and im not talking about people. this is about dogs.
i recently was looking over the tenants rights of canada (not nova scotia) and it says landlord cannot declare apartment complexes as non dog housing, a landlord must determine if a certian dog is not right for the apartment, and take it to court and prove the allegations
when i called some friends in other cities they all complied that this is the way it is always done, my toronto friend was in absolute shock when he found out dogs arn’t welcome on the metro transits, even ferry.
nova scotia is so ass backwards, whilst apartment hunting, your lucky to find one apartment or even rented house out of 100 that will not only take a dog but will meet with the dog beforehand
it is a huge slap in the face to here that while my dog may be excellent and trained and supervised constantly he had one tenat with a dog and it ruined it for everyone,
that is bullshit. not to mention that all these places that say no to dogs always say yes to kids, which are more destructive than most dogs.
in nova scotia it is law that all landlords can say no to dogs and it is up to a person to prove this law to be unjust.
yet there are over 20,000 dogs registered in hrm this year. where are they all living? im tired of seeing no dogs or dogs under 20lbs (my cat weighs more than that for fucks sake).
it has been an ignorance that has been tolerated for far to long. and im not moving into a slumlord run apartment which is what i was lucky to have found thus far with my dog, in a very unsafe nieghbourhood. its just really fair and unjust. i guesse thats the piont i was trying to make.
—my dog doesnt want to be homeless
This article appears in Nov 12-18, 2009.
We just had this conversation on Sunday. I love animals, but not certain animal owners who do not know how to keep their pets under control or out of harm’s way.
No one who owns a building has any obligation to allow any pets to live there. Where did you get the idea that a landlord has to accomodate pets of any kind? It’s their place, not yours.
And Christ—dogs on Metro Transit (aside from working service dogs)???? Oh please! Why on Earth would you think THAT would improve anything? Don’t you know how many problems we already have with Metro Transit?
Why do people have to take their dogs everywhere? Why do people think they should be able to bring their dogs into cafes, stores, school, on the bus? You didn’t see this 10 years ago. It’s a new thing, and completely ridiculous. Your dog won’t feel hurt just because he isn’t “invited” to join you at a coffee shop. He doesn’t even know what it is!
Your dog may be lovely, may be fabulously trained, and may be a great companion—but please don’t bring him into places where he isn’t welcome!!! Not everyone wants to be around other people’s animals.
And if you want to have pets, especially large pets, buy your own place with appropriate room for them to live in. It’s a lot more fair for the animal, you know. And, if you’re living in someone else’s place, follow the goddamned rules or get out!
For some reason, I thought a person had to be an ADULT to be allowed to rent an apartment. OP, grow up and stop thinking the whole world revolves around you.
Sheesh!
“You didn’t see this 10 years ago.”
Fur Kids are expected to be afforded all the rights of real kids now. Instead of babies, people want puppies. Maybe it’s because they die faster so you don’t have to commit so much of your life to them…or maybe it’s because they actually obey you when you tell them to fetch.
One other thing:
OP, don’t you even DARE to compare rules regulating animals to the historical reality of discrimination against people.
That is OBSCENE.
If I was denied access to an apartment or a job because of my race, that could potentially destroy my life. I would be outraged, because something rightfully mine would be denied me for no reason.
To equate that injustice with the level of “insult” that your dog would feel—”My dog feels just as bad as you do for not being allowed to live there”—is so utterly delusional that it doesn’t even deserve the polite response I am giving here.
Only the most ignorant white middle class spoiled brat would think there is something akin to racism going on when they are told—for whatever reason—that they cannot bring an animal into a certain place.
If I tell you you can’t bring a dog over to my house, then that is the end of the discussion.
Maybe I have cats. Maybe I have allergies. Maybe I have rare antiques that I don’t want to get broken. Maybe I only like certain kinds of dogs. Whatever, it’s not your concern.
YOUR only responsibility is to happily agree to my request, or don’t come at all.
If you think that is discrimination, you have a lot to learn about the world, and the brutality that millions of people—men, women, children, babies— are forced to endure every day.
I think spending some time in India, Afghanistan, or any North American slum will open your eyes to what real suffering and discrimination is like.
OP, you need to spend more time reading up on world events and less time arguing that you or your poor easily-offended dog is a victim of “discrimination.”
Ruby, I would say that the OP thinks the world revolves around her dog. While I am a dog lover, I agree they shouldn’t be allowed in apartment buildings.
