After a few beers, is the only way to erect a tent after dark in driving wind and rain.
@ Hoist: I hear ya--Oi punk is def the best...and now you've made me want beer n punk to go with my post-midnight 'snack' lol:P.....incidentally, storms also make me want beer...and celtic music--I think it comes from erecting my tent in darkness, rain and high winds at the Stan Rogers Music Fest for so many years...usually after so many beers;D
Just having a little post-midnight snack and saw your comment Hoist--I hadn't noticed that about 'snack' before, but now I have the giggles again--cheese whiz, you're a funny guy;D
halifax resident - If Halifax stevedores/tugs/pilots go on strike the ships drop the cargo in the US. If US East coast stevedores/tugs/pilots strike the ships drop cargo in Canada.
Draw a great circle route from the western approaches to the English channel to Long Island
and see how close it passes Halifax. Containers from Halifax to Toronto take over 24 hours and a ship opting for NY rather than Halifax adds less than 30 hours. The ship is going to the US as part of its regular route. It will be very difficult for Halifax to be a much larger port, the savings are not obvious but having the port as a competitor to US east coast ports is an advantage to the shipping companies.
We are not Rotterdam and we are not Singapore.
We are backup.
Bro Tim. Read the entire post, not just the first few sentences and then check out the links I provided. You can agree/disagree with them if you like (I'm sure MM will find several things that are 'incoherent' to disagree with and will ask for more clarification on most of it anyway) but at least check them out.
I never mistook weather for climate. Climate DOES have an impact on the weather, however. As the global climates changes, weather patterns will shift. DRASTICALLY. They will (are) also become more extreme. If you haven't clued in by now, to any of the hundred things that have happened in the last decade, with regard to extreme weather, then my referencing them will do little good. And you'll just say something like "weather's always been crazy. Damn crazy weather." And yes, it has. But we can SEE it getting worse across the board and we can SEE the frequency of mega-storms increasing.
I am aware that tornado's and hurricanes have existed for a while. My point is that the evidence (provided in link number one) suggests that, in recent years, they have been happening more frequently and with greater force.
I'm not trying to come off as an asshole here. Sometimes I agree with the things you say Bro Tim but usually we stand on different sides of whatever topic is being discussed. Which is fine and dandy.
But people need to realize that this shit is going on for real, it's not a hoax - even if Al Gore is profiting from it. Even MM acknowledges that the climate is changing, he just doesn't think humans have anything to do with it, from what I gather. Which is actually, even more scary.
I hope you guys realize that you're trying to reason with someone who thinks that Charles Darwin discovered the Galapagos Islands.
pg - forget the cubit (45.72cm)...How long can you tread water?
It's coming home to roost over the next 50 years or so. It's not just climate change; it's sheer space, places to grow food for this enormous horde. Either we limit our population growth or the natural world will do it for us, and the natural world is doing it for us right now. - David Attenborough
PG, a cubit is approximately 18 inches.
Hoist as the Chief of the Weather Bureau said on the radio today, don't be confusing weather with climate and the climate change has nothing to do with these types of storms and tornadoes. The reason it got play is that it landed near a populous area and there are usually a few of these large tornadoes every year but most times they happen away from civilization and ergo no news play.
I never thought of the Pogues as punk..... I was cool but didn't know it.
Just what I want when I go to a park. Somebody trying to sell me something topped off with a way to cancel out any health benefits I might have gained by park visiting. Wait! Isn't that a mall?
Very nice, She sang. Oi punk is my favorite form of punk. Pogues, Dropkick, Lower Class Brats. They all make me want beer. :P
Much appreciated she sang and LOL at your tuna giggles. I've always thought 'snack' was a funny word. Speaking of snack, this thread's making me hungry. Ricotta go make some supper.
That's really cool Hoist--I am totally down with the political musical interests in JH--here's a fave of mine from about grade nine, also semi-relevant to the discussion, I believe, AND for your listening pleasure:
...and yeah, I am finding comments from both yourself and Tartan really interesting...Reg's and Cap's as well--you guys seem to have the inside scoop from more than just an "IMO" perspective:)
MM, assuming that global warming skeptics are correct, how do you account for such weather phenomena as Katrina, Sandy, or these other massive atmospheric storms such as tornado's and wild fires which seem to obliterate entire towns and even debilitate major cities?
There is evidence, as posted below (1), that they are actually increasing in frequency and strength. There is also evidence that a direct link can be made between the changing climate and these catastrophes.
Your question, I think, is not "Is the climate changing" but rather "Why is the climate changing and are humans responsible?" Which you have concluded to some degree that 'yes it is' and 'no we're not'. Is this a correct assumption?
I believe that, based on common sense alone, one could at least reason that we are helping climate change accelerate, if not acting as its primary cause.
It has been documented that cities, particularly larger ones, maintain a higher temperature than their surrounding countryside. This phenomena is known as a "Heat Island". Not only are the cities warmer than the countryside but their temperatures continue to increase almost annually.
Look at these smog cloud that loom over cities such as Beijing and LA, for example. Using these hotspots as a microcosm, we can actually determine that, not only is heat being trapped beneath the pollutants in these cities, but we can even measure how much. (2)
Is it that much of a stretch of the imagination to conclude that, if these cities are becoming hotter under the direct smog that they produce, the rest of the world would not experience the same reaction on a larger scale, given enough time?
A pleasure as most of the time,
what's a cubit?
That's it, you've convinced me. If I'm not around much, it means I'll be in the back yard building my ark.
I guess sometimes that's just how it asiagos;P
:) Thanks she sang, I thought the lyrics were semi relevant to the discussion. I remember rocking out to them when I was in grade 7
What Tartan said.
Thanks, also, for the chat MM. I shouldn't have started something I didn't intend to follow up on with that discussion. In my defense I was still a wee bit tipsy when I woke up the morning of my original comment.
he's sneering, are you guys on skype?
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