i’m an asthmatic! I don’t appreciate smokers smoking in bus stops, around enterances to business/gov property. I have to breath the same fucking air you pollute with your smoking. I appreciate the smokers who do care but for those who don’t who gave you the right to breath smoke in my face when i’m trying to enter or leave a fucking building. Use your manners your mother taught you!
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And the diesel and gas fumes from cars, trucks and buses don’t bother you? Interesting.
You should start wearing one of those white paper jobs that protect the mouth. I call them ‘Sars Masks’.
I find in funny that when there is a post about a smoker complaining about being complained about you guys bash him…and now a non-smoker is complaining about smokers and you do the same thing. Do you just keep changing your opinions? I stand by mine and say the smokers should show some consideration for those who chose not to risk their lives by smoking. And although there is no “absolute safety”, we have to look to see if the benefits outweight the risks. And as for smoking…there are no benefits. PERIOD. However, I think the benefits of these fumes you speak from cars do outweight the risks, but making travel more convenient, especially for those with disabilities.
Ive walked into shopping malls/stores and had to walk threw a cloud of smoke, Ive gone in the store and directly to customer service or security. there is a sign there for a reason.WHen i have my children with me, i make a point to tell them to hold their breath so they dont breath in the smoke because there are people not following the rules.. and i make sure i say it loud enough so the moron whos puffing away can hear me.. along with a nasty look, they usually walk away..People have no respect for others and expecially children. Smoking in public should be the next by law. why should you be aloud to explose my child to second hand smoke when i do not allow it in my own home or on my property.. what gives a smoker that right?
Um, I didn’t change my opinion.
Sorry poop. You’re right. Maybe I just didn’t like your sarcastic remark.
Hi, my name is Jane. I have no sense of humor.
And let’s not forget the idiots that stand outside the Duke St entrance to Scotia Square, right under the “no smoking” signs, and light up. There was a guy who used to sit outside Second Cup on Sprig Garden every day, right under the “no smoking” sign, and chain-smoke. One day I pulled out my digital camera, asked him if I could take his picture. He said yes, so I asked him if he would mind scootching over so the “no smoking” sign was directly above his head — told him I was taking his picture for a photo series called “Irony.”I never saw him there again.
I do have a sense of humour poop. I laugh my ass off at the majority of these posts. Infact, maybe this is immature…but laugh at the fact that your posting name is POOP. hahahahaha
There ya go 🙂 And it’s no more immature than me using the name. I’m glad you can laugh at it!
matt i def agree with you that this comment “However, I think the benefits of these fumes you speak from cars do outweight the risks, but making travel more convenient, especially for those with disabilities.”is total bull shit and really really stupid, I really dont think that our convenience outweighs the well being of our planet.But on the bitch it self a smokers need to smoke right outside the fucking door of a place right under no smoking signs outweighs the a persons right not to have to breath in this additional shit in our air.
“miniscule problem of second hand smoke and the public, outdoors.” uuummm….1/3 of ALL cancers arise from smoking, especially second hand smoke. You don’t have to do research to know a common fact Matt. I really don’t think that cancer is a miniscule problem.
T are you saying you walk everywhere and don’t heat your house? and don’t do ANYTHING to pollute the air? I see how you totally missed the point where I said there is ABSOLUTELY NO BENEFIT TO SMOKING!!!!! and you don’t see the benefit of an ambulence rushing a dying person to the hospital (while poluting the air at the same time) or a fire truck rushing to a fire to safe the lives of people in a burning building…
I think matt is mostly correct on this point. Of the 1/3 of all cancers caused by smoking, how many of those are from second hand smoke (probably not many). And of those second-hand smokers who get cancer, how many got it from casual exposure vs. spending years living with a smoker? That stat is way out of context. Toxicity is all about dose and unless you have some genetic predisposition to cancer, it would take an awefully long time to develop cancer from walking through a puff of smoke here and there everyday. I’m not saying that should be allowed to happen, I like public smoking bans, I’m just saying let’s keep it reasonable. Air pollution from cars and powerplants and factories provides much more toxic exposure than casual second-hand smoke.
should have been a question mark at the end of my last post because i do think its fucked up that people do that. And jane thats not what I said, I said that getting around in cars (ambulances included) isnt more important than having a planet to put that fucking car on. What happens when we run out of oil? Will it then be important to find another way to get around, heat our house and power things? I don’t drive, more of an economical than environmental thing though. Im not saying things should happen over night and if I needed it fucking right id be calling that ambulance.I think the real point is that as a non smoker over your lifetime what do you feel will effect your health more?
So, i’m a non smoker who rides my bike and takes the bus. I don’t own a car. But because i take the bus, that makes me ‘part of the problem’? Just curious Jane..