Hey, OP…
You don’t automatically get the world on your side when you drop the D-bomb: “discrimination”.
Intelligent people know that it is not a bad word on its own.
When you choose to not to drink from a container because it reads “bleach” and not “water”, that’s discrimination.
You make the common mistake of not including a qualifier (“racial”, “age”…”toxicity”, etc), and hoping people will subconciously associate the kind of discrimination YOU are talking about with the kinds most people already know are ‘bad’ and have a kneejerk reaction against it.
Stupid, and, as RubyJane points out, sick.
…and there are plenty of good reasons to discriminate against dogs in particular. For one thing, we don’t let them drive, no matter how well trained they are. Post a bitch about that, why don’t you.
I once had a wonderful dog who was well-trained, and lovingly raised and taken care of. My personal circumstances changed, and I had to move from my house to an apartment. It broke my heart to do so, but I left my dog with a family member who had the time and space to take care of him. He lived a long and happy life until recently, and I was lucky enough to be able to see him regularly.
There are exceptions to every rule , but for the most part, an apartment is not a good place to raise a pet – *or* a kid. And often neither is welcome in an apartment complex because they don’t get the space they need to develop…
While there are times when you need to have a pet on Public Transit (you don’t have a car and you need to get to a vet, and can’t get a taxi to take your animal), they should be controlled, and unfortunately, many people who own dogs do not properly train them.
This is what these rules all boil down to, OP. I feel genuinely bad for people who have well-behaved/trained dogs who can’t manage to get a decent place to live, but based on life experience, whenever someone has a bad experience, it colours their views in the future.
Therefore, when some moron goes out and gets a large breed puppy, and tries to raise it in a one-bedroom apartment without ever giving it any decent exercise, and leaves it locked up for 12 hours a day while they go to work via transit, the resulting reaction/behaviour from the animal will cause the landlords and tenants to dislike the idea of having dogs in an apartment building. Unfortunately this applies to *all* dogs, small, large, whatever.
You’re in this situation because of the idiots that went before you, OP. And trust me – I lived in Toronto (with friends who had dogs), and it’s not a “pet utopia”.
I’d like the OB to provide a link to these so-called dog rights. There are very few pets out there that do not leave odours behind in any type of residence. Renters don’t care because they don’t have to shell out thousands to get a unit livable again. Just because you can’t see or smell it, doesn’t mean it’s not there. Piss in the corpets or wood and walls etc. Your security deposit doesn’t cover it.
Miles, that and the fact that they can’t actually communicate their true thoughts, so owners can project whatever ego inflating thoughts they want onto their pets.
I thought well behaved dogs (or muzzled) are allowed on the bus (I see them from time to time).
The Charter of “Doggy Rights” – first draft. To be voted on in the “House of Doggy Commons” after revisions.
As a Canine, you have the right to:
Destroy property during adorable puppy-stage while your person tells the property owner “It’s not his/her fault, s/he’s teething!”
Pee indiscriminately on stuff – the more expensive the better.
Drop ass and walk away.
Root through the garbage when something smells interesting.
Hide under the bed during thunderstorms whining until the noises stop – usually for 2-3 hours afterward so your person has to stay awake all night without killing you.
Chase cats. Or play with them.
Beg at the table, despite all instructions to the contrary.
Slobber all over your toys, generally right before you drop them into the lap of someone visiting who hates dogs.
Jump all over people – especially small children and people who hate dogs.
Bark at all hours of the day and night, ignoring all requests from your person to stop.
Bring your person dead things as a token of affection.
Steal the warm spot left by your person when they get up out of bed at 2am to let you out when what you *really* wanted was to steal the warm spot.
There – who wants to add?
calgary allows dogs on transit and the c train pay an adult ticket for the dog and it works great – its not “full” of dogs only maybe see a couple dogs in a week . But as being a scotian livin in calgary for a few months – i found it easy to take my dog everywhere without hassle . Noone minds that a dog is on a train/transit route . It causes no problems i seen and calgary done well at being a dog friendly city and it mostly has just friendly dogs . Now to the last poster – i clean up my dog shit – yea he pees on posts and trees – and he plays with cats- he’s not allowwed to roam free and never has so your garbage is safe – oh and yea he’s a 90 pound mastiff / staffordshire – did i say noone fucks with you when they see him ( crackheads cross the street ) so he’s worth the food . And i would say also he’s a well trained, mannerred animal that causes no problems and is human socialized . Just say your a dog hater and it makes it easier to explain without all that drivel . I say they should let dogs on transit and ferries pay the rate and the dog gets to go where you go
Dogs have the right to eat the snacks they find in the kitty litter box. And, when they get worms, as a result, they have the right to inform their owner by dragging their ass across the carpet.
