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Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

This is what I wrote to Tori Jarvis - Join in folks....


Dear Ms Jarvis,

I am writing to express my outrage over the forced eviction of Ray's and Taste of India.

I am a teacher with a husband and two children. When we come into Halifax for the day, we ALWAYS head to Scotia Square. Why? Is the allure of the dime a dozen Rietmans? Perhaps we had missed our chance at one of the dozens of Starbucks in town? No, we go for something special, something real and something ONLY Scotia Square HAD. Real ethnic food, served by families for families.

I am almost in tears that you have failed to take into account relationships in your business model. In this cookie cutter world of monotony and corporate repetition, what Ray's and Taste of India has done for your business is something other property agencies can only dream of achieving: a loyal, growing customer base that cannot be replicated by any chain shop.

And think of the advertising dollars you have spent on Ray's and Taste of India. Oh, what's that? No advertising dollars? No investment in their store frontage? No print or , god forbid, social media advertising? That's right - the success of these two businesses has come about from word of mouth. Good old fashioned word of mouth.

Crombie - REIT - Sobey's family - I think you are about to find out just how powerful the WORD of MOUTH really is.

I wish your enterprise a change of heart ( or at least business model). Until then, my family are no longer patrons of Scotia Square.

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Posted by spudislander10 on 01/31/2014 at 8:34 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

I wrote this to Tori Jarvis:

Hi Tori,

I am just adding my voice as one of many that will be telling you in the next few days that they will never step foot in Scotia Square again after how your company has egregiously mistreated your long-time tenants and evicted them from their successful business locations.

The only reason myself and a lot of people go to that food court is because of the ethnic food that is far superior to the run-of-the-mill food courts elsewhere in the city. Fast food franchises are incredibly passé and you are guaranteed to lose a lot of business due to this extremely misguided decision. I understand you may feel it will have little to no impact as you have a captive audience in the office workers nearby but there is much to be said about word-of-mouth and without a doubt the other businesses in Scotia Square will suffer as a result of reduced traffic from other demographics.

I would wish you all the best of luck, but you don't deserve it after crushing the livelihood of your tenants.

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Posted by lunar_eclipse on 01/31/2014 at 10:14 PM

Re: “Bagel Montreal Style is now open in Dartmouth

As a recently-transplanted-in-Halifax Montrealer, those wood smoke complaints in Montreal are 100% the result of the gentrification of the Plateau, Mile End, and now the Mile Ex area. For the last 10-15 years, those neighbourhoods have slowly been filling up with yuppies who want to live in the cool parts of the city, but then immediately start objecting to everything about the neighbourhoods they've moved into.

There are no "horrific air quality problems" caused by St-Viateur or Fairmont bagels. All the wood burning restaurants/bakeries in Montreal combined release less than 10% of the particulates and pollution as suburban commuters do when they're driving into the city everyday. One bagel shop in Dartmouth isn't even going to make a measurable impact on the pollution produced by Halifax's lazy, self-indulgent sprawl.

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Posted by Lauchlin on 08/02/2017 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Here's an idea: Visit every other business in the mall and tell them how sad you are about this, and that you'll probably never be back to Scotia Square. It's one thing for the Crombie zombies to hear it from the two affected businesses and their customers, but maybe if ALL of the OTHER businesses express concern these idiots will think twice about the actual business impacts.

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Posted by JohnvG on 02/01/2014 at 8:16 AM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Email sent too:

Hello,

I am writing about Halifax's Scotia Square food court and the recent news that Ray's and A Taste of India are being forced out of their locations. I normally don't write to complain about things like this but let me assure you I am nothing short of outraged and disgusted at the way Crombie is treating these small mainstays of the local economy and in fact whether you believe it or not, anchor tenants of the food court.

This has got to be one of the most disgusting displays of greedy cold hearted decision-making I've seen in this region in a long time. Keep in mind I'm an experienced business person and I've seen my fair share of tough dealing. I'm not a kid on the street with little experience.

Again, what a terrible, rotten decision by Crombie. I urge you to reverse it and allow Ray's and A Taste of India to stay where they are. I can further assure you that if they lose their leases in the food court that will be the last penny I'll ever spend in Scotia Square.

I'm not alone in this outrage.

Sincerely,
John van Gurp
Halifax

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Posted by JohnvG on 01/31/2014 at 5:17 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

He should get a food truck, park it outside SS every day and feed his loyal customers. Boo Scotia Square!

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Posted by gbell on 02/01/2014 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Ray, to hell with Scotia Square and Crombie. Go open your shop somewhere else and people will go there. I know I will. Your food is top-notch.

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Posted by Hackenflak on 01/31/2014 at 7:46 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

congratulations, scotia square. now i have absolutely no reason to ever go there again. fuck you very much.

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Posted by downtownleroybrown on 01/31/2014 at 6:30 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Sad news, but a few contrarian points to balance out the boiling hysteria, just for fun:

- First off, I love Ray’s, Taste of India, Korea Garden, Kebab Kitchen, etc. – mostly fantastic proprietors and staff and great food. The food court itself is a grim and foully institutional space that resembles a feeding pen; contrary to Bousquet’s characterization, it would only be “the best in the country” if you'd eaten lunch in a file storage area for years. It is awful and beige and is now totally bereft of natural light: if you want to rage against anything, rage against that. “Greed” may be defined here as “requiring capital to make the space look less 1997 and more functional,” in which case I guess it's greed.

