Cancelled Again

Keep it up you old old uptight fuckwads, you’re just driving the young people out of this city. This was just the straw that broke the camels back for me. Being a young person here, if you’re not a student and decided to join the work force can be very frustrating. Especially if you’re more of an urban music fan. Suckster, I’d bet my life savings that you’ve never taken the time to listen to a rap song (listened to, not just heard) in full, much less a whole album. What’s on the radio and TV is not an accurate representation of all of rap/hip hop. That’s just the modern day minstrel show that suburban white people eat right up, that exists not because there is a lack of talented artists who want to make powerful, enlightened, artistic music, but because rich white guys in suits who work for large corporate entities want to protect said entities interests. Go listen to a Mos Def or Lupe Faisco or even a Jay-Z or Kanye album and tell me they don’t talk about important relevent issues that effect a lot of people. A lot of people whose voices wouldn’t be heard had hip hop never came along. They do not “ramble on about sweet fuck all” as you put it. Some of them do, yes. There’s no talent hacks in every genre and many of them are popular. Your life really must suck if you’re that ignorant and closed minded.
I just find being my age and having my interests you don’t fit in anywhere. I really feel like there’s no where for people with my interests to go. I don’t want to party with the teenagers at the dome and I don’t like the 30 something Irish pub scene. So I’m moving! You wonder why all the kids who grow up here fucking leave, there’s nothing here for us, and when we speak up about it we’re mocked by old tight asses like yourselves. Go listen to Journey and fuck off.

And I just had to come back to say this:

I know I’m not going to convert any of you into rap fans, nor am I trying to, but why can’t you just like what you like? Why trash something you don’t like and assert that only idiots would enjoy it? I don’t enjoy the music they play at any of the bars/clubs here for the most part, so I just don’t go. I don’t chastise other people for having different tastes.
I’m not a modern art fan but I’m not going to say that whoever likes to go to art galleries is a moron or that I could do better with a paint brush and bucket of feces. They get it, I don’t. How is that so hard to understand?
Why can’t you acknowledge that there are plenty of people who enjoy things that you don’t, and it sucks for them when they see acts from their parents generation having more success here than current acts that they enjoy and identify with?
Coming from a 24 year old hip hop fan (you know, us rowdy, violent, anti-social criminal types) GROW THE FUCK UP!

Exactly Foot, it just sucks not knowing, it’s hit or miss. I’d rather live on the other side of that border where I don’t have to worry about it.
And please no one mention free health care. I work in payroll and look at American’s paychecks and Canadian’s pay checks every day. This shit ain’t free and it ain’t all that great. If you have a job in the states you pay for your own coverage and still come away with a lot more than someone living in Nova Scotia making the same amount of money. We are taxed to death here. Not to mention everything’s cheaper and they don’t give .15 on every dollar they spend to the government. Canada really isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and the media makes the States seem way crazier/scarier than it is. People in New York City were friendly as can be, the women were a lot less prudish. My room mate recently took a trip to Boston and reported the same. Just FYI.
I don’t wanna sound like I’m trashing Canada I’m just not as Anti-American as most of us. I think it’d be a lot more fun to live there, of course that depends where. I’d rather live here than East Bumblefuck, Virginia or Nowhere, Ohio. But they have some amazing cities and aren’t all a bunch of self centered snobs as many Canadians would have you believe.

AND ONE MORE THING!! I’m sorry guys I know I’m long winded. But when people say that they themselves could do better than XYZ platinum selling artist whether it be rap or pop or rock.
THAN WHY AREN’T YOU THE ONE ON STAGE GETTING PAID MILLIONS TO DO WHAT YOU LOVE. YOU MUST BE IN THE WRONG BUSINESS!
Hip hop has a term for you it’s “hater”

Z, agreed. That’s why I’m leaving. Did you really have to put quotations around the word “music”?
The real question is how long a “city” (note my obnoxiousness) with such a huge student population which somehow still has an average age of 38.8 (it was me who posted that) can survive. What’s this place gonna look like in 20 years if all the young people get fed up and leave? Enjoy, geezers.

