You annoying as hell seal hunt protesters following around the Olympic torch like a god damned parasite. You vultures scavenging off the scraps of media attention left behind by our deserving torch bearers. Are you really so desperate that you need a GIANT SEAL BALLOON in addition to your bloody shock value posters? I have no problem with you crazies protesting, no one gives a shit about your inane arguments anyway, but for fuck sakes stop trying to hijack the torch relay to promote your ridiculous campaign! Let the crowd focus on the torch relay, assholes.
—not cheering for you
This article appears in Nov 19-25, 2009.
I think it’s great. PETA s one of the most media savvy organisations out there. They are entertaining. I hope I see them and they are selling t-shirts of the inukshuk clubbing the seal. Those are very well done.
where’s a crazy metro driver when you need one?
Tweev, you’re a moron. Activists like that only get positive press from within their groups. Most of the world looks at PETA et al. as a bunch of red paint throwing sanctimonious assholes. Having Pamela Anderson as a spokesperson doesn’t make it any better.
peta is the worst
I was on Carmichel St on Thurs night and there was a young girl waiting to see the torch dressed in the touch bearer outfit with an unlit torch. She must have run and earlier leg. As we waited ppl were asking her to pose for pictures which seemed to thrill her. Before long 2 peta assfucks stood behind her with their posters and put an end to the fun. Joyless, selfish, arrogant mother fuckers.
misery loves company!
I double dare the seal protesters to hug a real seal. I’d pay to see the seal chew the protesters faces off. Now there’s true gratitude.
If they can put up inflatable seals & protest…can we club them with inflatable bats ?
Just wondering…
I think the regular non-inflatable bats or clubs would do just fine 🙂
PETA – People Eat Tortoises Arseholes?
Paranoid English Tit Assessers?
Poxy Embaressing Twat Archivers?
I know a lot of you can do better than that, come on let’s see you
At least they aren’t making things up. There’s no slander here. It’s a fact that seals are clubbed. The trouble for them is: People don’t much care.
If you’ve successfully hijacked media events for a long time and nothing has changed, there’s a chance people just simply don’t agree with you. If that’s the case, then it’s no longer an issue of getting the truth out (it’s just one of trying to change people’s minds), and THAT does not call for the pushy, guerilla media tactics.
People Enjoy Tasty Animals… If god didn’t want us to eat them…he wouldn’t have made them out of Meat !
I think you’re wrong, people do care quite a bit. Hence the controversy about it the the ban from Europe. Funny how the same people against killing seals will also line up to say that eating dog or horse is unethical.
I don’t the the problem people putting seals in the same camp as dogs and horses. Good for them.
they’re the Jehovah’s witnesses of seal faith… pushing their agenda on us…
I’d like to start a restaurant where you pick out your cute little baby seal and then we club and fry the fucker… I’m sure I can make some amuse bouche out of the nose or something….
waste not, want not
Yeah well, we push our agenda on people all over the world and tell them how they should run their lives.
I find it amusing seeing the tables turned. Sorry east coast of Canada, you’re the Uzbekistan of North America.
You hit the seal on the head, it dies, it does not suffer. Stop spreading lies, thanks!
PETA have good intentions but should be more focused on endangered species such as whales. Good intentions and brains don’t always go hand in hand. It’s never in good taste to use an event with no affiliation to your cause to gain support.
I heard Jann Arden is donating seal eyelid bras to the female athletes and seal eyelid jock straps to the male athletes.
Well said Murder Junkie, not to mention an organization can’t be responsible for all the wing-nuts that follow it… They have a legitimate cause, just the wrong implementation sometimes. These are the only events the media leeches onto, as usual the good goes overlooked.
I’d like to know what the last non-wing-nut thing PETA did.
Murder Junkie, I’ll say it too: You nailed it. That’s exactly what is wrong with the PETA tactic.
The only thing the olympics and seal-clubbing have in common is that they happen to occur in the same country this year.
Of course, since PETA seems willing to badmouth an entire country because of what 0.00001% of its residents are doing, there’s no much hope they’ll keep their protesting to around the ACTUAL sealers…and maybe public offices, where it makes sense to protest.