I could almost be convinced that letting people take pets aboard public transit would be a good idea, but there is the issue of allergies.
About renting apartments to pet owners, an outright refusal by the landlords to rent is and should always be TOTALLY within their rights, but I think it is stupid.
Obviously there’s a risk on the landlord’s part, but many, many kinds of risk in the world have been investigated and had a dollar value attached. (See the insurance industry.)
The smart thing to do would be for landlords to actually work out how much it is worth for them to not have to worry about pets in their units, and offer to pass that cost on to prospective renters with pets.
“You want to have Fluffy live here with you? Sure. That will be an extra $ 150 per month.”
Problem solved.
HKM – I forgot that – we call them the “crunchy chewy snacks”
Weedhog,
That kind of thinking is part of the problem. You presume that everyone who insists on proper care and control of pets is automatically a “dog hater.”
I do happen to like dogs. But it is entirely up to ME to decide how much contact I will have with any particular dog or dog owner, NOT you.
Don’t presume that even dog lovers want their clothes, home or car destroyed just because some dog owners find aggressive or destructive behavior amusing.
I once worked with an idiot woman who, on rainy days, would bring her giant sopping wet dog into the office and encourage him to go “visit” every single one of us . . . so of course he would SHAKE all over everyone’s work and workspace, which she thought was just oh, so funny and charming.
And you have the gall to claim that a person who objects to this kind of idiocy is a “dog hater?”
Hear hear RubyJane. I have a dog, I have always had dogs (large breed), and every person I know who has ever hated or feared dogs have always mentioned how they wouldn’t hate/fear them if the were all as well-mannered as mine. But I still keep the dog away from dog haters/fearers unti *they* make the move to be introduced, because I am a *responsible* owner.
Since apartment-seekers could take the initiative on the pet premium, let’s hear from the OP and all the other pet owners out there:
—-How much extra rent would it be worth for you to be able to have your pet in an apartment?
theweedhog, you said your dog is “worth the food”. Is he worth the surcharge I took a stab at ($ 150 /mo)?
Also, has anyone here actually heard of a renter who tried offering to pay extra to bring in a pet?
I’m going to Vietnam next month and I plan to eat dog. I wonder what it will taste like?
“I’ll be right back honey, I’m gonna go wok the dog.”
I used to manage my mother’s rental units and allowed this couple to have their dog there – it turned into a fucking, COSTLY disaster – I had to rip up carpets reeking of piss and replace the chewed doors. I can’t blame landlords for not wanting their place destroyed and whiffing of dog urine. Don’t even get me started on the incessent barking because the owners would leave the poor animal for 10-12 hours at a time. I love dogs myself and realize it wasn’t the pup’s fault but that wasn’t much comfort to my wallet. A landlord only has the tenant’s word for it and, often, it’s a steaming hot cup of bullshit just to get the place. Again, the spirit of self-entitlement rears its stupid head.
i wonder what you taste like tweev…veal perhaps, lets eat you and find out
Internets, let me tell you about my first world problems.
PS kids > pets. For you see they are people, and not luxury items.
Wow, paingirl. …great comparison.
…and I suppose you won’t help me find an apartment for me and my calf?
Thank you for reminding the OP of that point, Swampdonkey.
Kids require much more love, guidance and support to even have a chance of survival in the world.
And when they grow up, they might even do something amazing like free other people from oppression or discover a cure for cancer. No pet will ever “become” anything more than the animal it already is, no matter how much is is loved.
Pets are ultimately “easy”—a dogs or cats only need food, shelter and kindness and they can thrive. Even though we love them and treat them as “family”, a cat or dog is not on par with a child.
When a pet dies, we mourn for a while, but the loss of a child can destroy an entire family or even a whole community.
People who are cruel to animals make me sick, but people who think pets are of equal value to children make my blood really boil.
I looked at an apartment that required an extra $30 to have a cat. I would have paid it too, if I had liked the apartment. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to charge extra to have a pet, as long as the landlord is upfront about it to the pet owner. It should be a cost the pet owner considers when making the decision to get a dog.