- If a sampling of people outraged about this decision on social media represented actual local buying patterns, none of this would be happening, and Ray would be expanding instead of leaving. Ray obviously has a very loyal customer base, but only a handful of people (the odd call centre clerk, NSCAD student, etc.) stop by after 3pm. The McDonald’s that has been open for one month has a lineup three or four deep until 7pm nightly. The summer will see a flood of tourists from adjacent hotels who do not trust anything they haven't seen before. Scotia Square is not the Hydrostone or Kensington Market. These are all facts, given the location and demographics in the area. There is business sense to making the food court more mass-market.

- Ray is obviously a savvy businessman. If he is not interested in retirement, he will inevitably find a new place in downtown Halifax, no more or less distant for 90% of his regular customers. If the groundswell of support he enjoys is legitimate and translates into actual purchases (and not just Facebook nostalgia for The Way It Used To Be), he will do just fine for years to come, and no one will in fact miss out on his falafels, which are indeed delicious.

It sucked when the Battered Fish closed in December for the same reason, but they’re similarly moving onward and upward, because they have a business model that isn’t dysfunctional and because people like their product.

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Posted by Orkut on 01/31/2014 at 7:50 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Bad business decision Crombie! I'm not going to pay for parking to eat at a big franchise eating place, I can get that for free elsewhere. Have you not realised that people are moving away from fast food? Did you do any marketing, segmenting or did you go for just the quick money grab? Don't bother answering, it is rhetorical. I for one will never eat at SS or park at SS. The mall is pretty sadly populated already except for Ray's and TOI, now prepare for nothing.

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Posted by Cappies_rock on 01/31/2014 at 10:47 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

For all the fans of Ray's and Taste of India out there, make sure to show your support for them until their last day at Scotia Square. I happen to have meetings at SS twice next week, and I'm planning to stop by both shops! I'm very sorry to learn that they've been forced out, but I'm not surprised - Crombie does this to businesses all over the place, even medical clinics. Remember: Crombie = Sobeys! Express your disgust with these twits whenever you can, including avoiding Sobeys if possible. Crombie is doing its usual thing... but that doesn't mean it's the right thing.

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Posted by 2cents on 01/31/2014 at 10:08 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

As a metro transit bus driver we send a few hundred drivers through that food court every week, being a bus terminal, our company has been trying to promote healthy life styles, having places like Ray's and "A Taste of India" removed for other fast food style food places is just wrong in this day and age, Crombie you should really take a hard look at where these customers are coming from to have lunch and healthy meals, Purdy's towers, duke towers, banks and other professional white collar jobs, it's not Walmart down on Barrington st, come-on, USE YOUR HEALTHY HEADS on these decisions

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Posted by Ron Lee on 02/01/2014 at 10:01 AM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Rays is one of my favorite places to eat. Not only is the food delicious and its actually healthy but Ray knows your name and the name of your kids and what you order every time you come.That is terrible to close them after 31 years for another franchise!!!! Ray Please move elsewhere as I know everyone who has ever tried your food will follow you.

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Posted by Lee Merrigan Thomas on 01/31/2014 at 9:50 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

If you think Scotia Square has the best food court in the country, you need to travel more.

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Posted by CrOF on 02/01/2014 at 2:15 AM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

So shortsighted! Many of us are making a concerted effort to buy local. Why would we eat at Scotia Square if all we have to choose from are bland franchises?

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Posted by KWatson on 01/31/2014 at 4:10 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

Subway sucks. Fresh ingredients my ass. Precut lettuce in bags and frozen onion slices are not fresh.

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Posted by sodeypop on 01/31/2014 at 8:08 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

This is outrageous. Ray's Lebanese serves the best food in town. I first met Ray when I was a NSCAD student on a tight budget in the mid-90s. NSCAD students could get a delicious chicken/potato/veggie salad wrap on pita for $2 (taxes in). He's a wonderful man who cooks fabulous food. No one else in the city makes lentils and rice taste so good. I hope he finds a new location.

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Posted by Karla J Hatt on 01/31/2014 at 4:24 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

I go specifically to the Scotia Square food court to get A Taste of India food. I liked that Scotia Square had a food court with interesting ethnic food options! Very upset!

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Posted by Alyson N O'Neil on 01/31/2014 at 4:18 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

I get Ray's every day for lunch. Medium chicken pita w/ saurkraut, rice/lentils and tomato. Best you can get for $5.75. Subway can't compete with that. They're formed-chicken footlong pretty much costs 10$.

I won't be going to Scotia Square any longer and I likely won't be the only one exercising my consumer's rights.

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Posted by bah_humbug_winter_parking_ban on 01/31/2014 at 8:40 PM

Re: “Ray's Lebanese Food and A Taste of India are being evicted from Scotia Square

No joke, I am on the verge of tears...eff you corporate a**holes!
My husband and I eat at Taste of India or Rays at least twice weekly, my daughter and son in law, even more so. A friend of ours that moved to Toronto says that what he misses most about Halifax is "Taste of India"
It is, hands down, the best food in the city.
Thanks for evicting amazing, popular, LOCAL businesses and replacing them with GARBAGE!

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Posted by jonnsgirl on 01/31/2014 at 5:29 PM

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