I love that the Globe and Mail pointed out that the PETA protesters ended up having their rally in front of a statue of Robbie Burns, a man who once wrote:
“Some hae meat and canna eat,
And some wad eat that want it,
But we hae meat and we can eat,
Sae the Lord be thankit.”
This protest doesn’t even make sense when it’s in a sealing area. There’s nothing wrong with our seal hunt. There’s no good reason to protest. All the information used by anti-sealhunt organizations are based on misinformation and propaganda. It’s more of a trend than a legitimate protest.
There’s nothing more wrong with sealing than there is hunting whales, eating dogs or cat, or eating Apes. Since I’m sure some of those animals would give most of us pause before we ate them, maybe the anti-sealers have a point?
There’s a significant amount of irony in that milderweather. Thanks for pointing that out. Sorry, Tweev, we aren’t the Uzbekistan of Canada. We can’t be that, because Uzbekistan is a country (potentially a failed state, but its a country). Try again, asshole.
PETA only preaches to the choir. Sorry to break it to you. PETA uses the same tactics that Greenpeace has resorted to in recent years. Increasingly violent, increasingly disruptive and increasingly negative publicity. There are better ways to have your voice heard. That said, I’m going to enjoy a big, greasy rack of ribs, as I sit around in my mink coat, with my seal fur moccasins.
So, Tweev, in remote areas of Africa apes are eaten. Dog and cat is on the menu in remote areas across the world. Guinea Pig and Chinchilla on the menu in the Andes. We in the first world are lucky to be able to choose what we eat/use in our society. You realise that this attitude does not work well?
zZz, that driver hung himself, remember. danny was a real nice guy too, too bad tho.
Dr. Fever. Right. Try thinking about what you’re saying for a minute and you’ll realize you;re an idiot.
“PETA’s “Animal Record” report for 2008, filed with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, shows that the animal rights group killed 95 percent of the dogs and cats in its care last year. During all of 2008, PETA found adoptive homes for just seven pets.”
Way to go PETA!!!!!
“PETA’s president has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.” And PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, solely because they support animal-based research aimed at curing life-threatening diseases and birth defects. And PETA helped to start and manage a quasi-medical front group, the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, to attack medical research head-on.”
That’s the bee’s knees!
OH man, you guys are pathetic. You’re not contributing anything intelligent to this post. “Increasingly violent, increasingly disruptive” what do you see in PETA that you see in yourself.
The anti PETA comments make it blatantly obvious that they are the violent, disruptive ones here.
“I’d like to start a restaurant where you pick out your cute little baby seal and then we club and fry the fucker… I’m sure I can make some amuse bouche out of the nose or something….”
“People Enjoy Tasty Animals… If god didn’t want us to eat them…he wouldn’t have made them out of Meat !” It’s been said before and is just not funny unless you’re a red neck I guess. Oh this just reeks of compassion – “I think the regular non-inflatable bats or clubs would do just fine :)” – nice put a smiley face after a comment about bludgeoning something.
PETA provides a voice for animals. If we were victims of a “superior” species that tortured, murdered, bludgeoned and medically tested us day in a day out would you not want someone to speak up for you if you couldn’t??? If you don’t see or care how horrible humans have treated animals then you are either mentally ill or … I don’t know a fucking idiot. PETA speaks up for animals. That is what they do and they are actually very successful at it.
There is something very disturbing about this abuse of power we have over animals. It reminds me of China and Tibet. Take the most harmless type of people, Buddhist Monks and the Dalai Lama and there is China oppressing, murdering, and God knows what since China put a publication ban on that.
You’re a big bunch of babies complaining about having your parade rained on. You didn’t want to be reminded of the suffering these animals endure they took away your joy, boohoo you wanker. So you can “sit around in my mink coat, with my seal fur moccasins” Big babies acting like big macho men who get some sadistic pleasure out of comments like this. Sad bunch you are.
PETA is a business pure and simple. It exists to make money for the higher-ups and dupe the morons below.
It is made up of fringe dwelling loons and opportunistic celebs. They enforce their world view only went it in convient for them.