I thought it was great when the people rented the basement apartment below us and all of a sudden there was huge clumps of dogshit everywhere within leash range.
no i won’t but i am not adverse to eating people,just kiddin sort of
30 years ago, there was no such thing as “allergic” to the faint smell of tobacco smoke either, sure, some folks “didn’t like” it…but that didn’t carry enough weight…so suddenly they decided they were “allergic” (snicker)…because, after all, who’s gonna argue against a “medical condition”? I mean fussy people can be ignored, but “sick” people? Oh my!
And so, I’ve decided that I’m allergic to your stinky wet dog and spraying cats, and you need to keep them out of places where I live.
In fact, I would like to see a ban on city-dwellers owning dogs at all, especially large ones. Maybe it’s time for a blanket ban, no dogs within 15 Km of the city center, sounds about right…
People can be genuinely allergic to dogs and cats.
Allergies are a terrible affliction, and some of them are life-threatening.
There are some very real reasons why some allergies that were unknown a generation ago are showing up in the population now, althought the science still has a long way to go towards pinpointing all the answers.
Animal allergies are a perfectly good reason why a person might choose not to have the OP’s dog on their living premises.
Look harder! I found a great place for my dog and two cats for a decent price, and my landlord is awesome..
No Dogma- I have an 8yr old 70lb Rotti/Lab mix, and I rent (took the dog out of a bad situation years ago, cannot yet afford to buy a house). Whenever I’ve had to look for a new place I offer up front to take muttly to meet potential landlords and offer to pay an extra damage deposit, as well as references and yadda. I’ve never been taken up on the extra deposit, but I think the willingness to do so helps.
We’ve always lived in nice flats, in nice areas at reasonable rates. I don’t *feel* a horseshoe up my ass, so I always assume (just a little tiny bit) that angry people who can’t find a place have an underlying issue.
I gotta say, I don’t think animals (except service animals) should be allowed on public transit. If I was allergic to dogs, would I want to sit in a tin can bus with a big fuzzy poodle or the like? No.
As for the apartment thing, I don’t think they should be allowed in complexes because of the potential for noise. A lot of complex walls aren’t so thick, and listening to someone’s dog whine with separation anxiety for an hour after they leave for work is not pleasant and it’s also not controllable by the owner after they leave the premises. Those who own and rent out their house or flat can make a judgement call on that so long as they aren’t subjecting other non-dog-owning tenants to the potential noise.
look i gotta be honest…i don’t like very many people but my pets i do…i have a house(the bank does anyway)and a good fenced yard and having no allergies i would rather sit on a bus next to a big stinky dog than a big stinky human
How DO you resolve the seeing eye dog issue and the deathly allergy issue?
All service dogs must be shaved (and given hypo-allergenic sweaters, I guess)?
…seeing eye robots in the works?
It’s easy to resolve….we go back to what it was before the “me me me” decades of the 70’s and 80’s. if you have a “problem” with stinky dogs/tobacco/curry/people/cooking fires/burning leaves/perfume etc etc…than you have a problem.
Best stay indoors, maybe locked in the attic where you would have been 100 years ago if you made such a god-awful fuss about the everyday smells and odours of human civilization!
Jesus h Christ on a popsicle stick – I’ve never heard such crying over nothing…tobacco smells, booh ooh ooo..perfume smells…wahhhh
Has ANYONE here ever been anywhere besides the first world?!
You smell stuff, that’s what happens, christo!
What a bunch of sterile cotton-wool wrapped city-fied Starbucks-drinking, at “The Keg”-eatin'” CSI-watching, neptune theatre-goin’ minions…
good grief
Are you saying that about the blind, or the people whose airways can be choked off and cause death?
I think you missed my point.
I agree with you on perfume and most of the rest, but that’s not what I asked about.
People with deadly allergies need to be aware of their triggers and carry an epi pen and rescue inhaler for emergencies. They are responsible for preventing their exposure to allergens. Seeing eye dogs should be able to go where ever their owner does.
!00 years ago, people carried perfume/camphor scented hankies to cover the foul smells that assaulted their senses. And, if they swooned at a particularly bad smell, they used smelling salts (ammonium carbonate). Sensitive people can use what coroners use under their nose (when it is required that they must mingle with life outside their homes).
