To all the Law students who think they are better than everyone else, you’re not. I will continue to go to “your” library because I like it better, it’s less distracting because there are NO good looking people. I pay tuition just like you do and therefore can go to whatever building on campus I like. I hope every LTMLLS (less than mediocre looking law student) reads this.
As for the evil man who stalks the library for drinks and food, fuck off. What the fuck is the difference between a travel mug and to go cup? NOTHING. Maybe if you try being nicer about it people will respect the rules. —SNAIL (Student not actually in law)
This article appears in Dec 2-8, 2010.
Wait until they actually become lawyers…>; )
Aaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha great bitch!!!
I dated a law student once.
Trust me – they don’t all ‘suck’.
lol CE
big deal, i go to that same librery and for different reasons. i have in the past and will do so in future. not for the same reasons you do tho.
mine is to actually look up some case laws, and a few corperate laws that are either outdated or just wrong.
Hi SNAIL,
Maybe you should shut the fuck up and obey the other rules when you’re actually in the law library and no one would give a shit whether you’re there. I’d also like to apologize profusely on behalf of whatever “less than mediocre looking law student” rejected you. Clearly you’re still hurt or else you wouldn’t have felt the need to validate yourself by making such generalizations. Fear not, there are pills AND therapists for that.
– Adoring reader.
Oh snap. OP just got told. http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/2941680…
Dear SNAIL,
Polite and respectful SNAILS are welcome at the law library.
As for the rest of the SNAILS out there, maybe if you shut the fuck up so that people could study, and stopped loudly eating greasy snack food and wiping your dirty little SNAIL hands on the desks, then the librarians wouldn’t have to pester you and you would be less abhorred by the resident student populace.
The reason you like our library better is because it’s clean and quiet, yet you are too heathen to keep it that way. Equating wanting a clean and quiet study environment to a law-related superiority complex is a ridiculous assertion indicating a profound lack of intelligence, which is probably why you didn’t get into law school in the first place.
And FYI the difference between a travel mug and a to-go cup is that (a) to-go cups are environmentally unsound, which (b) necessitates throwing to-go cups in the garbage, making the place smelly and attracting bugs and SNAILS.
If you can’t follow the rules, go desecrate your own library.
-EGLLS (Extremely Good Looking Law Student)
I am a law student.
As someone who doesn’t use the library much, I can’t say this issue bothers me much.
What I’m disappointed about here is how we future professionals are resorting so quickly to name-calling and foul language in a public forum. Aren’t we supposed to be learning how to resolve conflict, not escalate it? Your point is entirely lost when you use inflammatory tactics such as these.
Have a little dignity. Just because one person is uncivil to you doesn’t mean you need to plunge immediately to their level.
Dear SNAILS,
I agree with Adoring and EGLLS. The Law Library is quiet and clean because the Law Students respect the rules. Just because you pay tuition does NOT make you entitled to use any building on campus as your own personal social space and dumping ground. Take a good look at the tuition fees you, an undergrad, pay, versus what the Law Students are paying. Try going into the Computer Science building after midnight and you will also learn that just because you are a student at the university, that does not guarantee you access to whatever space you would like. Be thankful that you are still given access to quiet study places in the Law Library at all – at many universities, you wouldn’t be allowed in, especially during exam time. The reason Law Students bitch at you is because you are loud, disruptive, annoying, and can’t respect the rules put in place.
As a side issue, the major difference between a to-go cup and a travel mug is also the degree of spill-proofing. Many of the texts in the Law Library are extremely valuable, difficult to replace, and necessary for people to actually do their work. Food is not allowed in order to keep vermin out of the space and to keep them from wreaking havoc on those same valuable texts. There is a conveniently located atrium directly outside the Law Library, with places to sit, tables, and garbage cans, if you feel you cannot wait until you get back to your own home to eat.
Maybe the reason you feel so threatened by Law students and the Law Library actually enforcing rules is because, deep down, you only wish you could be like us.
— LAWl’ing at your stupidity
OB, do you wear a sign saying you’re NOT a law student? If not, who would notice or give a fuck. I see these students in your future as they plead you as paranoid in court.
cold, are you really that good.
