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Are you kidding me?????? I suppose chivalry and old fashioned manners are a thing of the past then? Honestly, if you asked me out and then asked me to pay I would just think you are rude and have no manners at all! And… —please don’t ever call me again!! EVER!! Thank you.
This article appears in Nov 25 – Dec 1, 2010.
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We’ve already covered this, OP.
Seriously… isn’t there a rule or something about making a bitch about a bitch? Couldn’t you have just commented on the other bitch?
I don’t think this is a bitch about a bitch, just a similarly-themed bitch. But I could be wrong.
Doesn’t it seem to you like the bitcher is just bitching about the fact that everyone said on the other thread that dates should be dutch?
It would seem that way up until their sign-off of “please don’t ever call me again!! EVER!! Thank you.”. Again, I could be wrong.
If I ask you out, and you don’t offer pay part…unless you bob me in the parking lot, I probably won’t ask you out again.
But she says “if” and “I would” like it hasn’t actually happened. I think her sign off seems like she saying, I would think… AND also want you to never call me again. But, that’s just me haha
Mod 5.0 needs some work.
Stuck up bitch, I won’t be calling her back.
Maybe, PF. I don’t know really.
If he asked her out and then asked her to pay for both meals then OP has a point, that would be super tacky. I’d never ask a date to pay for both meals. But if he asked her out and he was forced to ask her to pay for her half because she didn’t offer to pay her half then she’s the super tacky one who put him in an awkward situation. This is 2010, men shouldn’t be expected to pay for everything anymore.
Lesson: always assume you are paying for half, and always offer to pay your half, it’s a classy thing to do… if he/she want’s to pay for yours they’ll insist on it.
If I was a guy I’d appreciate my date offering to pay for her half. It shows that she’s not going to suck my wallet dry, she’s independent, classy, has a source of income, and has a modern sense of fairness and gender roles.
Dates shouldn’t be about who pays so much anyway. You’re (hopefully) not going out on the date for a free meal (how tacky and cheap is that?). You’re going out to spend time with the other person because you want to be there with them. So show it and offer to pay your half! And make good on that offer if you’re lucky enough to be dating a guy who has the balls to reject stupid outdated sexist traditions!
Easy way to avoid any embarrassment is that the inviter at the point of the invitation let it be known if it is a treat or Dutch. It’s that simple.
umm if you consider yourself a woman who is liberated then why not dutch? I go dutch with my husband all the time, doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have charm just means that we are being economically wise. I think you are a spoiled little snot who thinks that men should have to pay for everything and everyone! Perhaps before you date the next victim you should ask first is it dutch or not? that way you won’t look like an idiot and the guy won’t get let down if he has a thing for you. So grow up and be mature!
When women begin acting again like they have class, maybe men will start acting chivalrous again.
right fucking on o.p., if the date is that cheap to treat you, after asking YOU out, then you would be better off by your lonesome, and you would probably have better company too.
“Dates are Dutch”…yeah , and wooden shoes are Egyptian. Hey MacGyver, blow up your fucking Stargate and stay in your own Goddam alternate universe, Okay!
I was actually surprised how much it’s changed….
not having dated in a decade.
the gals pretty much assume they’re paying for half…
and snoop’s dead on.
Here’s a few tips and tricks to first dates.
http://www.jaffamood.com/first-date-tips-a…
that was great puss. i loved first impressions…poke^^
My wife’s income is about a third of mine. Everytime we go out for breakfast, lunch or dinner, I pay full. However, I expect her to pay for the odd meal every now and then without syphoning her bank account.
OP, actually dates may be beyond Dutch. Once something is mainstream, you don’t need a special name for it.
…and that would mean we need a name for dates where only the man shells out. How about “going Amish” or “going medieval”?
It seems as though the only solution if guys want a girl to pay half is to actually date a Dutch girl. Hallo!
Women, never date a Dutch man if you’re not willing to fork out some coin.
IMO, if you ask someone out on a FIRST date, you should be willing and prepared to pay for your date’s meal as well, whether you’re a man or woman. First dates should never be dutch, unless the one (who was asked out) offers to pay for their part, otherwise the asker should pay for all. After all, don’t you want to impress the person YOU asked out? Any dates following could be dutch then.
I might be old fashioned in this way, but I think if someone is out of their house on your invitation, then you should pick up the tab.
I even have a hard time letting women whom I have a strictly platonic relationship with pay if we go out for dinner/coffee/movie. If its a woman sitting across from me my Y chromosome kicks in and I reach for the wallet.
