyrenia when an ex-E.O.K.A. gunman named Nikos Sampson staged a coup d’etat overthrowing the somewhat moderate Greek Cypriot government of Archbishop Makarios. He then announced that Turkish Cypriots would be welcome to remain on the island as fertilizer for Greek farmers. Within 48 hours the Turkish military had launched the largest air & seaborne invasion since Normandy. After various adventures my Mom was packed on a C-130 with a bunch of other Canadian civilians and flown out to Germany. Dad’s unit rotated home in November, after sustaining 2 fatalities and another 2 dozen injuries severe enough to require med-evac to Canada. Very few people realize that in the summer of 1974, Canadian soldiers were in combat, ironically between 2 other N.A.T.O. nations.
yes trood, our beloved hound is gone. it’s tough
painy…that sucks !
~:’/
RSVPs
: Paingirl (April 15, 6:54PM)
Sorry about the greyhound, Painey. I know how it feels. Lily and Wynnie send their regards.
: Ivan Wannabe (5:17PM)
Remind me to avoid C-130s in my future travel plans.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk
Of course, Montrealman. Unless you are in some part of the world where things are apt to require a military evacuation it’s probably not a big risk for you. I got to fly in one from Trenton to Quebec City. Being 13, I thought it was cool. (No, it wasn’t an evacuation, and, in that vein, I avoided the tincan loo as well.)
Oh no Painy! I am so sorry to hear of your loss. My deepest and sincerest condolences. You may not remember but I had the pleasure of meeting your grey on a couple of occasions. I particularly loved how he would greet everyone who entered the shop at the door. I think I may have even gotten a greyhound hug (lean) once. He was a gentle soul.
My sympathies again, Painy. My thoughts are with you.
*does best Futurama Nixon impression* Arrrrrrrroooooooooo 🙁
Painey–I am so sorry for your loss. The important thing to remember is that he had a good life, was well fed and well loved.
I used to fly the air canada turboprops regularly from Hartford to Toronto. I didn’t mind them at all–I think they were one of the safest planes on record then–
RSVP
: Ivan Wannabe (April 16, 9:36AM)
Remind me to avoid those parts of the world where things are apt to require a military evacuation.
A pleasure as always.
Cheerio!
For Lily and Wynnie’s sake, I will, Professor C.