Hey SNAIL,
Thank Adoring, EGLLS, and associates. I am a law student. I went through undergrad. I knew, right out of high school, I did not in fact have the right to go into whatever I felt like, just because I paid for it.
On that reasoning, why don’t you go down and “study” in your professor’s office. I am sure that, because you pay tuition, your professor would be happy to let you sit with your I-pod and gossip about the latest goings on in your intro to whatever class. Your aberrant chatter would probably be welcome – remind the professor about why he should be grateful to you, the tuition paying freshman, because without you, obviously, he would have no reason to teach. He could learn all about the little events in yours and your friend’s lives, which you feel the need to broadcast to anyone within shouting range.
Your grasp of rights indicates your need for legal counsel. This shows a real difference in your education from that of law students. Lines are drawn according to difference. The law library is for law students and those interested in legal answers. Your admission and reasoning states you are not a law student, and are not interested in legal answers.
Two observations to help you adjust to the real world:
1.) You are not special, and no-one cares about what you think
2.) Words MEAN something – a library is not a cafeteria, you are not a law student.
Solution to help you with your problems – read a freaking book, allow it to change your mind, you might start to grow up. The world will change it for you if you don’t adapt your adolescent outlook.
Law Student.
I agree with furrybeaver82… but as someone with extensive experience in that library I find this bitch halaaarious.
LS:
I would hasten to note that nothing is gained by making arguments based on faulty and poorly thought out logic.
1) Like it or not, law students don’t own the library. Just as we have the right to use other libraries, every Dal student has the right to use the James Dunn Law Library. Interest in the law has nothing to do with using this facility. If you wish to create a law student-only workspace, I would recommend you contact the Law Students’ Society, who may (or may not) make the appropriate petitions on your behalf. Alternatively, you could seek this solution from the university administration yourself. As a person with a legal education, you should be well-equipped to pursue such a venture.
2) Also, a library is a categorically different space than a professor’s office. A professor is entitled to set office hours and exclude students from their office, because it is a private space. A library is meant to be a public space: excluding people from a library actually runs contrary to its purpose. As a law student, I am concerned that you did not identify this flaw in your reasoning, given that the public space/private space distinction is covered in at least two compulsory courses at the Schulich School of Law.
3) Telling a non-law student that they are not special and nobody cares what they think is both ironic and appalling. It is ironic because this same complaint is at the root of the initial post that spawned this thread, and demonstrates exactly the kind of superiority complex that plagues many students at the law school. It is appalling because you will be serving the public in the future, and you should appreciate that while someone’s complaint is crudely and offensively written, they are simply venting their frustration. Condescending comments don’t help.
Hi FB,
Much obliged to your cool head. Soft hearts, however, have little chance of survival in the world. I take your points as they are raised:
1.) Surely using the library is limited to library appropriate uses. The law library is therefore specific – it embraces those here to study the law. I agree, those adults able to use the library in a manner consistent with the practice and habits of others who are dedicated to this primary function are welcome. They do not frustrate its purpose. Grease and disruptions do. Inclusive attitudes must be defined by the purposes of the venue – just as free expression is limited by the purpose and scope of the platform.
2.) I was taking aim at the particulars of SNAIL’s reasons. To quote: “I pay tuition just like you do and therefore can go to whatever building on campus I like.” The analogy to a professor’s office is appropriate. I would appreciate you read the comment that started the response, before accusing the response of being illogical, and resorting to puerile comments on potential lacunae in my legal education. Obviously, the above quotation misses the division of public and private – it states “whatever building” and does not go into the purposes of compartments within the building. Purposes are relevant for determining the limits of a place’s use.
3.) Indeed, I agree that telling a non-law student that they are not special and no-one cares would be appalling if I limited that judgment to that person as a member of a class. Allow me to clarify – no-one cares about anything anyone says in this world, unless they have something to gain, or something to loose thereby. This is a truth of the world in general and the profession in particular. In the future, I will act as an advocate for people who have something to gain or loose – thus, I will be paid to care. Otherwise, I cannot give a whit – indeed I must not, or enter into a conflict. If I did, and we did as a profession, maybe it would be a better world – free legal services for all. But that is not the case, and we must live in this broken world as it exists.