Fine, TTFN, I don’t enjoy scream metal either but I have better things to do with my time than criticize what other people like. A couple thousand ppls bought tickets to this show to see this rapper who yes, has baggy jeans, tattoos and uses hand gestures, (who has some interesting things to say, BTW if you take the time to listen) and were disappointed that it got canceled. He does fit your stereotype somewhat but not every hip hop artist does.

The rapper is Game, of Compton California, formerly signed to 50 Cent’s G Unit Records. Most noted for hits such as “This is How We Do” and “Hate it or Love it” both featuring 50 Cent and more recently “My Life” with Lil Wayne. He definitely falls under the Gangsta Rap sub genre.

There is a demand here for hip hop, the Redman and Method Man show at the Palace had that place the most packed I’ve ever seen it.
The Nas show at the Cunard Centre was also a huge turnout, even Naughty By Nature (of early 1990s fame) packed the Paragon or whatever that place is called now (used to be the marquee).
Halifax is also home to Canada’s biggest rapper, Classified, aside from Drake who makes pop/RnB music with a touch of hip hop.
The demand isn’t the problem.

Sucks,

When the backstreet boys came here, multiple times, I could hear them from my parent’s house in Dartmouth. People drive around blasting all kinds of shitty music so I’ll blast my rap music out of my 2009 Subaru that I bought brand fucking new all I want. I don’t drive a shit box but thanks, wasn’t sure if you were a stereotyping douche bag, now I know. I don’t wanna hear Kiss or Paul McCartney necessarily, but I respect those who purchase a ticket’s pay to have a good time, and wish them well, it’s just not my bag.

Jay-Z has 13 fucking grammies. He’s not an artist? You are stupid. Poets have been around for centuries, why is it that when they do it over a beat and talk about certain things that they are “a bunch of fucking jerking half assed morons, who think that they are an artist of some sort” They are artists and art is subjective and just because you don’t like it or what it represents doesn’t make that any less true.
I should write another bitch about people like you who have to trash and discredit everything they don’t like. Other people exist too and surprise they have different tastes than you. Why do hip hop fans constantly have to defend it? Change the station if you don’t like it and leave us alone.

I’m an idiot because I like loud rap music? Na man I’m actually an intelligent hard working respectful guy. You probably don’t talk to people like that in the real world, if you did your face would be the one meeting Mr. Baseball bat. You are such a fuckin hypocrite threatening to smash out my windows because you don’t like my music. And you accuse of hip hop of inciting violence? Man you are confused. Some rap/hip hop calms, there are hundreds of songs I can kick back and unwind to that I find very relaxing, and you might too if you’d pull your head out of your ass and give it a fair listen. Ever heard the songs “Dear Mama” or “Changes” by 2Pac? How bout “Project Windows” or “Life’s a Bitch” by Nas? Tell me that’s not uplifting and calming music.
“Music calms, that shit incites” That shows just how little you know about music. That’s like saying only dramas are actual films, and comedies, thrillers and action movies are not. Basically you’re saying that music that YOU don’t find calming music.
Not all music has to calm. I agree with you, I like calm music that I can relax to over the more upbeat amp’d up stuff but sometimes I like that other stuff too. I don’t enjoy Korn very much but they do make music, and it ain’t the calming sort.
Why can’t you just say “I don’t like it and would rather not hear it. I prefer Mozart”?
Your generalizations show that you have zero idea about what you are talking about. If you took the time to listen to a variety of hip hop and gave it a non bias ear you might actually like some of it. Even if you don’t you still would have to acknowledge that writing good songs, whatever the genre takes a ton of talent dedication and artistry. Sure hip hop has its no talent bullshit acts, just like every genre of music. The ignorant shit is popular with the young’ns because they are stupider than ever. Rap doesn’t create that it simply reflects that. It reflects a problem in our society. If we were raising our kids right they wouldn’t identify with ignorance. You probably blame your mirror for being ugly. Go fuck yourself

melectric
I live in Dartmouth because I want to, I grew up here and it’s not that I can’t afford to live in Halifax, I just don’t feel it’s worth it. I would sell my car if I moved, or bring someone with me as a roomate. If I didn’t have a car payment I could afford to live pretty much anywhere in HRM on my own, but I don’t like living alone so I have a good friend of mine as a roommate. All my friends also live in my neighborhood. I don’t wanna live in Halifax, I don’t really like it, and it’s more than I want to pay. Also all my friends would be on the other side of the bridge. I’d gladly pay that much and leave my friends to live in Montreal though.