Frosty, did you write the song, Get Over It, for the Eagles? (Ha Ha)
You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin’ everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
I’d like to find your inner child and kick it’s little ass
Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin’ and cryin’ and pitchin’ a fit
Get over it, get over it
Giget and RubyJane…very insightful.
I live in an apartment. I have a cat. I have pet insurance. I love dogs too. But an apartment is no place to house a dog as some comments have stated.
I live next to an apartment complex that allow dogs and I never see the owners take them for a walk. Only to piss and shit. What a life for a dog.
BTW. My cat is content inside. Knowing she is safe. I entertain her and she, in return does the same for me.
Honestly, a dog does not belong in an apartment. I’m just getting a dog within the month, but only because we live in a flat and have a back yard, and we’re close to a park where the dog can run around. It’s really not fair to the animal, especially if you have a larger dog that requires exercise.
Let’s look at this another way. Most landlords in HRM, either private or corporate, run a business. They set prices for rentals by looking at the market in the area in which they have the property, and also by the feature set that the units themselves have (i.e.: laundry room, parking, power included, etc.). Now, Most landlords allow cats. That is because they are less likely to leave an apartment in an unreasonable condition. Even when they do, it’s easily recouped by the damage deposit. Let’s talk about dogs now. Allowing dogs would add a feature to the market. Most landlords do not advertise the fact that they allow dogs, and when they do, there’s usually clamouring for the apartment. In fact, I’d say there’s a high demand. That said, if everyone in HRM started allowing dogs in apartments, you would instantaneously find that demand would skyrocket, and seeing as supply of units isn’t being met with the market conditions that exist now, renatl prices would also skyrocket because of this shift. Not to mention too, with the likelihood that there would be more damage to the units themselves, a new standard would be set for damage deposits. Most places in HRM only ask for half a month’s rent for a damage deposit. In contrast, in Winnipeg (I cite this because I have personal experience) most apartments that allow dogs require 2 months rent up front, as a damage deposit. I’m uncertain for other markets, and really, I’m not up for the research.
Honestly though, as I mentioned, there are places that allow dogs in HRM. I’m lucky to be able to have such freedom. Even considering that, my lease still says that I’m not allowed to have a dog. However, after a discussion with my landlord, we both realised that I’m 1) in a year lease, 2) have a backyard and am close to a park and finally, 3) if the dogs damages the apartment beyond the damage deposit (which is potentially likely because I’m getting a Siberian Husky), I’ll be paying for the repairs or I’ll be heading to small claims court.
Fever you must be joking. I’ve been in many, many apartment units (and houses) and I have smelled both cats and dogs, urine etc. A security deposit doesn’t even come close to the cost of replacing a carpet. And it’s not really the animals fault but the owners who don’t give a shit. But the bottom line is it’s the landlord that has to pay to repair the damages. You may say take them to Small Claims Court but in reality when dealing with an individual, it’s more trouble than it’s worth, especially in the collection portion.
Perhaps I wasn’t clear BT, but that’s what I was getting at. Dogs can be terribly destructive to a small space, especially considering if you have some of the larger breeds. If every landlord in Halifax started being forced (as the OP wants) to house all types of animals in HRM, I think there would be a significant cost shift from affordable rent to nowhere near affordable in areas that were once considered affordable. This is mostly due to the fact that the property owners would need to recoup the cost of the irresponsible dog owners out that that would allow their dogs to do whatever the hell they wanted. I’d think rent per month would probably jump in the 20% range across the board, not to mention the property value effects from the supply/demand issue. You’d see a significant increase in damage deposits as well. I wouldn’t blame the landlords one bit either. People don’t realise understand half of the story when they go off on a tirade, like our OP here, who likes to make grandiose claims like “discrimination against animals”.
well friend,let’s just say you have a 150 pound dog. and want to rent a one b.r. apt., should i let you in? if you said yes, then you are out of you fucking mind, as there is not enough space sometimes for one human,or two, then this massive mutt. think long and hard on what i just said. and don’t go blaming building owners if you can’t get this dope/guard dog a place to live with you. and the more aggressive breeds are even harder to house.i don’t want no fucking kid killing mutt anywhere near my building. i would shoot the son bitch dead in a second. think on this long and fucking hard.