Yours very truly,
LS
Here’s the thing with the law library: You say you like it because it is less distracting, well there’s a reason for that. There aren’t people eating their lunches loudly all over, gossiping inanely about whatever show involving dancing celebrities was on last night, or mopping up their spilt double-shot-soy-frappa-i-don’t-care. You want to use the library? Fine. Then obey the rules. Don’t like the rules? Killam is that way.
As for the “mean guy”? He’s a librarian doing his job, and is likely sick of having to remind every second student who comes through the door with no respect for the study space about the “no food rule” when there’s a big damn sign in the foyer as you walk in. You got in to university, we assume you can read.
Oh.. And just to be clear, you pay about half the tuition we pay. That and 100% finals gives us the right to be a bit on edge come exam time.
Wow, some very well thought out and articulate posts. I was wondering why annie hasen’t put her 2 cents in, but she probably realized that she’d get ass-wooped.
And what furrybeaver said.
….aaaaaand the law students begin to weigh in.
Cue the debate and the counter-debate.
(Posted by a law student from the law library).
SNAILS, don’t listen to tall these haters. You can study in our library… as long as you’re hot.
SNAILS, don’t listen to all these haters. You can study in our library… as long as you’re hot.
I study at the Kellogg and there are signs saying “No Food, No Uncovered Beverage Containers”. I think that’s more fair than saying “travel mugs only”, but hey.. I’m just a nursing student.
And what bvlm said.
Another thread dominated by sock puppets.
Quite frankly, I’m not sure why anybody would find the law library preferable. The men’s bathroom smells like a Calcutta slum, there are mice everywhere and there are fewer skanky undergrads to ogle.
I am a law student.
Personally, I think “studying” at the library is about as egotistical as going to the gym. That is to say, 90% of those who do it, are doing it so that they can be seen doing it, and/or so they can talk about having done it. For an environment that frowns upon talking, the library is a remarkably “social”, rather than academic or practical study destination.
Frankly, the library has uncomfortable seating, awkward climate control, restrictive food policies, and an eerie collection of peers trying to avoid eye contact like the plague. If you truly find that a “better” environment to study in than your home, then your home really sucks.
Needless to say, I don’t study at the law library. Thus, I have no perspective on the extent to which you (SNAILS) are disruptive.
However, you do pay tuition…..and what is it? $5,000 a year?
We pay over $13,000 a year in law.
So on that basis alone I say “suck it up little kiddies”. When undergrads start shelling out over twice what you (or your parents) are paying now, then you can make a case for using our nicer facilities. By then, hopefully, you’ll also have mastered the art of applying deodorant, NOT applying cheap cologne, and operating grown-up “travel mugs”. If so, we’d be glad to have you.
Until then, enjoy Killam.
Sincerely,
A law student who thinks our library should just be converted into a youth hostel, and the books sold to pay for better wifi reception.
I’m not trying to be a bleeding heart, I’m just stating the facts as I see them. I think the initial post raises a valid point (albeit poorly and offensively worded.) I’d like to apologize upfront for being accusatory and offensive (duly noting the irony in my being offensive after having made a previous call for civility.) Again, as the points are raised:
1) Agreed. The library is limited to library appropriate uses. That means people must follow the rules, and not eat, drink, make loud noises, etc. These rules do not include ‘be a law student’ or even ‘be studying the law’. The library is meant as a place for quiet study area for all, not just a privileged subset of the student population. The issue as I understand it is with those who break library rules, not all non-law students.
2) As you quoted, the non-law student claimed he could go into “whatever building on campus.” Entering the building in which the professor’s office is located is not the same as entering the professor’s office itself. I would still object to your use of the analogy because while the office is unquestionably a private space, the building is ostensibly not – so he/she may have a point. All I saw in this comment was that he was free to use whatever facillities are open to Dalhousie students unless he/she is told otherwise by university authorities. There has been no such rule made, so he/she is free to come and go, provided the rules on eating,drinking and speaking loudly are followed.