I wouldn’t need a car if I lived in a bigger city with better transit systems. It also costs way less to fly in the US. The main reason I bought my car was for road trips, so I wouldn’t need it if all the sudden plane tickets were much cheaper. So I’m working on finding a job there, I still have a full year on my apt lease, but yesterday I just decided I’m thru bitching about this place, I’m just gonna get outta here. I tried to flee to Montreal at 18 but my lack of job skills kinda forced me back home. Now that I’m older and have more job skills I’m gonna try it again, maybe Montreal, Toronto, Boston, NY, Vancouver, anywhere but here basically.
Yeah Halifax is a better place to live in than Dartmouth but not $600 bucks a month better. For that price I’ll move to another city that suits me better.

lol Ivan seems to be the comedic relief for those of us who like to have heated debates. I appreciated ur quip Ivan, even if the irony was lost on some of these ppls.

Thanks TTFN, at least some of us are reasonable around here. I mean I can get down to music from the 70s 80s, 60s whatever. I’m a big Bob Marley and Stevie Wonder fan, for example. I enjoy the occasional Beatles track. I just don’t see how people can hear something and say “that’s not music” why can’t they just say “turn that shit off, I don’t like it” I do it all the time. A lotta people like what’s on c100 for example. That sappy “i love you so much I’m so lonely without you Im nothing without you” shit. I prefer hip hop because it more accurately portrays (and yes, maybe has influenced) my outlook on life. My ex gf loved the radio, I didn’t but I’m not an idiot, I can see why people identify with it. Just not my cup of tea.
I know that peoples conceptions of hip hop are not without merit. Much of it is ignorant and violent and glorifies violence and ignorance, but that goes for all music. Much of what’s on the airwaves today, not just rap, glorifies materialism and hedonism. That’s a reflection of the materialistic, sexist, hedonistic world/society we live in. This shit wouldn’t get play if people weren’t supporting it. Music isn’t the problem, we are.
There are plenty of artists who pour their heart and soul into rap music and it can be quite beautiful. Listen to Kanye West’s “Good Morning” or “Dark Fantasy” and tell me it’s not immaculately produced/executed, strong emotion evoking beautiful music. Maybe you’ll disagree with me, that’s what makes it art.
I love how people want to attack rap when it had nothing to do with the bitch. The bitch was about a show being canceled due to shitty planning. I wonder how the responses would have been had I not mentioned that it was a hip hop show that got canceled. smh

Exactly Ivan,
I just could never picture myself saying “you are stupid because you have different music tastes than me” in so many words. To each their own.

To the copy and paste fanatic, It’s ok, buddy, I’m grown, I can handle my own, dealt with plenty of assholes in the real world so one suckster online is no problem. I suggest you invest your energy in something more productive.

Thank you wheelip, if I ever come to one of the summits I’m gonna blast my music and see if SUCKSTER is a man of his word and tries to break my windows LOL. fuckin telephone tough guy.

the turn table and sampler/sequencer (MPC) are definitely instruments. They are difficult to play and master, have you ever tried it? have any of you critics who claim it takes no talent or effort ever tried to rap or write a rap? or make a beat? freestyle? then fuck off.
And so what if they dont play instruments or sing. Not all of us can afford piano lessons or choir growing up, we find other musical yes MUSICAL, ways to express ourselves. I acknowledge that many rappers are probably assholes. although i suspect that the ones you’ve dealt with are amateurs i’ve never heard of. care to drop some names? They are artists/entertainers. Dont get me wrong I dont like a lot of the stuff out these days but hip hop is great music and i really dont care who says otherwise, ive seen some great shows and seen how music is made and made it myself! and done shows myself in which i conducted myself professionally. IT TAKES TALENT, DEDICATION, HARD WORK, SUPREME CONFIDENCE/SELF ESTEEM, GUTS, AND YES TRUE MUSICIANSHIP TO MAKE IT IN THE RAP BUSINESS!!!!! YOU’D PROBABLY ALL GET EATEN ALIVE! A MILLION MOTHERFUCKERS CAN SLAM OUT THREE CHORDS ON A FUCKING POS GUITAR AND SCREAM 5 WORDS INTO A MIC FOR 5 MINUTES TOO!!!!! You’ll notice that’s the first time I’ve attacked or criticized any genre of music. the point is you can’t convince me that rap doesnt take talent and hard work because i’ve fucking done it. i’ve also seen many many people try and fail. people who think they have what it takes and dont. hip hop is in high demand around here and because of people like you who stereotype us all on here it is constantly stifled and pigeon holed. Jesus fucking christ I’m mad now. Mention the words hip hop in this fucking town you might as well go play in traffic. good night fellas

i dont like my neighbors music either sucks, whats your point? are we done here? get a life