Guess this will make the Smoke Nazis fume: a recent study now says that the smokers who get lung cancer are genetically predisposed and that some smokers will be able to puff their heads off until they’re old and grey. That should make a few of the SN implode. As far as second-hand smoke goes, it is as likely to hurt you outdoors as those forty-six 18 wheelers rolling by the bus stop.
I think everyone is missing this whole point of this bitch, even I. The bitcher said, “who gave you the right to breath smoke in my face when i’m trying to enter or leave a fucking building.” I think the bitcher is talking about where are signs saying NO SMOKING, (as the stated bus stops and government buildings) yet people still smoke there. YES, it is rude and inconsiderate. YES, you are breaking the law when you do it. NO, I don’t get a shit if you smoke your lungs black. Just don’t be an asshole and smoke where there are no smoking signs…I know you’re no all illiterate, you can read those signs.
and no poop, that is not what I was saying. Matt seems to think that if a non-smoking driver can tells a smoker not to smoke, then a non-driving smoker should be able to tell a non-smoking driver to not drive. And I said that more then likely this smoker takes a bus, which also pollutes…so how is it any different then taking a car that pollutes?
“Jane, do you have any idea how long humans survived on this earth without cars???? Do you have any idea? Do you realise eventually we will not be able to use gas and oil on this earth? – because there wont be any.” Yeah, you’re right Matt…but do know how much longer people are living now because of vehicles??? I hope you enjoy your nice juicy oranges, and other such tropical fruit. hmmmm wouldn’t have those healthy food choices without the “indulgence” of using a vehicle. Thank god I don’t have scurvy.
Jane, re your post of 3:05 pm:What?
“I said that more then likely this smoker takes a bus, which also pollutes…so how is it any different then taking a car that pollutes?”Ohh shit, is that really how you feel?Let give a low number of ppl on a bus of 10. So 10 people taking 1 bus is the same as 10 people taking 10 cars????Given that a full bus seats 40 or 50 ppl, I had no idea that 1 bus pollutes as much as 40 cars.Thanks for the insight
That’s not what I’m saying T…I’m saying that they BOTH pollute…I never said that one polluted more then the other. Now who’s making assumptions?
i didnt assume anything, or accuse you of assuming anything. You said whats the difference?… Well the difference is 50x more cars polluting.Would it bother you the same if one person smoked right outside the door of your work or if 50 people did it?
Yeah, actually it would bother me just the same. There are signs there for a reason.
Really? So 50 ppl smoking at the door to your work/school/home would bother you the same as 1? So its not the smoke or the pollution that bothers you. Its people not following the rules?Just trying to understand where your coming from cause you make no sense. Ahh well to each their own…
Yeah for you smokers that take the bus, if you took the money you spend on cigs in a month, you could probably afford a half decent car, and you wouldn’t have to take the bus in the first place…Just sayin’
No No FUCK YOU very much…I guessing a lot of you do not remember twenty years ago. Judging by your attitudes you were in diapers, lapping at your moms tit and some of you should still be there. Fucking babies. The whole smoking thing has changed a lot over the past 20 years. Non-smokers have gotten a lot done and that is good because smoking is bad for you. But keep in mind how it was and how it is. Slow down on your bitching and be thankful for the progress. I have been a courteous smoker and still get dirty looks or rude comments. I think in some cases the smokers are just an easy, accessible target. I think it is called ‘shooting the cripples’. I know the next person that says anything to me is going to get an earful. As long as it is not illegal and I am still alive I’ll smoke where-ever-the-fuck I please. Sick of you non-smoking, whiney, little spoiled bitches. Life is not like Burger King, Your Way Right Away.
None of us were saying it should be illegal…just don’t smoke in public places where it clearly says “NO SMOKING”…and if you were such a courteous smoker you would not receive dirty looks and rude comments. And as for “shooting the cripples”…when has as smoker become a cripple?? and don’t go calling non-smokers spoiled little bitches just becaue they don’t waste their money on cigarettes and you do.
Lately it does really matter where one smokes they still get dirty looks and rude comments are said, has nothing to do with being a courteous. It has everything to do with poor attitudes of non-smokers, the ‘Holier-than-Thou” attitude. A Big Blow-Me goes out to those types. You totally missed the point of ‘Shooting the Cripples’. That was meant for those of you who are all about health and safety but only bitch about the smoker or the little issues. Meaning you do not tackle the major issues of huge polluters or areas of employment that are dangerous, that is ‘shooting the cripples’ . To lazy or not effective enough to pursue the more pressing issues of health and safety. You are kind of like politicians, do very little to make a difference but make a big deal out of it. I am not calling you spoiled little bitches because you do not spend you money on cigarettes. I am calling you spoiled little bitches because nothing is good enough for you and you throw fits like children when you do not get things exactly as you wish. The money I spend on cigarettes is so miniscule it is almost irrelevant. I hope that clears things up for you and your misconceptions.