3) Well, that’s a very depressing philosophy, and one that I do not subscribe to. I apologize for having misconstrued your statement as an affront to the non-law student. I will make every effort to read things more carefully next time.
On a side note, I do appreciate your civil tone. Thank you for imparting civility into this debate.
Undergrads are paying less than half the tuition we (law students) are. If you can’t respect OUR rules in OUR school, then get the fuck out. You’re not welcome. We are better and smarter than you…it’s not just that we THINK we are.
Hi FB,
Clearly, we are both human. I reacted to the vitriol in the initial post, though I admit I should have been prepared for offensive non-sense when I read “Love the way we Bitch.” I shall attempt to act instead of react in the future.
To the first two points, I see it now as a debate over minutiae that are covered within what I perceive as an agreed premise – the purpose of a place governs its appropriate use. Similarly, the above quotation may or may not be making a distinction between public and private. Divergence our view stems from weight and vector of our respective interpretations. Unless you would like to continue hashing this out on this forum, I consider the matter satisfactorily resolved.
As for my outlook – yes, it is depressing. I am working on getting my idealism back. I lost it somewhere between orientation week and third year. It will take time to recover, if at all, but the experience has left me with very little in which to place faith. Be that as it may, such things are still matters individual perspective, and hardly a topic for vigorous and principled debate. I am open to a change in perspective, but it will take some convincing.
Thank you for persevering in the discussion, you have my respect and gratitude.
LS
“I go to “your” library because I like it better, it’s less distracting because there are NO good looking people”
seems like you have given this a lot of thought.
We might think we’re better than everyone else, but at least we’re not shallow enough to pick our study space based on how many “good looking people” we can ogle.
Don’t worry folks, once these law students graduate and hit the real world their attitude will cange once they article with a few firms and get all the shit jobs. And if they go into criminal or family law and cop that attitude, the judges will make mincemeat out of them. Hell, in Tenancy Hearings and Small Claims Courts, I’ve made attorneys look like idiots. They ain’t special, they just think they are. BTW there is one prof you guys have is excellent. You’d do good to emulate her.
Ain’t is not a word. You do know that, right?
Is there anyone in the library right now not reading this? More interesting than writing a major paper…
…and shitloads funnier than Montrealman.
I’m a law student. I dont study at Weldon though. I make my way down to the Engineering Library where people are super serious.
You think the Law library is prejudice? One time I was laughing to myself about restrictive covenants and a small asian man stabbed me in the neck with a protractor. This asshole must have known acupuncture or something because I was completely paralyzed from this. This was a sign of weakness and all the other students in the library pounced on me like a fucking pack of Hyena’s. These guys then put their Texas Instruments calculators into a pillow case and beat the shit out of me.
Not only do those engineering mofo’s think they’re better than everyone because they can build a bridge they back it up with brute strength.
sorry fuckyou person, those words are acceptable in this wormhole. along with feck and aresetard^^
lol, lovin it:-), have at it kids.
Sooo….how many of you have studied philosophy?
http://www.motifake.com/lawyers-lawyer-ass…
OP: Give us a chance. Sure, we might not be good-looking enough for you, but for the most part we’re decent people. If the library seems particularly tense these days, it’s because we’re preparing for exams (most of which are 100% finals.)
See, fuckyou is a prime example of a fetus wannabe lawyer. Instead of focusing on the situation, he/she worries about a word being used. But they are amusing to watch in action.
Your grammar and spelling (or lack thereof) make or break your argument. If you can’t write using proper grammar, then it will discredit you and your argument.
FUCK SNAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To the law students out there:
The basement of the library were the black sofas are is also a silent area. If you want to have group studies, do so at the appropriate meeting rooms.
Get over yourself, FB.
The funny thing about lawyers is that people love to hate them… until they need one.
Hey Snail,
As a law student, you are welcome in our shared library.
Being an entitled rule hating over-reactionary high strung nitwit anti-rebel who probably races daddy’s SUV between North Toronto and Muskoka all summer blaring Bedouin Soundclash’s latest album, instead of getting a real job, or reading a book, or going to Africa to help dig a well (oh wait you did that last year right?) means you’ll fit right in at Dal Law. Welcome. Don’t forget to bring some crap ass noodles to leave in the food bank box in the front lobby because poor people love crap ass noodles.