Medical testing on animals is needed, and if 10,000 little bunnies get hurt to cure a disease, so be it. To place animals on the same level as humans borders on the, as you said, mentally ill, or I don’t know a fucking idiot.
So humans are on a higher level than animals are they? 10 000 bunnies to cure a disease, huh. How about curing the disease of lack of compassion in this world. Humans are supposedly smart, I’m sure we can think of ways not to test on animals. How about we test on the not so bright humans. If it is intelligence that you referring to as us being on the higher level than we shouldn’t have a problem doing away with them for our self serving purposes.
By your logic, if a dog and a child are drowning, you would assign equal weight to each’s survival.
I like how you have mentally challenged individuals = animals.
Nice.
If PETA wants to be taken seriously, then they should start acting like grown ups. When they keep using the ineffective tactics they currently do, it’s obvious they are just being self-serving and are not interested in educating the public or offering viable alternatives. Given their silly behaviour, it’s no wonder PETA draws silly comments.
Do PETA protesters have any idea what kind of ethics approvals must be met before animal testing can be done? Are they aware that the people who work in the animal care facilities monitor the animals for signs of excess suffering, mishandling and abuse on the part of the researchers and have to power to shut down research that violates their ethical rules? Does PETA care that the living environments of research animals are designed to provide a low stress and stimulating environment for the animals between experiments? Animal care facilities are staffed by veterinaries who LOVE animals. They are not torturers of animals. I have done research using animal models and I can tell you that it’s not the horror show that PETA would have you believe. Experiments are designed to keep animal use and suffering to a minimum. In many cases, there are no alternatives to animal models and the information that we get from using animal models has saved countless lives. PETA is made up of extremists, and like all extremists, they have no ability to see beyond their own agenda and arrogance and acknowledge the good that can come from animal use.
People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is a misnomer unless the only ethical treatment of an animal is no treatment.
Actually, I grew out of the “lets get up and protest at a big event by carrying signs and disrupting something bigger than us” phase. I protested at the WTO rallies in Montreal some time ago, and after being tear gassed and seeing the negative publicity that it generated (most protesters looked like a bunch of drunk/high idiots) I realized that this sort of “In your face” protesting got you nowhere. Want to know why PETA gets no respect? It’s because of protests like the one a few nights ago. Hiring people like Pamela Anderson, along with other celebrities. Going onto a public forum and making ridiculous comments like we’re the “Uzbekistan of North America”, or making it all about “compassion”, as if the general populace doesn’t have any. Look, until groups like PETA drop the holier-than-thou attitude, they will receive no respect from the average educated individual.
Agreed. Their extremism is effectively shutting them out of the dialogues they should be a part of. Instead of being a force for positive change, they are largely ignored by those who are in a position to actually make a difference.
Well let’s see Tweev, whales are endangered and eating apes can lead to transmission of hemorrhagic fevers, whereas seals are plentiful, provide high protein meat and oil, excellent fur and aren’t kept in factory farms. But keep going, I like seeing petards yarking misdirected misanthropy and self hate everywhere in an effort to feel like a just and sparkly special snowflake.
Actually many whale species are not endangered and could be harvested sustainably. Japan is right when it says that the IWC bases many of its conclusion on emotion rather than science. Sure there are species that areendangerd – but some are not. Yet, we consider whaling to be ethically wrong. Think about that.
By your reasoning we should be able to farm and eat apes, as long as sufficient health concerns could be controlled (we control them for pigs – we could do the same for apes). I think many north Americans would find eating apes to be repugnant.
My point is – whether you think sealing is ethical or not is completely arbitrary and culturally derived. A good chunk of the developed world thinks Canadian are barbarians for killing seals. Obviously, even we think there is an issue because we don’t club white coats, but wait and extra 3 weeks when they are older, less cute, and can be sold for far less.
Sure people want to protect them because they are charismatic, but we do that for lots of species already (apes, dogs, cats, whales). These people protesting the sealing industry are the same who protested the whaling industry and outlawed it in Canada. I think it’s great that people have decided to invite another species under our arbitrary tent of protection. I wish they would invite more.
#@%$… The hypocrasy of EU telling us we can’t cull the seal herd is ludicris .