I have a dog and I live in a apt. My dog gets an hour walk and play at the field in the am, an hour walk in the afternoon, and an hour to 2 hour play in the evening. Regardless of where you live with your pet, if you properly train it and exercise it, it won’t be destructive. Also, I’ve always rented dog friendly apts so I don’t know why the OB has a hard time finding one.
Landlords are not aloud to charge extra damage deposits or charges for pets here like they are aloud to in other cities. I would pay an extra $150 for an apt that would allow my dog if I couldn’t find one and it was worth it.
Pets are allowed on metro if they’re in a kennel or a working dog.
Unfortunately in halifax it seems people don’t or don’t know how to properly train their animals. A lot of the misbehaved dogs I know have graduated from obience school. They don’t teach owners how to properly control their dogs. Its unfortunate really. Halifax, compared to other cities, is very dog intolerant but its getting better.
And for the person/people who said children shouldn’t be allowed in apts. Fuck you. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard and you’re an idiot.
Virgomom, I’m going to discuss your points backwards…
1) “the person/people who said children shouldn’t be allowed in apts”
I went back through all the posts, and unless I missed something, you’re talking about *my* post, and if this is the case, I suggest you *read* it this time:
“There are exceptions to every rule , but for the most part, an apartment is not a good place to raise a pet – *or* a kid. And often neither is welcome in an apartment complex because they don’t get the space they need to develop… “
Where do you get from that they shouldn’t be allowed?
Again, this is the only post I found that referred to children and apartments, if this was *not* what you were referring to, I withdraw the mental statements I am making right now about who the real idiot is…
2) “Unfortunately in halifax it seems people don’t or don’t know how to properly train their animals.”
Not just Halifax, but I totally agree. And the “obedience” classes people take their pets to (if they even *bother*) almost exclusively use food rewards, which is *not* a good way to train a dog – or a kid. 😉
Pretty sure the owner owns the building, and can tell you to go fuck off!
Read about a situation in Ottawa where city-dwellers are using a local cemetary as a free range for their mutts to run and shit and copulate and all things dog?
Personally, I don’t mind, I attach no special sanctity to a grave yard, and would prefer a viking funeral anyway…but apparently some folks are upset, especially old widows who have been told to fuck off by doggers who refuse to pick up the shit and replace the dug up flowers.
…and HKM, now that the anti-tobacco fascists have manage to persuade the world that even smoke diluted to a few parts per million in a bar is “harmful”, I find the stench of most pubs and bars almost un-bearable, especially the toilets. Where once the odour-neutralizing effect of tobacco smoke protected us, we are now subject to a potpourri of body odour, cheap cologne, and urine, as well as the stench of a mixture of different faeces originating from any number of cheap Halifax eateries…
..a simple orange held to the nose would do, methinks, but these days I prefer to socialize at private households, where the “gov’t”, and it’s stupid “laws” are not invited…
😉
Actually…
didn’t the anti-smoking campaign on second hand smoke start out trying to ban smoking in the home originally (kids and all that)? Which is why I was astounded when they changed up to actually drive smokers from outside into the home in the end.
It can be incredibly difficult to find an apartment in this city if you’re on a budget. I went back to school for a year (two years after I got my dog) and finding a place that was in my price range took about three months, which is the shortest amount of time it took me to find a place in this city, and I was about 10 days away from my lease being up when I found it. I wound up with a really great spot and a very reasonable landlord (as long as you clean up after the dog, it doesn’t damage anything and it doesn’t make undue noise no problem, but if the other tenants complain I would be asked to leave. Since my dog is quiet, well trained and I’m the person who if I see someone not picking up after their dog will chase them down and hand them a bag I have no problem with these conditions) but that wasn’t the case with my last apartment, and there are a lot of things I would like to do and can’t because of the irresponsible people who came before me.
I think there are ways that land lords can allow dogs and reward people for actually taking care/training their animals. My last place I paid an extra $300 deposit to have my dog, and I was more than willing to do it again. Technically that’s illegal in NS but at the time I was desperate for a place.
Another idea might be to use some of that money dog owners are required to pay for registration to set up some sort of training program, one that doesn’t just teach the dog but the owner too. If you complete it you could get some sort of qualification, which could be a prerequisite for getting an apartment. (just an idea, anyway, since none of that money seems to be doing much these days….)
