If you remember anything about pioneering indie rockers
Dinosaur Jr., you’ll recall the fiery relationship between bassist Lou
Barlow and guitarist J Mascis as much as the sheer volume and intensity
of the band.

So if Barlow admits to being a perennial shit disturber, you might
expect him to say as much. Still, four years after rejoining Dinosaur,
two years after Beyond—their successful reunion record—and
this year’s strong follow-up, Farm, you’d think most of the hard
stuff would be over by now.

“Nah, it’s still work. I’m not really comfortable being comfortable.
So I have to constantly sort of…” Barlow pauses to find the right
phrase, “I always find ways to ramp up the tension in anything that I
do.”

He protests too much. Barlow sounds so positive on the phone from
his Los Angeles home a week before the band’s North American tour
starts.

Take the recording of Farm. Barlow bitched that they recorded
it too fast, that there were “negotiations” and “tensions” throughout,
but, in retrospect, he says the brisk creative process “made us a lot
stronger on the record. Even though it was rushed, it really brought
out this immediacy in J’s riffs and melodies. When I listen to it now I
say, ‘OK, that makes a whole lot of sense.'”

“We actually kinda nailed it,” he says, warming up to the idea.

Maybe it’s the abdication of creative control that seems attractive to
Barlow now, where it might have grated in the past. Playing bass in
Dinosaur Jr. feels liberating compared to the responsibility of solo
projects like Sebadoh. When he plays with Murph and Mascis, Barlow
says, “None of that shit matters. It’s this full-on blast.”

Pete Townshend and John Entwistle played to Keith Moon’s drum style
in The Who, he tells me, and he and Murph play to Mascis in the same
way. It’s this support that makes them sound so big, and this dynamic
doesn’t translate to any other group Barlow’s played in.

“The way that I play [in Dinosaur Jr.], feels so natural and cool to
me, I really feel like”—he breaks into an embarrassed laugh—“this
sounds totally cheesy, I can’t even say it, but I feel kinda ‘cool.’
Like when I was a kid, you’d see film of old bands playing and you’d
think, ‘God, that looks really cool.’ I know with Dinosaur, that’s my
cool thing. It’s this thing where what I am doing is really second
nature. It feels so good and natural.”

Barlow even sounds magnanimous when he talks of his former bugbear.
Despite publicly criticizing the lyrics on Farm, he defends the
quality of Mascis’ wordplay when it’s suggested that they’re
throwaway.

“I really believe that on the early Dinosaur records, his lyrics are
amazing. They’re personal, full of amazing metaphors. He was really on
fire. He was not only the musical architect, he was also writing these
lyrics that were perfectly evocative of the time and really
literate.”

And why not, even if the compliment is inadvertently backhanded? His
own musical output is leonine, arguably equal to or more influential
than Mascis’s since their 1989 split. It also rachets up the band’s
pressure to perform.

Perhaps it’s an unfair question to ask (who can ever have a firm
perspective on their own cultural relevance), but how does he think his
generation is aging musically compared its elders?

Better, Barlow says. He compares the early progenitors of rock to
Promethean discoverers of electricity who didn’t know what they had
harnessed or how to recapture it after the fact. Barlow says the
hardcore generation had more distance from the fire, so they understand
it better.

“As long as we maintain the understanding of what that energy is,
and where it comes from and also how important the texture is to it,
that I think somehow we’re able to age better.”

That awareness might also explain why Barlow ratchets up the
emotional tension in all his projects: to stay close to that original
energy. Even if he is otherwise a pretty happy guy.

Andy Murdoch is an awesome guy.

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  1. Fucking awesome set at the Virgin Festival!! Jay was great but totally impressed with Lou!! A great bass player!!!

  2. Great show!!!!! Love some of the old stuff they played. Music was great but the crowd was kind of lame! Guess that happens when you open a free show. I was right in the mix and no one really even knew most of the bands

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