I find the biggest problem is this: too many smokers confuse the right to smoke with the right to pollute. Yes, you have the right to smoke — but not wherever and whenever you want, and not in places where your smoking could bother other people. You also have the right to fart, but presumably you don’t light one up when you’re standing right next to someone, or in the workplace, or on the bus.
Poor attitudes??? Some smokers thinking they can just go around smoking whereever they please with no consideration of others. That is a poor attitude. Having concern for your own health andsafety…I really don’t see that as having a poor attitude? And bitching about smokers is NOT a little issue when it’s killing thousands and thousands of people a year. Maybe you should take a look at your cigarette box. Smoking and alcohol are number one causes of serious diseases…how is that not serious??
I completely agree with you Mortimer. That’s where the bad attitude of smokers comes in.
Right on Matt, right on.
matt-with-a-small-M, with all due respect, you sound kind of like you’re trying to incite an anti-Jane movement. I’m not trying to get on your case, but it does seem sort of petty to be attacking her so blatantly, and on such a personal level. Is it, in fact, you who misses Ginger most of all?
Matt buddy, what’s goin’ on? Qwerty and i are cyber lesbians. We have cyber love and make little cyber lesbian babies. Seriously though..where the hell is qwerty? It’s nice to have Ginger gone..(i think she’s still here..if not in camoflauged, less obvious posting, then in spirit), but we did have a little fun with her. Or a lot. Ginger..you there hon? Jane = Ginger. Busted biatch!
Yeah, I like it when I’m standing well OUTSIDE of a bus stop, or MORE than 5m from an entrance, and someone still has something to say about my puffin’ on a fag. I’m following the by-law as it’s written, and I put my butts in the garbage. What the fuck else do people want? Boggles my mind…
matt, my initial reply to you apparently vanished into cyberspace. I don’t want to get into a shouting match, so I’m gonna bow out of this exchange now.But please, re-read your recent posts. Don’t see seem awfully full of rage, and defensiveness? Not to mention things that make no sense (I’m Jane’s “little skipper”?). Your earlier posts indicate you’ve got useful things to say, but lately your too many of your posts seem full of hatred and bile.
I know I said I was dropping it, matt, and I meant it, but “Jesus freak”? That’s incredibly insulting and offensive, matt, and not to me: I’m not especially religious. But think of the phrase you used. Would you use the phrase “nigger lover,” or “wop,” or “heeb”? I’d like to think you wouldn’t, but lately your posts have been so full of hatred of anyone who disagrees with you that perhaps you would. Anyway, you haven’t insulted me with your “Jesus freak” comment, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you inadvertently insulted a whole lot of readers of this forum. Perhaps you should re-read your posts, before hitting the “submit” button, and really look at them. You might catch some of your spelling errors, too (“victime mantality,” for example) — these often obscure the content of your posts, sometimes making your points difficult to catch; and, as I said earlier, you used to make some good points, before you got so inexplicably nasty. You can respond to this, if you like, but I’m done.
If there are no signs posted, that means smokers can smoke there, or wherever they please, regardless of consideration or permission from a stranger walking or standing by. And if non-smokers are bothered by that, they have the right to make a face, comment, or walk as far away as they need to. They have no more rights than a non-smoker, and I think this is the problem. Non-smokers do not have more rights than smokers. Scott is right: things have swung in the favour of non-smokers in the last 20 years, but it’s not enough. It’s become a control issue, and the great outdoors is the final frontier. Some non-smokers won’t be happy until nobody smokes, just like some people who don’t want an abortion don’t think anyone should have an abortion. What happened to holding your breath for five seconds? Asking security or building management to address the issue (if it’s a crowd of people you have to walk through every day, or are following you around smoking) might help too.
Matt….I really think you are just an ego-tistical prick. You are so full of yourself that when someone disagrees with you, you have to nail them into the ground until you feel good about yourself. And your little comment about Mortimer being my “little skipper” is pathetic. You’re just pissed off because he doesn’t agree with either. Infact, I read your little profile stating something along the lines of, “I’m a good, good, good, great guy. I’m a good guy, I’m so good. blah blah blah…”I like long walks on the beach and a BJ.” hmmmm if that doesn’t make you sound full of yourself, I don’t know what does.
Oh poop! You silly little bitch. You figured it all out on your own! You are so smart. Here is a golden start for you! * 🙂
star*
this morning i thought.. hmm i bet jane is ginger lol
Oh, look who took a break from rotating on her dildo. Jane..poor Jane. Almost slipped that by you, didn’t i? But you’re just too quick for me! Watch out for this one people..she’s good. A golden start. (star*). Wow, thanks Jane. Now if you could manage to fuck yourself on your way up to that pedestal i’d really be a happy camper.