As for those who think that an apartment is too small for a dog I think that you are over simplifying. What bread of dog is it? What is the dog like (you get a grayhound and when you’re not actively walking with it the thing will pretty much just lay on your couch all day weather you live in a bachelor or a mansion). How much exercise does your dog get? (Mine gets a minimum of 2 hrs a day, a bit in the morning, a bit at night and she does great). A house isn’t necessarily better. People talk about having a backyard for their dogs–if all you do is dump your dog in your yard and never take it for a walk, than that IS NOT ENOUGH. What a boring life for you animal. No matter what you still need to walk it, and seeing as most dogs are discouraged from running in the house having all that extra room doesn’t make much of a difference (esp if your dog is kennel trained).
Dogs are obviously not as important as a child, but mine is my friend, she has been with me for three years, I’m single and live alone so if I’m feeling down, she’s the first one there to cheer me up. She makes me get outside and meet new people, and it would be very upsetting if I ever had to give her up.
the commentwas for a poster to call herself a dog hater mary jane – not in all total people being dog haters – maybe university didn’t teach you to read plain concept reading skills but thats ok smoke more dope like me – love your dog keep it a good dog and your all good .
Dogs seems a bit like cars to me…especially in the city. A lot of people can benefit from them, but these people do not all need ones of their own. Most people don’t need cars 24-7, and it seems like many people can’t be bothered to care full-time for their pets.
I’d like to see a dog-share program.
Yanno no Dogma that would be a good idea. People who can’t have dogs could walk them for seniors or people with health problems so they wouldn’t have to worry about losing their friends because they can’t exercise them.
I rent an apartment and have 2 small dogs (under 10 lbs). We LOVE our landlord. He meets all dogs and spends time with them before letting us rent to see how they behave. We also gave a “Dog” lease. It states that if the dog causes any problems (barking, damage)that we must get rid of the dog but would still be responsible for the rent.
I can see why landlords won’t let dogs in their buildings and I respect that. You just have to do your homework. I can name 5 large buildings at the top of my head that will allow dogs in the city.
We pay a lot more in rent because we have dogs (over $1100/month)and we’re happy to do so because we get to keep our pets. We even approached other landlords, prior to the one we are in now, and asked if we could pay a larger damage deposit or more in rent.
This will be our last apartment because we’re now looking into moving into a house for our growing family.
Good luck! They’re out there.
Dogs on the bus? OP you are officially out to lunch. I take 11 buses a day with two kids and there is rarely any room for me with my BABY-I have had to wait many times at least 1/2 an hour for the next bus at the end of the day because it is literally too full for us. Oh well. I can only imagine the insanity of adding animals into the mix. That’s what taxi’s and feet are for-buses are for people. Additionally I have bused in major cities around Canada and have NEVER seen or heard of animals being permitted on the bus until yesterday when I saw a woman with a cat in a carrier here in Halifax.
I love my dog but she can stay home while we ride the bus! Let’s keep it that way.
“With the exception of Seeing-Eye Dogs and other trained working dogs, animals are not allowed on Metro Transit vehicles, unless properly restrained in a closed cage so the animal will not cause a disturbance or damage to the vehicle.”
SwampDonkey, that would be a good match-up.
Younger person/couple takes dog for the evening (walk) and maybe overnight. Elderly person/couple takes dog for day (when the young’ns are working).
It would. That would work for both sides, no matter who actually owned the dog.
So much for Joan Sinden’s claim that Halifax is a dog-friendly city! Never lived anywhere that was so hostile to dogs.
Don’t people know that in Europe dogs are welcome not only on transit but in restaurants and shops, without anybody getting bent out of shape? And in parks, no problem being off-leash without a lot of regulations and fuss? Somehow, it works out just fine.
But here– Oh, god forbid!!!
So much for Joan Sinden’s claim that Halifax is a dog-friendly city! Never lived anywhere that was so hostile to dogs.
Don’t people know that in Europe dogs are welcome not only on transit but in restaurants and shops? And in parks, no problem being off-leash without a lot of regulations and fuss? Somehow, it works out just fine.
But here– Oh, god forbid!!!
So much for Joan Sinden’s claim that Halifax is a dog-friendly city! Never lived anywhere that was so hostile to dogs.
Don’t people know that in Europe dogs are welcome not only on transit but in restaurants and shops? And in parks, no problem being off-leash without a lot of regulations and fuss? Somehow, it works out just fine.
But here– Oh, god forbid!!!
If there is a Canadian tenants rights law as the OG says, what is the problem?