Wow sucks, wow. cocktail of dope.. I’m actually at work, sober as a judge making about 45 bucks an hour. Your stereotypes are fucking lame, as are you. You call me boy again we’re gonna have some real problems.

You didn’t threaten to smash my windows out, no, but you said or implied that it would be cool if someone did and that they would be somehow justified in doing it because I play my music too loud.
I’m defending myself against your attacks on the music and culture that I love and that helped me find my way into who I am today. At no point did I attack you on a personal level until you started crossing lines. You’re the one who attacked me along with millions of hip hop fans across the globe, calling us brain dead, morons an a bunch of other names. You just have to get the last word in don’t you? again please go kill yourself right as soon possible, the world would be better without people like you.

I just popped in the new Fabolous mixtape, first line on it sums up my feelings about LS pretty well I couldn’t resist posting it.

“I’m old enough to know better, young enough to not give a fuck
rather hold my head high n die, than live and duck
if you’re cool being taken down or given up, your lifestyle’s a blowjob, the way your livin’ sucks”

wow………………

This guy just never ceases to amaze me.

THAT’S EXACTLY ALL I’VE BEEN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO YOU SINCE YESTERDAY YOU UNBELIEVABLY THICK DENSE PERSON.
You like what you like I like what I like. So we agree finally, I guess. It’s one thing to rag on something but when you say “no one in their right mind” would like something and call people names like stupid or brain dead, expect people to defend themselves. I never threatened you either for the record, I just opined that you wouldn’t talk to me like this in person, and if you did that I wouldn’t tolerate it. I have a feeling you’ll be meeting with Mr. baseball bat long before I will. Bye LS.

Fuck that. This so called man personally insulted me, talked down to me and now wants to play victim. I never threatened anyone I just have a feeling that sooner or later someone is going to put their hands on him if he acts this way when he interacts with people in the real world. The guy called me an idiot, brain dead and says I have a bad attitude, all because I stand up for myself when he invited himself into my bitch to call me stupid for having a certain musical taste. You’re only fooling yourself sucks, I suggest if we ever meet in person you take a quite different tone with me, it would be for the better.

PE show would be great Tron, I was upset I missed the Pete Rock performance last September in Halifax. Although I couldn’t lose too much sleep over it because I was going to NY to see that epic Jay-Z n Eminem show at Yankee Stadium. Did that Pete Rock show end up happening? Anyone catch it? Glad my rants were not completely in vain, Anglo. I’ll be the first to admit that there’s a lot of crap to sift through when it comes to rap/hip hop. Much of it complete sellout bullshit, but I really believe that applies to all music. Artistic/personal integrity is rare these days period, not just in hip hop. Another thing one has to realize is many rapper really aren’t rappers or artists, and they’ll be the first to tell you, they’re criminals laundering money through music. They don’t care about lyrics, artistry or anything but making (or washing) a quick buck. You can’t take that as an accurate representation of all of hip hop.
This creates a whole new legion of so called artists who just take the superficial side of the art form and run with it. Kinda like this Rebecca Black kid. She thought that a professional video and played out gimmicks in said video would make her a star over night (it did, but because it was so bad) She didn’t realize that there’s more to making good music and getting it out there to the masses than having a flashy, expensive video and a you tube account. She just identified with the superficial aspect of popular music, not with the more delicate emotional side of it. The problem is fans are getting used to this where we used to call bullshit.

lol I just relived this day in my mind reading all these posts, good post JR. I wonder if your friend would be interested in a jam session? I rap, and I dare say I’m pretty gosh darn good. There’s not too many hip hoppers in Hali, gotta network. Tell him add me on facebook or twitter if he’s interested. Tom Leger or @TommyJules902