French farmer keep geese that are forcibly fed to increase liver size, kept in cages & their livers harvested for fois Gras. The Spanish torture & kill bulls in a spectator sport & its hugely popular ! Then there’s veal & what those creatures suffer through until they are large enough & seeing as they aren’t allowed to move mmm very tender… explain to me how much more humane this is please ?
I say we go back to killing seal pups , even if they’re white coats, I would like to see more of the carcasses used however…perhaps to can the meat & if theres not a big enough market here for it, & in our Northern communities…perhaps…send it to developing countries where Protein rich foods are lacking…Where I come from , Northern Cape Breton, theres a saying “hunger makes the best sauce” I’m willing to bet we’d have third world countries lining up to accept it !
I have killed animals for meat in my life, from wild ones like rabbits , deer, partridge, pheasant & I’ve bought live pigs & done them up as well as buying beef on the hoof, all I can say about it is TASTEY !
You don’t like it TOO F’IN BAD .
Now excuse me i’ve got to finish my back bacon & toast .
Tweev, you understand that saying something like “the IWC bases many of its conclusion on emotion rather than science” is exactly what PETA does, right? Especially by rationalizing the protection of baby seals by saying they’re “charismatic”.
Also, the whole PETA movement is “culturally derived” to use your words. It originated in the west, and holds western values. Who made it your decision to persecute the cultures of an independent society? The whole issue of “animal rights” is a first world problem. People in remote Africa eat apes, and that’s how AIDS started. Are you going to fault people in remote areas for eating animals that you feel should have rights? To be honest, that’s just as culturally derived as seal hunting.
Fever, I’m glad you finally grasp the point.
Then, who gave you the right to judge others cultures? Because you’re from the first world? Explain that to me. Because to me, it’s that whole attitude that makes most modern activists so abhorrent.
Tweev, like all PETA fanatics, possesses the only true and righteous knowledge.
I’m sure the 3rd world “savages” would appreciate being set right.
Tweev would last 30 seconds, anywhere except Urban North America.
I like how the only reason anyone gives a fuck is because seals are kind of cute.
I’m not a PETA supported at all. I just respect their conclusions on animal rights and admire how effective they are at manipulating the media.
Of course I think my values are better than others. I think rape is wrong, I think racism is wrong, I think genital mutilation is wrong. I’m willing to force these values on other cultures. So are the Canadian people, hence entry in WW2, and our presence in Afghanistan.
I find it odd that people think the ‘ol status-quo is right and correct. The same thing happened during the civil rights movements and more recently when people were protesting the Iraq war. People like to go with group think because it’s easy. I like it when people take a stand back and say “wait a minute, this just isn’t right and I think we can do better.”
Also, I’m likely far more travelled than you Matt. That’s why I’ve given these things serious thought. And at the risk of sounding elitist, yes I do think my opinion is worth more than someone who has been rotting on the rock all their life.
By handing us that admittedly elitist drivel Tweev, you’ve demonstrated everything that is wrong with the modern activist movement in general. Guess what? Your shit does stink.
Oh, and one final comment. Equating the struggles of the civil rights movement to what PETA does is extremely offensive. I mean that.
Don’t care.
More- Funny how people come to the conclusion from what I wrote that I am against killing animals. Actually I would rather see someone shoot their own deer or catch their own fish then see livestock crowded in pens or 4 chickens kept in a one by two pen with their beaks cut off so they don’t peck each other to death piled 10 feet high with their feces dropping on the ones below. It is absolutely sickening how we can justify the kind of abuse that occurs. I think seal clubbing is necessary for the livelihood of those that live in that environment and who eat their meat and use their fur. I don’t agree killing just for fur, to me it’s the same as killing elephants for their ivory tusks.
I do agree that the EU are a bunch of hypocrites.
As for PETA being a bunch of extremists, well this is true. That is just how it works. People put up a stink for the right to vote, to be treated equally or any other right for that matter are considered extremists in the beginning. Any one who sees an injustice and takes a stand is an extremist in the beginning. They are also the ones we have to thank for our civil rights in the end.