– Trickligoo
why do you need to eat and drink in a library? or even classroom for that matter? is that not what people take breaks to do…breaks where you also have the opportunity to socialize and chat without disrupting anyone? IMO students have an unwarranted sense of entitlement…educational facilities are a privilege for us all to enjoy in this country…we should be thankful and not complain when rules do not coincide with our consumption goals.
Who are these people?? Where did they come from? What is happening to the bitch board!!?!?
I take the bus home and then we’re overrun with (as Commandante correctly states) sock puppets! Yikes! RUN FOR IT!
Kind of like Annie having a conversation with herself, just a wee bit more intelligent.
*Narf*
Adoring Reader,
You are correct. I hate shopping for toilet paper that will satisfy my wife’s specifications. Have you seen the toilet paper aisle at the grocery store? It should really be a simpler task. But I do hate it.
However, when the right moment arrives, I am very glad I’ve done my due diligence with regard to toilet paper.
You must have heard this one:
What do you call ten lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
I know. It’s not that funny, but it was told to me by my lawyer brother-in-law.
Wait . . . now I’ve jumped into the maze hot for the cheese . . .
CE:
What is the difference between a dead squirrel lying in the middle of the road, and a dead lawyer lying in the middle of the road…
There are tire tracks in front of the squirrel.
Oh no I did-n’t!!!
You’re welcome 🙂
P.S. I hear you about the TP clusterfuck… your wife is lucky that you care so much. Really. (not trying to be an ass there)
The worst part about the law library is that you can’t masturbate in it anymore. Everyone got so serious after 9/11. Thanks a lot, Bin Laden.
Hey….I hate prostrate exams, even when I need one.
dear OP:
your words are unnecessary and rude. yes, i am a law student, but for one moment put yourself in our shoes:
– we pay $12,000+ in tuition, so yes, we should be entitled to a student space that is quiet and clean.
– we have 100% finals, and every moment is valuable. all of us would rather stay in the library and eat and drink in our to-go-mugs, but we do not because we respect the rules of the library. it would be kind of you to do so as well. loud wrappers and crunching are extremely distracting…especially when trying to understand the intricacies of tax law.
-i happen to think there are many attractive law students…but that just may be me. maybe get to know one, and perhaps you won’t be so antagonistic.
– and lashing out against the library staff? can you for one second imagine how frustrating it is for him to have to go around and ask students time and time again to not eat or drink in the library? i think he deserves a bit more respect.
so dear snail, please exercise some decorum and maturity the next time you’re at dunn….or the next time you feel the need to bitch…
Adoring Reader,
Yes, I do care. Sometimes I think I care too much.
I do have my limits, though. I will no longer venture into the tampon/pads aisle without explicit written instructions. Been there, done that, got the wrong thing and had to go back.
It appears that nobody has come to any consensus here.
So, can we just settle this by taking me up on MY suggestion, and get rid of the library all together?
We don’t have to convert it into a youth hostel, I’d be up for a laser tag arena, sleep-pod repository, gallery of photographs of other libraries, or a museum of donair. Anything but books. I’d even settle for a large empty structure where we can go toss wine glasses against a bare wall. Just no more god damn books!
Please.
Not only should SNAILS be banned from the law library, but law students should too. It’s for your own good. You’ll grow up to be a less douche-baggy lawyer.
I’m all for turning it into a laser tag arena, maybe one with a starbucks in it.
Wow. I had no idea that so many other law students felt the same way. I have suffered in silence for far too long. I love you guys.
Jesus H. Motherfucking Christ.
♬ why do you not speak, when i hold your life in my hands♬
I am a law librarian.
The law library is a facility provided for academic and legal research. Please just sit down, shut the fuck up and respect the library which, incidently, is my place of work.
You catch the last word of the last paragraph? ‘Work’. Try doing some.
Shut up, show some respect, or fuck off and get out.
And, no, I am not at the Dunn, so don’t give the greasy eyeball to the Dunn librarians and staff. It sounds like they suffer enough already.