Who is this matt guy, and why is he so obnoxious? Not to mention semi-literate. Why do you all listen to him, and why do you all pay any attention to him?
Shhh.
No, seriously. Reading through his older posts, he sounds like a loudmouthed, poorly educated bully. Why do you all put up with him?
Charlie, do you have anything to say related to the thread, or are you just here to obsess over matt?
Holy shit poop. That was the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Still laughing. Thanks for that.
That’s the Shhh, not the other thing.
Sorry, poop, not obsessing. I posted one comment, you replied to it, and I replied to yours. Now I am replying to yours again.
Charlie, clearly you’re infatuated with matt.Miles, glad i could return the favour. You’ve had me laughing a few times! 🙂
Poop, some people might wonder if you’re the one who is infatuated with matt — you keep jumping to his defence, this time only seven minutes after I responded to you.So far I’ve made one post about matt; all my others have been replies to you, his self-appointed defender. Be a big girl, dear, and let him handle his own defence. I really wasn’t talking to you, anyway, and I’m going to start ignoring you.
Poop’s infatuated with me, a-hole.And why would your first post be an insult to a regular? Such a noob move.
Charlie I wouldn’t fuck with poop if I were you… You might piss off matt and then watch out…
Or even worse… The wrath of qwerty….
Or even worse… The wrath of qwerty….
Whoops… Hand slipped… Shouldn’t be doing this while driving…Ever since them new cell phone laws came in last week…
Floyd, put down your i-phone and drive. We’ll all be here for the mocking when you get home. 😉
Its ok now.. I’ve got a red light. qwert, do you wind if I call you qwert… I just wanted to tell you that I missed you and I am glad you are back… Also I wanted to tell to that I loShit light turned green… Gotta go…
hahahahahahahahhahaharotflmaoyer a funny fuck.I was away for a few days is all…
mind not wind… duh
I don’t wind. I don’t wind at all.Flo.
Charlie is Jane wearing a cheap disguise. “you keep jumping to his defence, this time only seven minutes after I responded to you.” – Yeah, and i thought it was cute how you responded to MY post in 4 minutes. Slick. Did you really think noone would stick up for matt? Some people here actually think he’s alright, much unlike yourself, Jane. Er..Charlie. My bad, my bad.
qwerty knows what’s up. I’m obsessed/infatuated/totally lezzing out for her. And i don’t have the time or skills to form a cyber love triangle with her and matt. Get your facts straight, you skidly little shite.
Charlie, i’m obviously joking with you. No, i don’t really think you’re infatuated with matt. About you being Jane: again, just messing with you. Lighten up a little, chief.
Poop: Joking? Perhaps. Obviously? No. The tone of your comments to me was the same as the tone in your comments elsewhere on this message board — you really did sound like you meant the things you were saying and the accusations you were making.
You’re doing a great job of ignoring, Charlie.
yourmom (but not my Mom): poop seemed to be making a sincere effort to apologize. It seemed appropriate to acknowledge that: there’s far too little in the way of apologies on this message board. It’s fine to ignore people who are being rude, but it’s not fine to ignore them when they are trying to be nice. My Mom taught me that.
He must have been away the day the teacher explained the difference between “ignoring” and “acknowledging”.When he says “I’m ignoring you”, what he means is “I’m acknowledging you”. Poor guy, all confused like.
Yes, i’m a bit of a bitch here. I’m the first to admit it, too. That’s just my style in the coast though!
But, poop… wait for it… I like your style on the coast.Even though we can’t lezz out anymore, because the bible says it’s wrong.
I don’t like the bible’s style in the coast. Off with thier heads.
You and me both, poop.. You and me both…(Except for the “totally lezzing out for her” part) You’ve got me beat there…
“Charlie is Jane wearing a cheap disguise.”Sorry, poop, not so. Charlie is Charlie, Jane is Jane, and you continue to amaze me with your childish paranoia. And now, back to ignoring you….
Hey there, matt. Nice to see you’re an angle — or is that “angel,” misspelled in your usual careless, semi-literate fashion? Nice to see, too, that you are continuing in your bloody-minded, ignorant pattern of writing off criticism as irrelevant to you. Also nice to see that you continue in your obsessive need to prove that everyone who has a problem with your bullying methods is in reality the same person. You do, occasionally, say something worth listening to. I did say that. But lately nearly everything you say is dripping with venom, positively laced with rage.
Uh oh. We told him not to go there, but he went and went there.It’s on.
Like donkey kong.