Except that there is no good reason to stop the seal hunt. They aren’t endangered, they don’t suffer, it’s well regulated by high standards, they are not killed just for the fur, the whitecoats aren’t killed… why be extreme about something that’s not extreme??? Something that isn’t even remotely objectionable?
I don’t see how any of this is in any way on the same level as any civil rights movement in history and am disgusted that anyone would draw such a ridiculous and insulting parallel. People were extreme about those issues because they were extreme issues.
The seal hunt, however, is a NON-ISSUE
#@%$— again, equating what PETA does to the civil rights movement is like equating what Rosa Parks did to me going down to the Province House and shitting on the step. PETA is not that important. Get over yourself.
Again I never said PETA was important. Because they angered you guys so much I think deep down you actually think they’re important. They have brought many issues to light and have helped stop the suffering of many animals as a result, with your opinion on the seal hunt aside, how can any` average educated individual NOT feel good about that? You probably wouldn’t know all the good they do because you have closed your mind to it all and just get hot under the collar when they are around.
As for equating civil rights to animal rights, I think it is an interesting argument. At one time women and blacks were considered property much like animals are today. Funny how these things change as we EVOLVE.
I know that animals will always be consumed by humans and other animals. What I have difficulty with is the fact that because we have this power to take what we want when we want from the earth and we feel justified to do so. Power corrupts. We are after all the **all important all powerful humans** who will eventually destroy the habitat for all animals ourselves included.
Holy SHIT… You’re comparing black people and women to animals…
that is so unbelievably offensive…
I’m done here.
WORD
Black people and women are animals. So are white men. What are some religious nut who thinks humans are somehow divine? Yeesh!
You were done three posts ago.
Not divine…just not equal.
PETA has done nothing for the average individual. I would say that PETA is a loosely gathered group of self important celebrities and wanna be hipsters who don’t want to face third world issues or problems in general, so they protest a first world problem to make themselves feel better, and more importantly, important.
Fizz said it best. You’ve equated black people and women to animals. Do you not see what is wrong with that? “Rights” are an entirely human concept. Human inventions are meant to be used by humans.
Except this. This clearly meant to be used by animals.
http://www.littlepamperedpets.com/images/f…
Last time I checked, the seal hunt is almost like a population control (I use the term population control VERY LIGHTLY)… See, seals end up over eating fish. They over eat fish, there are not enough for people, and/or *GASP* other animals!
If you want to be all lovey-dovey with the animals, quit siding with such an extermist group that gets their panties in a bunch over a first nation tradition, and try supporting something like the ASPCA, or WWF
Miles, indeed. But doesn’t that infringe on the dog’s right to be free of the shackles of oppression imposed on it by man? According to cunt-whiff up there, dogs are just slaves, just like black people were hundreds of years ago.
I find the logo with the inukshuk clubbing the seal to be in poor taste. Surly there’s a better way to grab people’s attention than by dragging an iconic Canadian symbol though the dirt, our Olympic symbol at that. A symbol of a culture that ironically has great respect for nature and uses every bit of every animal they kill.
Equating humans with animals is a common tactic used by the PETA and other like-minded organizations to gain extra sympathy for the animals.
They use sensational language meant to refer to human issues like ‘war ‘ and ‘murder’. They equate a mother seals instinct to protect it’s pup to the “anguish” a human mother would feel if her child was in danger. They continually refer to the pups as “babies” to further blur the line between a human infant and a seal pup.
They also play up the innocence of the animals by calling them ‘gentle’ when in reality a wild seal can be very dangerous. There’s a reason why you only ever see celebrities petting small whitecoats and not full grown seals. The PETA also completely ignores the fact that hunting whitecoats has been illegal for decades and they still use images of them in their campaigns simply because they are cute and helpless looking. One small example of the PETA not just cherry picking their information, but outright lying to their supporters.
Personally I think that killing all the adult seals in an area and leaving the whitecoats to slowly starve without their mothers is crueler than shooting them.
Oh and here’s the icing on the cake. If you’re still not convinced that the PETA is equating humans and animals as a tactic to gain sympathy and support take a look at some of their protests:
http://www.olympicshame2010.com/Media/Imag…
http://www.olympicshame2010.com/Media/Imag…