I like dal’s law library. It’s quiet and a nice place to actually get some studying done.
that the one in the concrete monstrosity?
never been there but notice that gawdy building every time.
Well. It’s no Vaughan, z3 😉
I remember back in the day, like 2 years ago, sitting in some of my classes in high school, excited to get out of that place so I wouldn’t have to deal with people who thought they were better than everyone else. But working with the public and just seeing this bitch shows me that nothing changes :(. Law students think they’re better because they sunk more money into their education and some people think they’re better because they look better. Nobody cares about any of you, remember that. You could die tomorrow and most of the billions of people in the world won’t miss you. A lot of you are going to graduate married to debt and working in fast food or some shitty big box store because you can’t get a job in your field because a degree doesn’t guarantee shit!! You’re probably better off being a plumber. You won’t have to deal with all these people who think they’re soooo important and good looking.
no Vaughan indeed…. I loved that windowed room that sticks out of the building near the main student entrance…. though rarely spent any time in there.
well…… any productive time, that is.
Oh don’t be silly, law students don’t think they’re better because they’ve sunk more money into their education.
Law students think they’re better because they’re more intelligent.
Also, they’re engaged in academics that can actually be challenging, as opposed to the 4 year party of BSing exams, and writing papers in an hour, that is undergrad. Remember, we’ve all been where you are. We know how simple and absurd your current stage of education is. If you disagree, that’s just further proof that we really are more intelligent than you. If you agree, then fantastic, we’ll see you in 1 to 4 years.
Regarding “concrete monstrosity”, no, you’ve got us confused with Osgoode at York.
However, I give you permission to use their law library anytime you’d like. It’ll be like boot camp. You’ll come back much better behaved (as long as we promise never to send you there again)
The law library, one would think, would be there for law students. I supose though if there is no deterant such as a key or key pass preventing non law students from using it then one would have to surmise it is open to all students and/or people using it for legal purposes. When one, as it seems is an unwelcome guest in said institution should, at the very least, show some respect and follow the rules in place ( it is after all a law library ).
Since when did conflict resolution enter into the mantra of a lawyer? Unless you are doing pro bono work, I would wager a guess that the size of your paychecque is directly related to the amount of conflict you create. I don’t see too many lawyers bragging about how many insignificant cases they won or how small their paycheques are.
Lawyers and law students do have an sense of aristocracy about them that may seem well deserved to them, but in short you are no better than the rest of us. Wealth and power don’t make you better they make you richer and more powerful, and if you don’t use both for a noble cause it just makes you look like an ass, not to mention a greedy pig.
Out of all of this post and one time posters who all seem to be law students, whom I have very little in common with other then I can send you business when you graduate. I would only like to welcome one newcomer “Adoring Reader” …. you made me laugh with your “no you did-n’t”.
Right on SHID.
I take back what I said earlier.
Braging about how much you pay for something, how boorish.
Looks like more of Annie’s Kids have grown up and gone off to school in the big city. Add this crop to the list, and we probably have enough of them to make up a decent sized tetherball team.
iurisconsulti, fures in nocte
ok, while not the gawdy monstrosity I was thinking of,
It still does look like a concrete piece of shit.
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merry christmas norma jean
Merry Christmas Hugo <3
Hi everyone!
I’m sensing a lot of anger and frustration regarding this topic. I am writing this hopefully to smooth some of the relations between the SNAILS and the law students.
I am a SNAIL and I use the law library because:
1.) There are often no computers in Killiam and there are usually many computers available in the law library.
2.) Printing is a fraction of the price in the law library than the printing in Killiam or any other building and, like any other student, money is tight
3.) It’s slightly quieter than Killiam
4.) and perhaps most importantly, my best friend (who is a law student) is here and because I spend average 8 hrs + /day in the library and he spends almost that much time there as well, its time I get to spend with him.
To clear up some of the myths that have been discussed throughout the comment section:
1.) There are MANY very good looking men and women in the law library, whether future lawyers or SNAILS. I have talked/sometimes flirted with some of them 🙂 They are great.