I appreciate a little resistance on their end by the way. I like when they try to pay for their half….but no fucking way are they going to win that battle.
ahh… the check dance…
How much is it?
that’s ok, I’ve got it..
no, that’s alright, I got my half…
don’t worry about it.
If he asks me on a first date…I sort of expect him to grab for the bill
…..I’ll then follow with a “I’ll get it next time”, depending on if the date went well.
Or “I’ll get my half” if there’s no chemistry but the guy was nice.
Or I’ll just let him pay if it was so terrible that I feel I should be compensated for my time.
I definitely agree with you RealChick.
after we do the check dance I do that move were I snap my fingers and point to my genitals.
and we laugh and laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh!
Morning All.
Who wants to go dutch on lunch?
Think I’ll be eating at the triangle, maybe bug Ivan.
mornin bitches. i am toiling away today but it is the sixth day!!! lovin the avatar hugo… yes please go bug the commander for me^^^
Rawkin’ Great avatar Hugo and Painey – you’ll be pleased to know He followed your advice. We split the check. *HeeHaw*
yahoo…well i did say “please” food was good i hope and of course you left a generous gratuity^^
Tee Hee >; ) yes on both counts. We discussed a Christmas Eve Road Trip to Montreal to go carolling on Annie’s lawn. Who’s up for it? Chance to see Ivan dressed in swaddling clothes asleep in a manger. That oughtta sweeten the pot a little.
i feel that particular monsieur needs a friend but i’ve given up on that…we just came back from getting some pj’s for the hound. our house is old/cold and drafty…okay you can laugh now^^^how’s the shoppe this evening?
Pretty good day. Good visit mit Herr Phurst. Longhound in PJs might make a good Xmas avatar. Hint Hint. Roooooooooooooooooo. No one gave Annie more of a chance than you, mon ami. Not that you need our help or anything, but I kinda groove on the fact that whenever some night crawling, panty categorizer is rude to our Bread-sis, the 47 Ronin of LTWWB sharpen their blades for some righteous bloodletting. >; ) BANZAI!
thank you kind sir. the pj’s will need some alterations…the hound is like the boy, all arms legs and chest. i promised the nice lady i would send a photo so i will give it the old luddite try *ahem* probably after my tech support comes home. the bear is watching tommy lee jones and harrison ford mix it up…you can rawk a guess
“Joey Pants” is in that! – and the guy who played the Romulan commander Tomalok on TNG – he’s the one-armed man. Trivia Nerdz Rawk!
i bow to your knowledge commander
I’m so very lonely >: (
*Poit* Just kiddin’
fargo
very appropriate avatar commander “do you have any idea how fucking busy i am”
Agreed, cool avatar Ivan.
Send in the world police.
“Fuck You Hans Brix!” – I think that the situation can only be de-escalated by having the U.N. write a letter, telling the North Koreans just how unhappy they are.
Thanks guys – “In keeping with the situation.” >; )
yes, a very strongly worded letter with lots of exclamation points!!! that is a favourite christmas movie in my coven admiral^^rawkin with the kitchen aid in a few minutes
I’ve always said that Die Hard was the best Christmas movie ever personally. 😛
it’s one of my top five nerd man, i have it on dvd. i ♥ alan rickman, as does my bff-sobova
Yup – one of my faves. One of the first flicks to feature the Heckler & Koch MP-5 submachinegun – and one of the first action films where Hollywood acknowledged that firearms do, upon occasion, run our of ammunition. Rickman was uber-kule as Hans Gruber.
Great movie! I could use a good Die Hard night in… May have to put it on my “too rent ASAP” list.
Alan Rickman… I saw HP 7 part 1 this weekend!!! It was aaawwwwesome. (Please don’t judge, I adore the Harry Potter series). So dark and dramatic, now I’m on edge for final movie.
To each their own, I say.
i’m with 195…i can’t believe there are 7 harry potter movies and i haven’t seen one^^^
It’s ok painey, there’s lots of time to catch up. The first 3 are really geared towards kids, but as the characters get older, the movies are much more mature. Sigh. It’s the only “thing” I indulge in, really. And I just adore it. I didn’t get into it until the 4th book was published, then I had to go back and read them all. Even my boyfriend enjoys it, mostly because I find it so awesome, and I get to tell him about all the behind the scenes intrigue, etc, etc. The books really are fabulous. Heh he. I could go on for ever, but I try not too 🙂
mature eh? i like movies like this
http://www.treehugger.com/science-fiction-…
Me too, but I need a little bit of magic too 🙂
when i was little my nana had a big armoire filled with dresses and fur coats. i could never find the secret passage to narnia but i’ll keep on looking…go aslan
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/narnia…
Another magical series that I adore…