2.) The majority of the library staff is lovely especially the blond lady that works during the day. Her smile has been amazing each morning when I have to drag myself in for another day of study. The one man that has been referred to that asks you to take your coffee out of the library if its not in a travel mug has approached me before for making that mistake. In truth, I have been frustrated by this as coffee is the lifeblood of my existence, but the man is doing his job and we can’t blame him for that.
3.) I have been going to the law library almost everyday since the beginning of the year and I have heard both Law students and SNAILs being loud in the library. I have also seen both law students and SNAILS eat in the library.
At the end of the day we are all humans and right now, especially during exams we are stressed humans. And, whether its laughing at something funny on youtube or eating a cookie, or shooting angry looks at the person at the next computer desk, we do things that make us happy in moments when we are stressed in order to deal with that stress. Sometimes, in the moment, we do these things without taking into consideration the feelings of others. This doesn’t make what we do right, but it also doesn’t give us reason to attack others in order to project some of these stresses onto our neighbour.
Instead, perhaps, if you don’t recognise someone in the law library, follow the wisdom of Seinfeld’s uncle Leo and ‘say hello’. I think that everyone, especially at this time of year needs a sense of connection and if we work together we can create a space in the law library of inclusivity and warmth as opposed to rigid exclusion and distance from each other. Let’s acknowledge the common struggle that we all share as university students, as well as the extreme privilege that we ALL have to be here and create a space amongst each other that can be conducive to support for all.
You are all loved, no matter who you are and what faculty you come from. Say hello and I would be happy to make a new friend.
Best of luck for exams 🙂 <3
Love,
Your SNAIL
TBITW.
excellent, cohesive summary.
B- for you since you’re a snail, not a wickedly awesome and instantly amazing future lawyer…
so you should be used to being stupid.
Lawyers have to remember one thing, especially those in criminal law. For all your “education”, you’re often beat in court by high school graduate police officers. Remember it takes them about six months what it takes you four years to learn. LOL.
*Yawn*
As the library employee who is quite possibly the origin of this bitch, and as a law student, I feel it’s time I made a few points.
Firstly, to all the law students whose comments are of the “we’re allowed to be arrogant pricks because we’re better/smarter/guaranteed to be paid more than you” variety: shut the fuck up. We’re not better than anybody else just because we’re in law school. In fact, I think being in law school makes many of us a whole lot worse, as demonstrated by the willingness of so many of you to publicly shit on all SNAILS indiscriminately. (Aside: How many members of your family are SNAILS? What about your partner? Did your parents go to law school? No? What about your best friend? Right… What if someone addressed a person you love in the condescending and judgmental way you’re addressing SNAILS here? How would you react? Yeah, I thought so. So STFU.)
Secondly, when I roam the library looking for contraband, I have absolutely no idea who is a law student and who is not. All I know is that if you’re in the library with a book in front of you, you know how to read. And there are signs EVERYWHERE outlining the library policy on food and drinks. I crack down on law students and SNAILS alike because, gasp, I actually give a shit about protecting the incredibly valuable resources that our library holds. Some of the books in the stacks are over 500 years old. Countless books in the collection, new and old, are worth thousands of dollars and completely irreplaceable. I have absolutely no problem with SNAILS studying in ‘our’ library–in fact, I think many law students could benefit from exposure to people who exist outside of the law school bubble. But our library is clean and quiet for a reason: because the staff work extremely hard to keep it that way, in part by enforcing the rules. When students feel entitled to eat chicken wings in the library (true story!) and every second person walks in with a disposable (and easily spillable) cup of coffee, staff can no longer assume that patrons can be trusted to act like adults and follow the very reasonable rules designed to protect our space and resources from both mice and human stupidity. We have no choice but to roam the halls making sure that no one is putting our invaluable collection at risk.
Which brings me to my third point: all the law students here need to get off their dangerously high horses and acknowledge that law students CONSTANTLY eat in the library, drink from “non-regulation” cups, and have loud conversations about inane shit in designated quite zones. SNAILS only appear in large numbers around exam time, yet the library is constantly filled with evidence of people breaking the rules. In fact, the library spaces most frequently littered with food debris are the discussion rooms, which can only be booked by law students. If you actually appreciate the cleanliness and relative quiet of the law library, prove it. Make my job easier by not trying to sneak in that snack. Turn off your fucking phone. And if you need to bitch about the latest episode of Glee, do it in the atrium!
And to the author of this bitch, fuuuuuuck you. I was doing my job, and you were doing something you knew was against the rules. I don’t make the rules, but I do believe they’re fair and will gladly take away your frappa-whatever-the-fuck in order to enforce them.
Books – good points, well written, easy to read.
Good writing style, the type that montrealman should try to emulate.
A little wordy, this is a bitch board aftr all, and not a pub…… never mind.
I am a bibliophile. My wife would say I suffer from bibliomania and hoarder’s syndrome.
I have always understood that there are very good reasons for not allowing food and drink into libraries, although these rules don’t seem to be respected or enforced as much as they used to be.
Aside from the inevitable mess that arises when baboons eat, the fact of the matter is that food attracts vermin. Rats, mice and cockroaches love to follow around after baboons living off the mess they leave behind.
The thought of rats, mice and cockroaches infesting the stacks of any library should stop baboons in their tracks, whether they know how to read or not, but unfortunately that doesn’t always seem to be the case.
I think the baboons should take their lunch outdoors and eat in the relative safety and comfort of the trees on campus, the way nature intended.
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Hmm … these comments are embarrassing. Both sides: kiss and make up before I tell Mom.
the weirdest thing about this bitch is that there are actually users who comment on bitches as if they were threads in a forum…
p.s. a sock puppet and an unregistered user are different things. ffs.
for your enlightenment please visit the following link:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?…
Seeing as it is the LAW library, designated for LAW students you should really be respectful when asked to leave….. after all it isn’t designated for your use 🙂 I don’t know why you feel the need to comment on the outward appearance of law students that’s just rude. perhaps you are the ugly one here? I can personally attest that not all law students are ugly. My boyfriend is HAWT and often mistaken for a body builder… thats right brawn AND brains … what have you got ? a paunchy belly , a zitty face and nasty, whiny personality? I think yes.
ok, so you’re an unregistered user, is that a news flash?
by your own web-ref, a sockpuppet is a fake personality, I do believe that’s the intended reference.
A) no it isn’t, it’s a secondary personality
B)by your definition YOU are a sock puppet
R.Mc, according to a senior Dalhousie Law law professor, there are no restrictions about use of the library. Anyone can come in and use the facilities (provided, as with all places, they obey the house rules). As for your BF enjoy him now because once he gets out his ass will belong to the firm with 80 hour weeks.
UNAR,
I believe you are a sock puppet, but at this point I haven’t figured out which other screen name has their hand up your ass, so to speak.
I would like to thank http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?… for that reference.
I could be wrong about this, but I’ve watched the action here long enough to know a sock puppet from a drama queen. I should know – I run a stable of sock puppets myself.
Tell your master he or she is welcome to join my informal group known as “The Puppet Masters”.
Shit, I got down about 20 posts until I realized this thread is way too smart for me. See you at “Buying “Local”.”
fucking SNAILS
http://noveltyknees.files.wordpress.com/20…
unzr, thanks for my morning laugh. Damm, you sound like a schoolyard cry-baby, “i’m rubber and you’re glue….” hahahahahahahahaha.
So what are you anway? Pre-dent? Pre-law? Pre-med? Pre-vet? Pre-mature?
pre-vert? we already have some of those
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUAK7t3Lf8s
troll: you are wrong about this
UNAR,
Sorry. My sock puppet comment was meant in jest. When I’m being serious my comments tend to run into multiple paragraphs with bad punctuation and poor sentence structure.
I’m a SNAIL but I believe I have a well established reputation or, at least placement, in the Weldon. This is my third year of using the Weldon library but I use it all year long to study in; not just exam time. I to hate you other SNAILS just as much as any of the law students even though I “only” pay 4000$ for tuition. I find you annoying and loud and obnoxious much like the people on third floor last night who were right fully told to throw out their coffee to-go-cup. You are the reason why I started studying at Weldon anyways.
Be a dear and eat outside. If you don’t want the excersise of the stairs then use the elevator. The rules are clearly posted at the entrance to the library whether you like them or not, have enough dignity to respect them.